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  • Shizunne - Heavens Tear
    Shizunne - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,277 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Liiights ooofff

    zzzz....
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off, mhm..let's sleep..
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  • incarnazeus
    incarnazeus Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on.

    No rest for the wicked sadly.
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  • Shizunne - Heavens Tear
    Shizunne - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,277 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights offf

    we are not wicked D:or were you referring to yourself? :o my grammar is awesum.
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  • Wolfssohn - Sanctuary
    Wolfssohn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off...

    Everyone is/has been/will be wicked in one way or another...
  • incarnazeus
    incarnazeus Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on.

    No, no, no. That'd promote something as equality, and that's just wrong.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off.

    Save Electricity. =P
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights stay off.

    Way too amused by some "artists" stupidity atm. b:surrender
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  • Wolfssohn - Sanctuary
    Wolfssohn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    No, no, no. That'd promote something as equality, and that's just wrong.

    1. I agree...equality doesn't exist...
    2. Where does it promote equality...? Just 'cause I said everyone is/has been/will be wicked doesn't mean they're all the same amount of wicked...also they're wicked in different ways and at different times...and different places...
    And while we're at it..."wicked" has different meanin's for every bein'...

    Lights off...
  • incarnazeus
    incarnazeus Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    *keeps lights off*

    Wicked is wicked, no matter when, where, what and how; by saying everyone's wicked (at times to different degrees) you're stuffing everyone into the same kind of box which results in sameness thus equality.
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  • Wolfssohn - Sanctuary
    Wolfssohn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off...

    Nope...even if I'd put everyone in the same box...they'd be in different spaces in that box...ergo different...
    Also as I said before...everyone has a different understandin' of "wicked"...
    And I guess...not every spoken/thought "wicked" is the same said/thought "wicked" as before...
  • Shizunne - Heavens Tear
    Shizunne - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,277 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights are still off


    what an interesting conversation :3
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  • incarnazeus
    incarnazeus Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on.

    Oh, please. There aren't different 'spaces' in a box. Just one. And if you put people or stuff in it, it mingles and ultimately loses individuality. Or would/could you list off everything you've in that box? You'd rather use some generalised term for the contents.
    And the lexical definitions of 'wicked' are pretty much agreeing overall. 'Wicked' has more of a negative denotation (leaving aside the 'positive' meaning when used in slang).
    There's not much room for a free interpretation/denotation of that term I'd say.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Lights in a state between on and off.

    I like where this conversation is going.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on...or maybe not? b:scorn
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  • Shizunne - Heavens Tear
    Shizunne - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,277 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Meh Let the light shine!

    Sheep.
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    These horns are just there to keep the halo up straight.. (っ◠‿◠)っ ♥
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  • Wolfssohn - Sanctuary
    Wolfssohn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off...

    So now ya slightly seem to promote equality Silvy...interestin'...

    Anyways...so ya're sayin'...just 'cause I, one single "person", may or may not forget what stuff I put in that box...each and every single thin' in that box loses individuality...just 'cause I'm not able to remember...? Ya're puttin' me in some little god-like position that way...
    And luckily for ya and me...I am not...

    The stuff in that box would still have each their own individuality...of course some "humans" would just call it "stuff in a box" or so, but each single thin' is still their as it's own...

    And as for the word "wicked"...sure a lexicon might say it has a specific meanin'...
    Though I highly doubt it means exact (and I really mean...EXACT) the same thin' for every person, since their imagination/way of thinkin' and livin' is different from every other human...
    Also...each word used is...situational...the exact meanin' often (if not always) differs...

    And of course there are different spaces in that box (and anywhere) aswell...somethin' will be a lil more to the left than the rest for example...
  • ErisedDeSang - Sanctuary
    ErisedDeSang - Sanctuary Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I dun wanna be in a box b:cry
  • incarnazeus
    incarnazeus Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on!

    Hm... I guess I did... though I didn't 'promote' it in its 'common' usage. If you can call the use and presenting of facts 'promoting'.

    And I meant single things lose their individuality if viewed as a whole/ in the mass.
    It's still majority > minority; so instead of listing everything (you remember) you put into that box, you generalise, sum it up.
    Though I agree - for yourself and a few others individuality of a single being (/self-perception of being an individual) is still present, it's like having hundreds of little boxes within the box, but viewed as an 'unity', it's just boxes in a box.

    About the 'god-like' position... you could say every (rational) thinking, existing and living being (-> great chain of being) is/can be referred as a god in a way. With some exceptions and factors. But having that theory in mind, you're as much of a God than I am.

    As to 'wicked'; sure, definitions might differ, still like I mentioned earlier, it's mostly negatively denoted. And lexica... are made by humans who ultimately base their knowledge and acquisition of information on the mass or majority. And it seems the majority deemed those definitions as 'common'. You as an individual can surely feel free to 'misuse' any words to your own personal delight at any time - with the risk of being misunderstood by the majority.

    Lastly... I might have been wrong about the space inside of a box considering there is more than one dimension active at a time, though roughly viewed there is just one space inside afterall.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Brains off.

    Sometimes just observing is much better than actively participating. Other times it can be entirely counterproductive to do so. It really depends.
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  • Wolfssohn - Sanctuary
    Wolfssohn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off...

    Exactly...it's "humans" who make thin's lose their individuality in their minds...which is quite...inconvenient...
    Why do people sum thin's up...? 'Cause they're not able to (let's keep that example) list all the stuff in that box in a fast way...the communication of "humans" is way too slow to transport information in a fast way, without losin' a lot of that information...(not to mention they can't even remember all of it...)
    Why is it inconvenient...? 'Cause information is one of the most powerful resources...
    Information keeps science improvin' thin's & develope new stuff...
    Information makes it easier to find a way to destroy enemies...
    Information lets ya know when someone important to ya has a bad time...
    Even with the new technology...the communication between "humans" didn't become that much faster...
    And even though machines can transport information to other machines quite fast...they're still quite limited...and it doesn't help "humans" that much since they still gotta read/listen...which takes time...and many "humans" don't like wastein' time...hence they don't read carefully enough...

    'Bout ya bein' as much of a god as I am...I really can't tell if that is true...there might be differences, though its very difficult to prove...
    Also I wouldn't want to know it...makes thin's rather borin...

    The word "wicked"...it always differs...since it goes back to the question "What is good and what is evil...?"
    So people simply have different meanin's for it...even if the differences are small...
    But yeah..."humans" summarizing and so on...see above...

    And I wouldn't say ya were "wrong"...just thinkin' in a different dimension...
  • incarnazeus
    incarnazeus Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on.

    While everything you said sounds proper and plausible, I'm not so sure about the information... knowledge part. There's a difference between knowing things and putting things you know to use (theory and practice). If you lack the resources knowledge won't bring you any far in most cases. In fact it's rather frustrating if you cannot really put it to use or if things are just beyond your abilities.

    And is it really information that helps science evolve, helps finding the brink in the armour of your enemies? Is it not something entirely coincidental? I think discoveries turn into 'information' at some point. Further, information as it stands isn't a 'raw' product... just something deemed 'useful to know' by humans, something compiled and composed in a way.
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  • Nefertitties - Heavens Tear
    Nefertitties - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    lights off its 2 am and time to sleep muwahahahab:bye
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on, that's some intense conversation going on there o.o
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  • Wolfssohn - Sanctuary
    Wolfssohn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off...

    Everythin'...just everythin ya hear, see, smell, feel, taste or whatsoever is a form of information...If ya're not able to do somethin', it's simply 'cause ya lack information...(either ya just don't know how it works or, in case ya're for example to weak to do somethin', ya just don't have enough information to improve your own body or to help yourself with machines or so...)
    I say Information is one of the most (or even THE most) powerful resources, cause let's face it...:
    If ya have enough information, ya can technically do anythin' ya want...
    Nothin' could stop ya, 'cause ya know how to avoid/defeat/improve (and so on) stuff...

    And sure...the way ya get the informations might be coincidence..., but then again...what isn't...? The fact that the sky is blue could be a coincidence...the fact that ya were born could be a coincidence...our whole universe could be just a coincidence...
    Unless, like some people believe, there is some sort of "higher power"...or "god" as some people call it...and even if there was...where did it come from...? Is it a coincidence aswell...or does a higher power control it...? Could go on forever at this point...
    But noone can tell, 'cause we lack that information...
  • incarnazeus
    incarnazeus Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on.

    Not true, Wolf. Everything you perceive with your senses is finitely made into information, yes, but it merely starts out as simple sensation which we human beings 'decode' in a way or translate into 'information'. You may call them reflexes or instincts/inputs.

    Information or rather knowledge - I like the term more - sure is one of the most powerful resources, but it sure has its downsides and may backfire.
    If you've enough or infinite information to make it a bit more extreme, you either want to hide it from others as your fellow kin will surely try to make use of you or silently dispose of you (which they probably couldn't, hoorray - or not 'cause you'd end up being all alone and unhappy unless you manage to make friends among animals). Either way a sad ending will be yours for sure.

    Anything could stop you at some point in the end. Because humans make errors, even the most cunning person with infinite knowledge. And even if you frantically try to avoid making errors, it just increases the pressure causing you to make those tragic errors that'll lead to your death.
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  • Wolfssohn - Sanctuary
    Wolfssohn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off...

    I wouldn't be so fast sayin' it's not true...
    Those sensations...what are they made of...? Where do they come from...?
    I assume...there gotta be some sort of information/data/"better word to describe what i mean" that actually creates those sensations...which will then be turned into other information by livin' bein's, that they actually understand...

    I choose to call it "information", 'cause it seems "untouched"...while knowledge seems to me more like somethin' "humans" make out of information...
    But that's not important...

    And...Information itself doesn't have downsides..."humans" (or rather "the user" of that information) have downsides...
    If ya actually have "infinite information"...how can someone make use of ya...? Ya'd know how to deal with every situation...how to deal with all the different minds so ya'll be safe from assaults (either by avoidin' or defendin' yourself...) and still be able to socialize as ya please...'cause ya have all the information...ya'll exactly know where any person will be at any time...what their plas are...what they think...
    Ya could create machines...or whatsoever that make ya immortal...
    Your examples...are not "Infinite Information"...'cause ya'd just know better once ya reach it...
    If somebody actually had "infinite information"...he'd be "a higher power"...a "god"...It would be...perfection...

    Somethin'...that doesn't exist in the livin' world I know...
    It might exist somewhere out there...but i doubt it...maybe in death though...
  • incarnazeus
    incarnazeus Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights on.

    I really really really don't think that one could socialise while knowing too much. People would rather ostracise such abnormalities... Afterall everything/everyone beyond understanding is somewhat feared, difference shunned, that's no base for happiness and true companionship. No one would trust someone who knew everything...
    I don't know... if I were to have such knowledge I'd pretty much kill myself quickly. Perhaps leaving some kind of riddles behind to pass on that knowledge... to cause some havoc even when long dead.
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off, I haven't read any of the conversation above c:
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  • Wolfssohn - Sanctuary
    Wolfssohn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Lights off...

    That's 'cause "humans" are simply not able to gain that "infinite information"...
    If...for some weird coincidence (or not...?) someone manages to gain it...he's at least from that point on...no longer "human"...
    It's somethin' I can't describe...but as "perfection" as mentioned earlier...

    And of course ya wouldn't be able to live with it...as a "human" ya do have emotions/feelin's/a personality...which makes ya unable to control too much information...
    Kinda ironic...what some people say makes the "human race" special is one of their biggest weak points...
    Ya probably wouldn't be able to kill yourself...
    I guess either ya die instantly, 'cause the brain gets some sort of...let's call it "overload"...or ya'd go insane...lost in your thoughts forever...
    If that's not the case...then yeah, ya'd kill yourself...as fast as possible...
    Still like your idea, though...