Weapon Fashion

Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »

r10 maybe?

These are actually pretty nice o.o and way better than the current R999 designs. I really like the daggers. b:chuckle


Back on topic though...

Eh, from a purely personal standpoint I have noticed that any new thing is trashed these days. Dreamchaser packs? Useless. Weapon Fashion? Useless. New Fashion? Useless. It's a trend I noticed. I do think the weapon fashion could be really fun. Is it anymore useful than any other cosmetic item, gameplay wise? Well, no. Although disguising your weapon could have some advantage in a situation like nation wars. But just because a design isn't your taste doesn't mean you gotta trash it. Everything is trashed nowadays. Sometimes that's totally justified (level 60 mana pots for purchasing high level merchandise?), sometimes it is a bit of a bummer to read. For example, I remember a time not that long ago in which we as a community made such a big thread at the concept of bacon axes, that it got GM attention. And everyone had fun. And now that something similar has become reality, it's oh that fashion doesn't suit my taste so it's worthless garbage. I guess I'm just mostly feeling nostalgic.

I'll have to agree with Venus. I know we've received a lot of crappy updates, tweaks and patches from PWCN before but nowadays it seems like people trash everything indeed, not even giving them a chance.

Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »

for some weapons i welcome the possibility to hide their ugly look...
others look way more awesome themself...

inbefore possible upcoming weaponskins...

r10 maybe?

If they implement skins like this and not only food skins, i actually start to like this.

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm not downvoting it because I simply don't like it. I'm downvoting it because I believe it will negatively affect my game play experience. The ability to identify your target is extremely important. If you are getting ganked by 10 people, being able to quickly identify which 9 are easily killed will greatly affect the outcome compared to just randomly selecting people to attack.

Because, y'know, all those R9S3 +12 JosD people just wear their massive def levels proudly on their fashion for everyone to see. :P

If you're gonna complain about wep fash, you may as well complain about fash in general. Unless they plan to disable fashion in TW/NW entirely, somehow I doubt there'll be that big a change. Plus if anyone uses wep fash it'll probably be the R9S3 types, so you could always look for those fash pieces and assume the worst. :P

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Because, y'know, all those R9S3 +12 JosD people just wear their massive def levels proudly on their fashion for everyone to see. :P

If you're gonna complain about wep fash, you may as well complain about fash in general. Unless they plan to disable fashion in TW/NW entirely, somehow I doubt there'll be that big a change. Plus if anyone uses wep fash it'll probably be the R9S3 types, so you could always look for those fash pieces and assume the worst. :P

While it is true that fashion also disguise armour, I think you can agree that a full r9 third cast +12 with josd using a bamboo bow is probably less dangerous than an armour-less archer using ☆☆☆Firmament +12 with double Drakeflames. Disregarding the fact that you can 1 shot the Firmament archer, if you saw both archers, you'd most likely be more willing to get hit by the Bamboo bow than the Firmament bow. For this reason, I believe that a disguised weapon will affect you a lot more than a disguised armour.

Identification of armour is only really useful to identify support based classes such as barbs or full support cleric. However the difference is, not being able to identify those means only that you wasted a few hits, while not being able to identify a DD means you have died already. And even those classes generally have notable weapons too, like r8 recast.

A more realistic example would be myself. I am using third cast armour but only first cast weapon. Despite the fact that people cannot identify me as third cast, they can still identify me as r9, which can still be equally threatening.

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

While it is true that fashion also disguise armour, I think you can agree that a full r9 third cast +12 with josd using a bamboo bow is probably less dangerous than an armour-less archer using ☆☆☆Firmament +12 with double Drakeflames. For this reason, I believe that a disguised weapon will affect you a lot more than a disguised armour.

Identification of armour is only really useful to identify support based classes such as barbs or full support cleric. However the difference is, not being able to identify those means only that you wasted a few hits, while not being able to identify a DD means you have died already. And even those classes generally have notable weapons too, like r8 recast.

A more realistic example would be myself. I am using third cast armour but only first cast weapon. Despite the fact that people cannot identify me as third cast, they can still identify me as r9, which can still be equally threatening.

What you had said was:

being able to quickly identify which 9 are easily killed will greatly affect the outcome

Last I checked, Firmament bow does jack for how easy its wielder is to kill (unless you're going to argue that 205 HP is the deciding factor in who you target, in which case you'd better watch out for that TT99 user with the 245 :P). I get that you were talking more about weapons than armor, but you weren't giving that impression in your last post, is all.

And after that point we're just gonna have to agree to disagree, because I personally don't see the inability to identify weapons as so much of a big deal... except for the fact that some weapons are actually good looking, but then I'm the weirdo who actually bothers to use full armor sets instead of saying "that's what fashion is for lol."

While I don't much like the designs, I adore the principle!
I've wanted weapon fash since... since I realized it's going to be forever for me to get a new weapon, and I'm really tired of how it looks after 2ish years of using the same one XD
So pump out the less food-ish designs! I'm ready for weapon-awesomeness b:thanks

Honestly not being able to see what weapon people are using isn't going to effect my gameplay much. Priority targets are priority targets due to class, not weapon for me; if 4 archers are pew-pewing me, doesn't matter which one I stop first XD

Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »

for some weapons i welcome the possibility to hide their ugly look...
others look way more awesome themself...

inbefore possible upcoming weaponskins...

r10 maybe?

i ahve a feeling that isnt r10 dont really think there would be ranked dual blades/sword it seems to make more since to keep it a single but i could be wrong jsut a hunch

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Weapon fash really?!