upgrading my dead pwi computer

Impsyyyyy - Archosaur wrote: »

is this graphics card any good for pwi? to play on high detial >NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670MX Graphics with 3GB GDDR5 graphics memory

It's overkill for PWI. the client hardly uses your GPU at all. You could play on a GTX460 and you wouldn't see a lick of difference on PWI vs the 670.

Other, newer games will look great though.

Impsyyyyy - Archosaur wrote: »

ok,

but if i went with this "gaming laptop the gtx670 with it could i still play pwi with it like that on high detail anyway?" or try to find one with the 460 windows 7 etc etc?

Sure you could play it on high detail. I play on high detail on an old 8800GT and that's 6 years old.
The only benefit to dropping the extra money into a "gaming system" is that you will be able to play new titles in high detail.

You've got to remember, the engine the client runs from was developed around, or before, 2004. Back then, the majority of home PC's didn't even have multi-core processors and a high-end video card had 32MB of RAM.
The client will only use one of your systems cores, and it does most of the graphic processing on the CPU, not the video card.

Basically, spend more money on a nice system that will be able to play other much newer games really well, or find something a few years old for cheap and play PWI just fine with full settings.

for example...
If all you cared about was playing PWI, or maybe other games not made after 2006, something like this would be just fine. You would be able to play them on high details for the most part with some fine-tuning of the OS to get rid of unnecessary CPU usage. (Personally, I would look for a model with 4GB of RAM. I was just using that one as an example. (That particular model can be upgraded to 4GB if you want though.))

If, however, you desire to play games released in the past few years, or play other new games released in the next couple of years, get the gaming system.

Between the two, I would recommend the Asus. The i3 processor in the Asus is going to run about twice as fast as the E-series in the HP. On top of that, the Intel HD 3000 series will equally run circles around the Radeon 6320.

Edit, you added a second Asus while I was responding and eating lunch. =P

I would avoid that third one as it only has a 13" screen. Sure it's got a bit more powerful of a CPU, and the GPU is slightly better, but that doesn't make up for the difference in price with a smaller screen. If the last one had the 15.6" screen, I'd say sure, it might be worth the extra $300, but it doesn't. When playing something like PWI, the last thing you want to skimp on is screen space.

Impsyyyyy - Archosaur wrote: »

ok,

and on the third i was thinking that'd be a bit to small for pwi lol because it fills up the screen so fast its like ugh...

ATM i have an emachines desktop and it drives me crazy because i have um kinda bad eyesight when i have my glasses off so i wanted to go with a laptop cause i had laptops most of pwi..


:update 11:53 am : sorry for the late reply here haha so the asus would be good for pwi....cause i was gunna go with my gmaing computer but thought and thought that if i was only gunna play pwi i dont need a 1300 laptop lolhttp://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-Black-17.3-GT70-0NC-494US-Laptop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i7-3630QM-Processor-and-Windows-8/21978028

Yeah, for just PWI, that's way overkill.
If you plan to regularly play things like Skyrim, A!on, W0W, or other games that heavily utilize the GPU, then go for it. (Those will run on the above Asus as well, just not as prettily.)
If you just want PWI, a few ok games, and browsing and stuff, then go with the earlier Asus.

hahaa ok the link in post 13 makes a lot more sense.

Well it makes more sense as far as the screen size goes.

Jumping back and forth, it's hard to say if it's worth it for the extra money though.
Let's have a look...

Spec_______$398 Asus______$668 Asus
CPU________i3 2.2GHz______i5 2.5GHz (3MB cache on both)
RAM________4GB DDR3_____4GB DDR3
HDD________320GB____.____500GB
VID_________HD 3000______HD 3000
OS_________W7HP_________W7Pro

The only real difference between the i3 and the i5 is that the i5 supports more hyprethreading and has the turbo-boost feature. If you plan to do a lot at once, the i5 is better, but for most applications, you won't see a huge difference between the i3 and the i5.

Both systems come with 4GB of ram so there's no difference there. The i5 system is upgradeable to 8GB for later expansion though.

No difference with the video cards on these, so the only real boost you'll get between the two is the technology in the i5 chip. Both screens are the same 1366x768 resolution. (16:9)

HDD space really depends on what you plan to do with it. My old laptop has a 120GB drive and I've only run short of space on it once, and that turned out to be something outside of the ordinary. If you live your life on your PC and have a lot of stuff and never throw anything out, you'll want a bigger hard drive. Alternatively though, Hard drives are relatively cheap, and if you later wanted to upgrade the crive space on the cleaper laptop or get a external drive, it's super easy.

The less expensive model has Home Premium, the more expensive one has Professional. I personally use Ultimate, but I'm a super-user, manage a large local network, and do a hell of a lot more than your average Joe. It's not a huge impact on the difference of cost, and if you wanted to upgrade later, it's relatively cheap as well. Home Premium will be fine for your efforts.

Conclusion:
Personally, for a little bit larger HD and a small boost in CPU performance, I'm not seeing it being worth the extra $260 for the i5. Sure you can add more RAM to it later and it comes with a bigger HD unit, but there isn't anything that really makes me say that the extra cost is worth it. It's just a newer model. The i3 and the i5 have the same number of Cores, the same size cache, and the backend of the system operations is all pretty much the same.
As I said previously, the only real benefit to the i5 processor is a very slight boost in CPU speed and newer technology. Theoretically, the turbo-boost will allow the i5 to reach temporary clock speeds of close to 3.3GHz, but we're talking about a relatively small difference here. (For example, the i3 could take 20 minutes to convert a video file and encode it, and the i5 will take about 18 minutes to do the same file.)

My opinion, go with the i3 Asus for $398. If you really want to shell out extra for a better system, get this i5 with a better video chip and dedicated memory. This one, which has even more RAM, and a class higher again video card. Or, you could even find a real deal, like this refurbished model. (Not only is it an i7, but it's also got 8GB RAM, better video, a better screen resolution, and a 1TB hard drive.)

Hope that helps I enjoyed shopping around.

I know it's Win8, but consider this.
Powered by the A8 APU from AMD. Doesn't have as much pull as the intel on the CPU side, but the onboard GPU is around 66% faster than the HD 3000. Also a larger HD, 2GB more ram, and retaining the 15.6" screen.