Is it illegal in NW...

Star_Prism - Archosaur
Star_Prism - Archosaur Posts: 216 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Nation Wars
1. For people to PM you after they kill you asking for gross sexual favors in exchange for them not killing you again?

2. For people to purposely lose a battle?

I'm not going to go into detail on the first one, let's just say it was bad enough to make me almost want to throw up and I even left the battle.

The second one in a way I think was worse. If people don't like the nation they are in, leave. Don't lose the battles so your friends can win. It is not right or fair to the other players in the nation who are not in your special clique.

In a battle 20 v 7 when the 20 have 10 R9's there is no reason that battle should be lost. Nor should a person carrying the flag be able to run past them and the only people attacking are the lower levels. Unless the 7 people happen to be in the same faction as most of the R9's in that battle.

I used to think spawn camping was bad, but this is a whole new level of low.
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  • Zanryu - Lothranis
    Zanryu - Lothranis Posts: 1,998 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Hmm I'm gonna have to try that first one. I've killed some pretty sexy ladies.
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  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I just had an ephiphany. How about when you enter NW, you lose your name for the duration of the war? That could help to stop point number 2.
  • BriarIce - Raging Tide
    BriarIce - Raging Tide Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Hmm I'm gonna have to try that first one. I've killed some pretty sexy ladies.

    If you want them to throw up then yeah go ahead ;p
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  • Zanryu - Lothranis
    Zanryu - Lothranis Posts: 1,998 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    If you want them to throw up then yeah go ahead ;p

    For all you know I'm an attractive man or woman, perhaps sexual acts with me wouldn't be all that horrible? b:chuckle
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    The first isn't allowed regardless of context. Submit a ticket with screenshots (if you have any) since that's basically harassment.

    The second one is allowed and not much can be done about it right now even if it weren't.
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  • Star_Prism - Archosaur
    Star_Prism - Archosaur Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    The first isn't allowed regardless of context. Submit a ticket with screenshots (if you have any) since that's basically harassment.

    I didn't get a screenshot, it some what took me off guard when I got the messages and I cleared my chat window without thinking. If it happens again I will remember to take one.
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  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    People whispering anything after getting killed in NW should be banned. It's like they expect no one to kill them in pvp while they beat on others.
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  • Sudqi - Sanctuary
    Sudqi - Sanctuary Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    the firstthing i do after join any battle " press tab" to find spm killers and at least stun then run away lool cuz i know spm killer ppl normally be full r9 with +12 or R999 ppl so no way to kill them x3 .

    ppl said " you have 15 sec " but they dont know in NW there is something call " lag " so u will lose like 10 sec in screen freezing so in total u have 5 sec to run away X.X .

    what about if pwi make " safe zone area" and sure u cant fight there but at least u can re buff and be ready for ppl who wait u out side :)
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    People whispering anything after getting killed in NW should be banned. It's like they expect no one to kill them in pvp while they beat on others.

    I had someone that I didn't even kill in NW pming me saying he wish I die in real....

    Some people just take that game too seriously it's sad.
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  • Pwnallagain - Heavens Tear
    Pwnallagain - Heavens Tear Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Few things. First, if someone is really bugging you just use the blacklist feature. Its there for a reason and mine is almost filled up. Will make ur life better. Second, teams with OP people can still lose. It takes teamwork to win. I have never heard of someone trying to lose for their friends. Thats just dumb and noone in their right mind would do so. And finally, it really isnt that bad with the spawn ****. I know i dont experience it on my sin, but I do on my archer and its not too hard to avoid. That person said 10 seconds wasted from lag. Yeah right, its like 1 second. So please utilize game features and figure out ways to combat the spawn **** rather than spend ur time posting about it. There are survival strategies to be taken advantage of.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    I actually whisper random people in NW all the time with silly comments or the like. It's a game, after all, so may as well have some fun with it and I see no reason to be a stoic mime in it.

    Especially fun is if I know the person I'm attacking or being attacked by since then I can PM them silly things about why can't we all just get along or form a peace treaty or just random nonsense... all while we continue bashing at each other. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you don't take it super seriously it's totally fine to get or give PMs to people even on the enemy nation.

    Though it's not like I don't kill my friends outside of NW and vice versa anyways, so it's not exactly a huge deal for us.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    The first isn't allowed regardless of context. Submit a ticket with screenshots (if you have any) since that's basically harassment.

    The second one is allowed and not much can be done about it right now even if it weren't.


    What if I have a PM from a guy that says, and I quote; "Hitler is like GOD compared to you. I pray every day that you die IRL."

    I feel as if reporting for harassment doesn't quite cut it in such a scenario. Is there a way for PWI to contact mental institutions in such scenarios?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    What if I have a PM from a guy that says, and I quote; "Hitler is like GOD compared to you. I pray every day that you die IRL."

    I feel as if reporting for harassment doesn't quite cut it in such a scenario. Is there a way for PWI to contact mental institutions in such scenarios?
    Er... um....
    Why would you want to burden a mental institution and waste taxpayer money like that instead of requesting they get put down?
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Er... um....
    Why would you want to burden a mental institution and waste taxpayer money like that instead of requesting they get put down?
    No... not really. b:surrender

    But that's the same guy that pmed me wishing I die in real. He pm a lot of people wishing them to die in real in pain and other **** like that... (not only in NW)
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  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I seem to remember in some point in the past PWI was contacted by a player who was concerned their friend online was about to attempt suicide. PWI then IP-addressed the friend and called the authorities who stop the individual who was attempting suicide from doing
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  • Dragoneast - Sanctuary
    Dragoneast - Sanctuary Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Can pm people you kill but just things like good fight or something friendly, like lets meet up again for rematch.

    as for point 1.... ewww.... is it illegal to send people after such people? could offer some coins to the people to kill him 10 times?b:puzzledb:worriedb:quietb:lipcurl
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  • BringinDeath - Archosaur
    BringinDeath - Archosaur Posts: 393 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Well i just been in Nation Wars & couldn't believe what i saw

    17 of frost vs 3 from dark, and we STILL lost -,-

    says alot don't it
  • TieIer - Dreamweaver
    TieIer - Dreamweaver Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    how do you see opposing players names?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    how do you see opposing players names?

    Either T menu, copy/paste their names (right display icon when you target them -> copy name) or sending them a PM the same way (right click display icon when they're targeted -> send whisper).

    ... or just recognize the character due to being friends/enemies with them. b:chuckle
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  • EbonyKitsune - Heavens Tear
    EbonyKitsune - Heavens Tear Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    one thing i find really funny is they'll split up faction members if they aren't in the same party. meaning if faction members are on voice chat while in nw, they can coordinate to avoid, or in some cases engage each other. just go to a secluded area and start attacking each other, neither actually letting the other win, but racking up points for dealing and taking damage. and since they aren't letting the other win, it's not technically against the rules.

    as for avoiding spawn-killers. i have a method that's about 90% effective for me, but if i say it, then they'll start expecting it and it won't be as effective. the thing i did notice though, people never look up.
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  • Ridelia - Momaganon
    Ridelia - Momaganon Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Especially fun is if I know the person I'm attacking or being attacked by since then I can PM them silly things about why can't we all just get along or form a peace treaty or just random nonsense... all while we continue bashing at each other.

    That reminds me. Everytime I see my in-game husband I throw anything I am doing at the moment and go to hunt for him - just because I can. It's so funny. Why kill some random players if I can show my hubby who is the boss? b:chuckle (we are same lvl and almost same EQ so its not like I am stronger than him or something, its a fair play, he is archer I am mystic, I can kill him easly, he can kill me easly, its all about who cast attacks faster)
  • Castgurl - Raging Tide
    Castgurl - Raging Tide Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    That reminds me. Everytime I see my in-game husband I throw anything I am doing at the moment and go to hunt for him - just because I can. It's so funny. Why kill some random players if I can show my hubby who is the boss? b:chuckle (we are same lvl and almost same EQ so its not like I am stronger than him or something, its a fair play, he is archer I am mystic, I can kill him easly, he can kill me easly, its all about who cast attacks faster)

    Lol in my faction, about 8 peeps including myself would start getting ready for Nation Wars on Fridays and Sundays. When we end up in different nations and I spot say the leader I would run like hell LOL not because I can't beat her but so that way when she starts raging about venos 1 shot'n her, I can sit and say it wasn't me...b:chuckleb:surrender

    Random whispers - I usually get "b:cry" or a friendly one from a friend. As for those not so friendly....screenshot - perma spam them. Works like a charm. b:cute
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  • TieIer - Dreamweaver
    TieIer - Dreamweaver Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    one thing i find really funny is they'll split up faction members if they aren't in the same party. meaning if faction members are on voice chat while in nw, they can coordinate to avoid, or in some cases engage each other. just go to a secluded area and start attacking each other, neither actually letting the other win, but racking up points for dealing and taking damage. and since they aren't letting the other win, it's not technically against the rules.

    as for avoiding spawn-killers. i have a method that's about 90% effective for me, but if i say it, then they'll start expecting it and it won't be as effective. the thing i did notice though, people never look up.

    thats a great idea!
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  • _RockHard_ - Lost City
    _RockHard_ - Lost City Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    The first isn't allowed regardless of context. Submit a ticket with screenshots (if you have any) since that's basically harassment.

    The second one is allowed and not much can be done about it right now even if it weren't.

    so basically if I wanted to log an alt put it in nw and grab the flag and just sit there afk preventing my team from capturing it I could then also use my main to beat my alts team while I'm snagging the flags preventing them from capturing it?

    I mean come on there has to be some set of standards here and a set of rules in place to help keep things in check. They have them for territory wars why not for nw as well I see ppl all the time force logging so they dont die as well as force logging as well as putting alts in nations to merely take up space for that nation and afk the whole time.

    There in all honesty has to be some sort of set rules and guidelines in place for these things otherwise your just gonna get more ppl like the goon glitchers from way back finding whatever exploit they can abusing the hell out of them till its to the point where nothing can be done but some sort of nerf that merely puts the rest of the community at a disadvantage unable to compete on a fair level.

    I mean who honestly still believes anyone has hit 105 yet legitimately? More over all that happend was a 1 day ban if that cause they all spammed so many tickets QQing about it but meh if nothings gonna be done then might as well join them and do whatever I can to get an advantage as well if history taught us anything wont matter nothing will be done about it anyway's.
  • TieIer - Dreamweaver
    TieIer - Dreamweaver Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    so basically if I wanted to log an alt put it in nw and grab the flag and just sit there afk preventing my team from capturing it I could then also use my main to beat my alts team while I'm snagging the flags preventing them from capturing it?

    I mean come on there has to be some set of standards here and a set of rules in place to help keep things in check. They have them for territory wars why not for nw as well I see ppl all the time force logging so they dont die as well as force logging as well as putting alts in nations to merely take up space for that nation and afk the whole time.

    There in all honesty has to be some sort of set rules and guidelines in place for these things otherwise your just gonna get more ppl like the goon glitchers from way back finding whatever exploit they can abusing the hell out of them till its to the point where nothing can be done but some sort of nerf that merely puts the rest of the community at a disadvantage unable to compete on a fair level.

    I mean who honestly still believes anyone has hit 105 yet legitimately? More over all that happend was a 1 day ban if that cause they all spammed so many tickets QQing about it but meh if nothings gonna be done then might as well join them and do whatever I can to get an advantage as well if history taught us anything wont matter nothing will be done about it anyway's.

    imma jsut try it so if i get base lcoked on one i can still make moeny on alt
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  • SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I mean who honestly still believes anyone has hit 105 yet legitimately? More over all that happend was a 1 day ban if that cause they all spammed so many tickets QQing about it but meh if nothings gonna be done then might as well join them and do whatever I can to get an advantage as well if history taught us anything wont matter nothing will be done about it anyway's.

    You still going to beat that dead horse? I know a number of people that have reached 105 legitimately and from first hand experience know just how easy it is now for an end game toon. If I had the dedication that a fellow cleric in DW has to solo pv every day I would have been 105 about a month ago.

    I agree completely that there needs to be more guidelines and more action taken for those that break the rules however as it stands the people in question in NW are not doing anything "wrong". The problem being is that it is so hard to police and in all honesty I can say I have never seen an "afk" flag carrier - usually just idiots that run the flag the wrong way.

    Just like in the real world you win some and you lose some. We have laws and people still break them or find ways to get around them - expecting anything different from an online game I feel is asking too much...