Nation Wars = Unbalanced

Savor - Lost City
Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
edited February 2013 in Nation Wars
Today I think Light Nation on Lost City server finally broke Nation Wars as I believe we won by about 250 credit count and everytime I entered a war for Light for the first hour we had 2 squads of 3rd cast rank 9s.

Needless to say it wasn't pretty. Someone is going to post the credit count screenshot in a moment. This shouldn't be able to happen the balancing system needs fixed lol.

Yes I was in the OP nation and I'm saying it wasn't fair; it was like Nation Wars abuse, was about as fun as going into Secret Passage and pking lvl 20s.
My main was Susamajii The Lost City Barbarian.
Post edited by Savor - Lost City on

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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Derp/10char
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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    Derp/10char

    This isn't the final but I think Light Nation had 419 a few people pmed me after XD.
    My main was Susamajii The Lost City Barbarian.
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Savor - Lost City wrote: »
    This isn't the final but I think Light Nation had 419 a few people pmed me after XD.

    That is the final.
    I took it right after getting my token award message.
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  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    Derp/10char

    How much did you get O_O
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  • Shardik - Lost City
    Shardik - Lost City Posts: 625 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Dunno, i saw 370 at the end :O

    b:chuckle I could be wrong as well tho..


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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    That is the final.
    I took it right after getting my token award message.

    Ah well either way we broke 400.. that's ridiculous I think former record was like 320 or somethin maybe 350
    My main was Susamajii The Lost City Barbarian.
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I got 340 tokens
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  • Savor - Lost City
    Savor - Lost City Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »
    How much did you get O_O

    429 Tokens
    My main was Susamajii The Lost City Barbarian.
  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    This happened twice in a row in DW a month ago. Now lights get ****ed in the butt hard every NW.
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  • aluvitar
    aluvitar Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I agree, this NW was so unbalanced it really was just no fun, winning nation or not.
  • Flamespirit - Dreamweaver
    Flamespirit - Dreamweaver Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Wow aparently your server is alot less populated than dreamweaver. Thats some mighty small numbers attending.
  • Clayne - Lost City
    Clayne - Lost City Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Flamespirit - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Wow aparently your server is alot less populated than dreamweaver. Thats some mighty small numbers attending.

    LoL.... of course not...
    he took this picture after he got the final token reward message b:sweat b:sweat
    so most people have already left the NW map LoL b:chuckleb:chuckle
  • Ois - Lost City
    Ois - Lost City Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    This is a very good example of why squads should not be allowed prior to entering NW. Allowing OPd people to squad up really ruins the idea of a nation war in my opinion. What is the point of assigning random nations at all if you allow people to choose who they go in with?

    Side note...I was in Frost...12k contribution...50 tokens...

    ...on friday I was in Dark...12k contribution...60 tokens...


    It's very frustrating to be in the nations that don't get r9r squads. Even more frustrating though is the way that tokens are assigned. If PWI wants to allow OP squads to enter NW together they should at least make tokens more personal contribution based than nation based. I am very annoyed to see people with far less contribution than me get 4x as many tokens. b:surrender
  • aluvitar
    aluvitar Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The problem is guilds like CT cheating the system to get all of their powerful members in the same nation... PWI knows about the way around the randomness yet does nothing about it so it's going to continue happening.
  • Ois - Lost City
    Ois - Lost City Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    aluvitar wrote: »
    The problem is guilds like CT cheating the system to get all of their powerful members in the same nation... PWI knows about the way around the randomness yet does nothing about it so it's going to continue happening.

    I'm in CT and I was in the losing nation. It is true that players squad up with people within their guild but they have no control over what nation each squad gets put into.

    PWI just has a fail randomizer that must be only based on distributing players based on quantity instead of quality. Example: soulfource, lvl, etc.
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    aluvitar wrote: »
    The problem is guilds like CT cheating the system to get all of their powerful members in the same nation... PWI knows about the way around the randomness yet does nothing about it so it's going to continue happening.

    There is no cheat that prevents randomness. The way around you refer to which is removing gear before entering creates more randomness and allows the possibility of extremely imbalanced nations. It doesn't guarantee anything at all.
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  • aluvitar
    aluvitar Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    There is no cheat that prevents randomness. The way around you refer to which is removing gear before entering creates more randomness and allows the possibility of extremely imbalanced nations. It doesn't guarantee anything at all.

    That is not the work around I am referring to.
  • rob069
    rob069 Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I agree is a abuse system. GM should make it Sqaud inside NW not out side that will split up the OPs
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    rob069 wrote: »
    I agree is a abuse system. GM should make it Sqaud inside NW not out side that will split up the OPs

    This is what many people have been saying... City of Abominations already has this same aspect / programming to it... so it can definitely be applied to nw... And yes, "OP' geareds can still squad up inside nw that way... but, there wouldnt be as much baselocking (which has been happening to even more of an extreme recently), if pw made

    1. nw no squad till inside AND

    2. move bases away from map wall to create more territories around base.

    That would greatly reduce the bs in nw b:lipcurl
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This happened twice in a row in DW a month ago. Now lights get ****ed in the butt hard every NW.

    I like how people hold grudges against nations as if which nation people were in mattered.
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    OP squads decide the fate of each NW. Lets say there are 4 well known OP squads from all guilds on one server. They comunicate among themselves and decide where they go.

    Lets say Squad A and B end up in frost while Squad C and D end up in light. They decide where to go and...

    The ones in frost lock dark nation and the ones in light lock flame nations.

    Coordination of OP squads locking the nations end up in deciding the outcome of each NW session.
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • BluePassion - Lost City
    BluePassion - Lost City Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    I like how people hold grudges against nations as if which nation people were in mattered.

    ^This
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  • Gyurakzoltan - Archosaur
    Gyurakzoltan - Archosaur Posts: 683 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I just dont know why PWI makes something if they cannot balance it...every damn time in a favking loosing nation..EVERY TIME ! today flame had 85 point---and no its not couse the ppl...its couse unbalanced ****, couse pwi cannot make balance, if u cannot make balance dont make any new stuff...why are rrr9 ppl better then the rest? pwu giving them plenty of tokens and the rest can **** themself...why? no response...ppl qqing from the beggining, noone doing anything bout it why? UNBALANCED NW...at least give ppl sometime to be on wining nation...**** it...damn b:angryb:shocked BULL****
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  • PatsyBanger - Archosaur
    PatsyBanger - Archosaur Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    These Nation Wars are so one sided it is silly. They say that it will be random yet i see all the r9s going to one team and seemingly a bunch of level 80's on the other. If you was paying 6m for a charm and you're not r9 it is my advice to avoid the quest all together. You can still get your gear and better gear even with lunar.
  • soundslegit
    soundslegit Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Gyurakzoltan - Archosaur wrote: »
    I just dont know why PWI makes something if they cannot balance it...every damn time in a favking loosing nation..EVERY TIME ! today flame had 85 point---and no its not couse the ppl...its couse unbalanced ****, couse pwi cannot make balance, if u cannot make balance dont make any new stuff...why are rrr9 ppl better then the rest? pwu giving them plenty of tokens and the rest can **** themself...why? no response...ppl qqing from the beggining, noone doing anything bout it why? UNBALANCED NW...at least give ppl sometime to be on wining nation...**** it...damn b:angryb:shocked BULL****

    A lot of my fac mates were in Flame today and when they saw how bad flame was doing early they quit. I think thats the real reason Flame turned into a lolfest. Some people can't deal with adversity. Doesn't help that rap prices are so low on our server that if your not in the top two nations your not going to be making any big money.
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