Which is the more Defensive Caster

What do you mean by defensive skills?

Mystic is good for heals and protecting itself, but a wizard is good for avoiding damage in the first place, elemental damage anyway.

It depends.

Over-all wizard wins easy. No just because of p.def, but because of their skills and the purify proc.

As long as melee are dumb enough to chase a wizzie who distance shrinks or purify procs, they will have better survivability over a mystic. Simply because the attackers will chase in a line; which perfectly sets them up for the Phoenix shot. Wizzies can use their offense as a defense bolster when they get easy shots with all their attackers lined up like that. Add in a stunning area effect AoE, and the mystic ability to tank other mystics or veno kinda sucks; especially since venos would purge anyways.

Most of the people claiming mystic over wizzie are pve healers anyways. That should be a good measuring stick for what their opinion is worth.

klys wrote: »

uh, mystics have more control skills and have heals soooooo ..yea

wiz have heals! b:angry

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »

I do have to say wizzies, they do have extra fire/water/earth/physical defence.

Not in the same time. While Mystic have the p.def, water and wood without sacrifice the other.

They both play defensively but in different ways.

There is absolutely no question that a mystic can tank far far more damage than a wiz, assuming equal gears.

A wizard, on the other hand, has a better ability to avoid taking the damage in the first place, if they use their ports.

Now, if I'm fighting a wizard, I get up nice and close, then immobilize them before beginning my attack. Porting won't get them out of my attack range, though it does get them out of range of a couple of my low-range skills like sirens kiss, and my aoe healing debuff.

A mystic, on the other hand, is much more difficult for me to kill. While they won't be porting away, they can instantly heal almost their full hp bar (I am assuming gear like to my own). Renders my healing debuffs almost useless... only way for me to kill a mystic is to get a successful seal on elven boon when their charm is ticked near half hp, then a crit on the skill that follows. Preferably the elven boon should crit as well. If I don't get that to work, that mystic is not gonna die.

So, who is more defensive? From my perspective, the mystic. From a melee user's perspective, the wizard may be more difficult. Kiting damage, and tanking damage, are both defensive playstyles. There is no one right answer here I believe.

Cheers,

Aeliah

best defense is a powerful offense: wizard b:bye

Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »

best defense is a powerful offense: wizard b:bye

For dd: I'd much prefer mystic, veno, or cleric. People were saying in the first year of this game that the devs hate wiz's. They may have changed devs, but I think it still holds true. I have no clue why people think they're great offensively.

BanMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If y0u're asking which 0f the 2 is m0st effective defensively at end game, I w0uld say Mystic.

I would have to agree with this.

Sylvae - Sanctuary wrote: »

It depends.

Over-all wizard wins easy. No just because of p.def, but because of their skills and the purify proc.

R9 3rd Mystic's wand has purify proc too
yay for mystics b:victory

I've experienced pvp as a mystic, and even in my slightly sub-par gear get up I'm still pretty tough to kill.
I have not experienced pvp as a wiz, but vs. a wiz I find them easier to kill than mystics.
So my vote is for Mystic as the most defensive of the two classes.

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »

They both have their pro's and con's but imo, wizards come off on top

How exactly do wizards>psys if(example: +12 both)? Psy would be silencing and SoV'ing the wizard to death due to max SF...and your arcanes so you should more then be able to handle their magic hits, unless they nuked you with a Blade Tempest.

Wizz vs psy , run all Psys cd, , sutra pot, genie spark pyro and will of phe bye bye +12 psy...the seal is easy to evade.


Wizz is better, arcane def, demon leap, and way higher Pdef. So what if you get purged with +12 ornaments you'll have the same Pdef as a purged mystic (same gear). Then what do you do? Assuming you don't get chained crit by that broken class that pushes 70% crit by clicking quick shot you'll be fine if you move away or pop a pot to allow you to rebuff...rebuffed GG demon shell back in action.

It's my experience that mystics are slightly tankier than wizzies. The tankiness comes at a price: they must put almost everything into healing themselves. Once they go on offense, it's byebye mystic. A wiz on the other hand has some nice, mostly passive, defenses and can focus on attacking. Another thing to consider is wizzies are the only toon that can put every single elemental immunity on their genie (specifically earth immunity).