This Game Leads to a dead end
Ganden - Sanctuary
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SO it has come to my attention, that when you reach end game what is there left to do?
Lets say you reached lv105, you spent thousands of US dollars or billions of in game coins to get your r9 gear. And you have it at third cast +12 and fully shards.
What do we do now?
Some say PK
others say help low lvls
and a few saying uninstall and start all over.
but what im trying to come across is... will there be new content in the future? i feel like this game reaches a dead end.
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Lets say you reached lv105, you spent thousands of US dollars or billions of in game coins to get your r9 gear. And you have it at third cast +12 and fully shards.
What do we do now?
Some say PK
others say help low lvls
and a few saying uninstall and start all over.
but what im trying to come across is... will there be new content in the future? i feel like this game reaches a dead end.
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Kinda like when you scan AH and you see level 130 weps
No but really.. make **** tons of alts and make them op too?0 -
There's always new contents, maybe not each week, but there's always new stuff, new gears, skills (Morai), NW is new, maybe in the future new instance.
I don't know if you are a old player, but remember that back in time TT99 was considerate as end game, than R8, than R9, than Nirvan 3rd recast and R999.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Well yes you would get bored fairly quickly using that method.
However it's the nature of an MMO that there will always be something new that's stronger than the current as time goes on. Four years ago, a set of TT90 gold gear refined to +5 and fully sharded with immaculate shards was considered the realm of fantasy and that if that were ever achieved the person who did so would have nothing left to achieve ingame.
Nowadays? That's considered low-class gear for 1-shots.
Four years ago getting an entire faction together to take on Harpy Wraith was considered the ultimate endgame challenge that we wouldn't be able to achieve for who-knows-how-long and that if you could do that there would no longer be anything in PvE that could possibly challenge you.
Nowadays? Harpy is regularly solo'd as soon as she respawns on every server.
So, in essence, if you get to the current endgame via whatever means and are super bored, just play on an alt or the like until the next new thing comes around that leaves people wondering how to make it through with it.
Or maybe try to get your faction to do trials and attempt to solo the final trial boss. That should give you some challenge. b:chuckle(Insert fancy image here)
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Well yes you would get bored fairly quickly using that method.
However it's the nature of an MMO that there will always be something new that's stronger than the current as time goes on. Four years ago, a set of TT90 gold gear refined to +5 and fully sharded with immaculate shards was considered the realm of fantasy and that if that were ever achieved the person who did so would have nothing left to achieve ingame.
Nowadays? That's considered low-class gear for 1-shots.
Four years ago getting an entire faction together to take on Harpy Wraith was considered the ultimate endgame challenge that we wouldn't be able to achieve for who-knows-how-long and that if you could do that there would no longer be anything in PvE that could possibly challenge you.
Nowadays? Harpy is regularly solo'd as soon as she respawns on every server.
So, in essence, if you get to the current endgame via whatever means and are super bored, just play on an alt or the like until the next new thing comes around that leaves people wondering how to make it through with it.
Or maybe try to get your faction to do trials and attempt to solo the final trial boss. That should give you some challenge. b:chuckle
wow i never thought of it this way, you are right. but i still feel like there is lack of content0 -
me? well im never bored as long as i have great friends to mess around with b:laugh make alts and wiat till the next new thing0
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Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »wow i never thought of it this way, you are right. but i still feel like there is lack of content compared to the game "oh boy"
Uh oh, I don't think you're allowed mentioning stuff like that. b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Screenshot thread:
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However it's the nature of an MMO that there will always be something new that's stronger than the current as time goes on.
That is only true of game that have developpers with poor imagination.
Some games do very well without this arm race philosophy.
PWI introduces better weapons and armors to milk some more money from the players.Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."
(We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)0 -
Biggest issue is that you've hit current end game, you're never going to get a challenge again.
Because any new end game content is not going to be geared solely towards full R9 3rd cast +12 characters. So even when the new gear ups come, you're going to roll through it faster than the other characters, finish the new gear first, and max it before anyone else. And then be in the same boat.
So max your character here, then go to -removed- I guess. Once you max, there's no getting the good old days back.0 -
That's why I level slow. More fun goofing off a little with friends and slowly earning the armor then just hitting end game quickly. Once you get there, there is nothing to do but pk.
If you get bored, start another character or go to another game. That's your only option until something else is added. Even then, you will get bored with the new content quickly.[SIGPIC]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/kitsunekatie/guild stuff/allcharsig1-1.jpg [/SIGPIC]
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That is only true of game that have developpers with poor imagination.
Some games do very well without this arm race philosophy.
PWI introduces better weapons and armors to milk some more money from the players.
Even with other genres that's the case at times even if it shows up in a different form.
RTS games, for example, may not have any "new" units or buildings or the like but instead keep having strategies and tactics change around due to a constantly evolving metagame. The strategy that's high-end seemingly unbeatable and manages to crush everyone one day will end up being that "boring easily countered thing nobody even uses anymore" a few weeks or months down the line.
Some MMOs do it by a class rock-paper-scissors approach and various tweaks and nerfs that wind up with most players flocking to "current OP class X" until some guy discovers "overlooked class Y that hard counters X" and suddenly everyone flocks to it until the counter for that in another class is found and so on and so forth as well.
There's almost always an arms race in some form because players in general nowadays try to find the strongest most broken thing they can abuse and will jump on it until it becomes something people know to counter easily at which point they'll move to the next one. In PWI, it's just that there's a very linear scale of gear and the like where instead of having set benefits and drawbacks, it's a case of a certain set of gear having an obvious advantage against anyone who doesn't have vastly more skill than you and refines/shards amplifying that effect because it's all linear. If we had more gears and functionality that gave large pros but also had cons and they had been around from the start, the game would probably be a lot different than it is now.
tl;dr: I disagree. Here's a wall of text explaining why.(Insert fancy image here)0 -
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Fonyan - Heavens Tear wrote: »Uh oh, I don't think you're allowed mentioning stuff like that. b:cute
LMAO cause they scared we might realize its cash scam and swicth to another game hahahahaha, and that is why i can not mention other games0 -
I don't know of anyone on my server that has all their NW upgraded gear aswell as full rrr9 +12 [insert endgame shards here] , it's expensive and a long road to endgame, and once your there, you would either just play it for PK/TW/NW or start an alt or start on another server, I guess.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tide_Surfer: "I feel SPESHALL *says like a lil kid*"
Veneir: "Seashell?
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Tide_Surfer: "Yes Veny, yes. A speshall seashell."0 -
Even with other genres that's the case at times even if it shows up in a different form.
RTS games, for example, may not have any "new" units or buildings or the like but instead keep having strategies and tactics change around due to a constantly evolving metagame. The strategy that's high-end seemingly unbeatable and manages to crush everyone one day will end up being that "boring easily countered thing nobody even uses anymore" a few weeks or months down the line.
Some MMOs do it by a class rock-paper-scissors approach and various tweaks and nerfs that wind up with most players flocking to "current OP class X" until some guy discovers "overlooked class Y that hard counters X" and suddenly everyone flocks to it until the counter for that in another class is found and so on and so forth as well.
There's almost always an arms race in some form because players in general nowadays try to find the strongest most broken thing they can abuse and will jump on it until it becomes something people know to counter easily at which point they'll move to the next one. In PWI, it's just that there's a very linear scale of gear and the like where instead of having set benefits and drawbacks, it's a case of a certain set of gear having an obvious advantage against anyone who doesn't have vastly more skill than you and refines/shards amplifying that effect because it's all linear. If we had more gears and functionality that gave large pros but also had cons and they had been around from the start, the game would probably be a lot different than it is now.
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Well i see where you are coming from considering PWI has had quite a few expansions. Even with the expansions there is a notable lack of imagination in them.
Its possible for them to add a few things that mixes things up a bit. Like i could come up with something off the top of my head..
for example. something with factions could be added like instead of paying for the base it could be material made. and the faction has to kill mobs/ gather mats to make the base. And non of these mats can be brought from Botique. i know its lame idea buts just throwing it out there hahahaTide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »I don't know of anyone on my server that has all their NW upgraded gear aswell as full rrr9 +12 [insert endgame shards here] , it's expensive and a long road to endgame, and once your there, you would either just play it for PK/TW/NW or start an alt or start on another server, I guess.
wow really? My server is flocking with them left and right!!!0 -
Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »wow really? My server is flocking with them left and right!!!
Are you sure they have the upgraded cube neck, upgraded rings and upgraded gear?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tide_Surfer: "I feel SPESHALL *says like a lil kid*"
Veneir: "Seashell?"
Tide_Surfer: "Yes Veny, yes. A speshall seashell."0 -
Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »Are you sure they have the upgraded cube neck, upgraded rings and upgraded gear?
Yes i am saying that, there are even people with Full +12 r9r 3 gear and fully sharded. Its crazy, you must log on sometime and just walk around west archo. there are even people with the upgraded tome as well
In my server is normal to see a person with full r9r3 and +12 with full JOSD gems... >.>0 -
This game has been around for what 8 years now, every year people complain about no endgame, yet thousands still play. Every year for a few years now there has been some type of new content for new endgame gear / amusement. This game is doing better then some of the newer games that recently came out.0
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Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »Yes i am saying that, there are even people with Full +12 r9r 3 gear and fully sharded. Its crazy, you must log on sometime and just walk around west archo. there are even people with the upgraded tome as well
In my server is normal to see a person with full r9r3 and +12 with full JOSD gems... >.>
With the ring, cape and tome upgrade? My server must be **** no one have all of that, some have the ring or tome, but not the rest.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Digitalbleh - Sanctuary wrote: »This game has been around for what 8 years now, every year people complain about no endgame, yet thousands still play. Every year for a few years now there has been some type of new content for new endgame gear / amusement. This game is doing better then some of the newer games that recently came out.
I wouldn't say doing better than some of the games that recently came out... i could name a few that are wayy better.. Perfect world is probably the best F2P client i would admit. but definitively not the best out. Although some great games are switching F2p this year so keep a look out.
As in making money, they doing a hell of a great job doing that
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »With the ring, cape and tome upgrade? My server must be **** no one have all of that, some have the ring or tome, but not the rest.
yes, i just have server full of people willing to blow 1,000-3,000 on a game to have the best gear. lmao0 -
Wow, another one who recognized that a game is limited and can't replace rl...
Maybe get a gf?
Maybe go outside?
Maybe get other hobbies in addition?
Or maybe play another game in addition?
Or maybe just stop playing this game when it doesn't entertain you anymore??
What do you expect? A 24h babysitter? I have another surprise for you: everything that exists leads to a dead end. And you won't be able to respawn.0 -
Wow, another one who recognized that a game is limited and can't replace rl...
Maybe get a gf?
Maybe go outside?
Maybe get other hobbies in addition?
Or maybe play another game in addition?
Or maybe just stop playing this game when it doesn't entertain you anymore??
What do you expect? A 24h babysitter? I have another surprise for you: everything that exists leads to a dead end. And you won't be able to respawn.
Dont we have a smart alec over here.... Hey this thread was not ment for rude remarks, this is a discussion thread and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.0 -
Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »Dont we have a smart azz over here.... Hey this thread was not ment for rude remarks, this is a discussion thread and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Not sure if that irony is intentional or not0 -
MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »Not sure if that irony is intentional or not
And this thread has gotten off topic... now back to what we were discussing..
So yes perfect world has been bringing updates over the years which have improved game play, and i do hope for better updates in the future to prevent the game from becoming dull.0 -
Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »And this thread has gotten off topic... now back to what we were discussing..
So yes perfect world has been bringing updates over the years which have improved game play, and i do hope for better updates in the future to prevent the game from becoming dull.
I kinda liked how it was before rep/rank so it's debatable whether or not the gameplay has improved.
However, had they not added new content, I probably never would have come back to check out the state of the game.0 -
Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »yes, i just have server full of people willing to blow 1,000-3,000 on a game to have the best gear. lmao
The whole game is full of people willing to spend $10,000's on this game, some people on my sever have spent over $30,000 on this game[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tide_Surfer: "I feel SPESHALL *says like a lil kid*"
Veneir: "Seashell?"
Tide_Surfer: "Yes Veny, yes. A speshall seashell."0 -
yub if pwi developer stay in this line they will send game to DEAD game , and its look they dont care about pwi front other pwi company games because look at other pwi games " great graphics , super game play , and no ppl QQ at form " .
so i think end of pwi will be soon b:bye so dont surprise if one day pwi tell to us " we want close now thanks everyone for play pwi ,,, you can take look to our other game ,,,b:laugh "0 -
Metsomi - Sanctuary wrote: »yub if pwi developer stay in this line they will send game to DEAD game , and its look they dont care about pwi front other pwi company games because look at other pwi games " great graphics , super game play , and no ppl QQ at form " .
so i think end of pwi will be soon b:bye so dont surprise if one day pwi tell to us " we want close now thanks everyone for play pwi ,,, you can take look to our other game ,,,b:laugh "
They have already stated that PWI is generating a lot of money, there are cash shoppers everywhere, in my opinion, they won't be closing any time soon.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tide_Surfer: "I feel SPESHALL *says like a lil kid*"
Veneir: "Seashell?"
Tide_Surfer: "Yes Veny, yes. A speshall seashell."0 -
MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »I kinda liked how it was before rep/rank so it's debatable whether or not the gameplay has improved.
However, had they not added new content, I probably never would have come back to check out the state of the game.
I feel the same way, i had quit the game for about 4 months before the recent update was released (New skills, New gear) so i came back and gave it a try. Much to say that the new content last me another month and it was back to being bored.
They just need something that can keep the game flowing, some type of system that will never get boring. It's possible to make, many games have been successful in doing this.
For example maybe a PK arena for lvl ranges, like 55-60, 61-75, 76-80. that you could enter every hour. See how easy it is to come up with new ideas to make the game more interesting?
The problem is their mind set is based on MONEY, not IMAGINATION.0 -
Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »I feel the same way, i had quit the game for about 4 months before the recent update was released (New skills, New gear) so i came back and gave it a try. Much to say that the new content last me another month and it was back to being bored.
They just need something that can keep the game flowing, some type of system that will never get boring. It's possible to make, many games have been successful in doing this.
For example maybe a PK arena for lvl ranges, like 55-60, 61-75, 76-80. that you could enter every hour. See how easy it is to come up with new ideas to make the game more interesting?
The problem is their mind set is based on MONEY, not IMAGINATION.
Well obviously it's based on money, it's a business like any other.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tide_Surfer: "I feel SPESHALL *says like a lil kid*"
Veneir: "Seashell?"
Tide_Surfer: "Yes Veny, yes. A speshall seashell."0
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