Sparks Faster

evilf3n1x
evilf3n1x Posts: 33 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Venomancer
Well, i want to do a search. What veno get more sparks faster? Sage or Demon?
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    sage gets more chi because of the change to gain triple chi from venomous, and sage chi skill

    demon crush vigor gives you a 50% chance to gain full spark

    both lending hands give you a chance to give yourself a spark when cast on yourself (one is a chance to cast without using a spark, the other is a chance to pass 2 sparks)
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  • SweetAnthrax - Heavens Tear
    SweetAnthrax - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Both are very easy to make sparks. A subtle difference is that sages are better suited for easy chi in human form (venomous and lending hand are game changers) while demons are more balanced for both human and fox form usage (lending hand x crush vigor).
  • helovesu
    helovesu Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    In my oppinion, Sage can gain chi more easily. It may be caused by some factors. Such as the spamable skill giving chi (sage venomous scarab) and the Li' skill of 50 chi (instantly).
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I don't know about sage, but as demon I'm always out of chi. (I guess I debuff too much xD)
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    I don't know about sage, but as demon I'm always out of chi. (I guess I debuff too much xD)

    Pretty much this. And its a healthy habit to spam heal on your pet whenever you're slightly idle. There really isn't much a veno needs chi for other than passing sparks and debuffing. I'm a sage and I never have chi because of constant debuffs.

    I have cloud eruption on my genie just in case.

    If you're asking about in pvp a sage will put on 50 chi every 60 seconds with Li's skill. A demon will take off 50 chi twice as often as Li's technique because of only 30 seconds cd.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Pretty much this. And its a healthy habit to spam heal on your pet whenever you're slightly idle. There really isn't much a veno needs chi for other than passing sparks and debuffing. I'm a sage and I never have chi because of constant debuffs.

    I have cloud eruption on my genie just in case.

    If you're asking about in pvp a sage will put on 50 chi every 60 seconds with Li's skill. A demon will take off 50 chi twice as often as Li's technique because of only 30 seconds cd.

    Yea I mainly almost just do TW so I don't really care to don't have chi, I don't need for purge and amp what is the main job of veno in TW.

    People told me that if I don'thave chi on my demon veno it's cause I play it bad. Well I don't care I amp, purge and debuff when I can, so I consider I do my job even if others tell me that I do something wrong if I don't have chi constantly.
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  • helovesu
    helovesu Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Yea I mainly almost just do TW so I don't really care to don't have chi, I don't need for purge and amp what is the main job of veno in TW.

    People told me that if I don'thave chi on my demon veno it's cause I play it bad. Well I don't care I amp, purge and debuff when I can, so I consider I do my job even if others tell me that I do something wrong if I don't have chi constantly.

    It is your own play style. Others do not have to judge it.

    Commonly your sparks can save you from undesireable things. Most of useful skills, actually are chi based. You can protect your self in TW by combining bramble hood and blazing barrier at the same time, which will give you 70% + 30% damage reduction.

    And do not forget, if you were not a demon, or a demon without demon summer sprint, or you were running out of medicine of impolarity, you still could use anti-immobile debuff by casting morai skill of natural synergy which requires 1 sparks.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    PvE wise, I believe a Venomancer should be capable enough to build, maintain and manage their chi regardless of cultivation.
    Sages have Master Li's Technique, Lending Hand and spamming Venomous. Demons have Lending Hand and Crush Vigor. Both of them can use Cloud Eruption and chi pots.

    Now, I do agree that debuffing does consume a lot of chi, as well as passing sparks when needed, so I usually don't triple spark in squads because I need to save my chi for debuffs and chi asisstance (with the exception of some scenarios such as; having another Venomancer in squad or being a major DD compared to the other people in squad) as well as make sure I have a spare spark for the Summer Sprint + Feral Concentration combo (as a Demon). In general though, I have absolutely no issue building up chi even as a Demon Venomancer but I do find myself without chi occasionally from debuffing and I believe that's not because I'm Demon but because this is how the class is.

    TW wise, Master Li's technique does help especially after you have just died but I throw Crush Vigor here and there when I find myself in Fox Form after having done my Purge/Amplify/Bewitch/Myriad round so I usually find myself having enough chi for basic needs such as Bewitch/Blazing Barrier/Ironwood which are the primary skills that consume my chi in TW.
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