Stealth put to good use

Star_Prism - Archosaur · January 2013

When you read through the forums of late you see a lot of people frustrated over spawn killing and ever since sins have come out people have voiced their strong dislike of stealth. Basically it's two things that everyone hates, so put them together.

Right now when people respawn they have a 15 to 20 second of immunity, which is great, but people can still target you (and some people have said they were stunned even with this immunity). If you had that same immunity, same amount of time but just added stealth to it, spawn camping would be impossible because nobody could see you. Those 15-20 seconds would give people enough time to buff and get away from the spawn point. To make it fair to everyone else, I think that during that time you should not be able to attack anyone. So when everyone respawns they get a stealth level of 200, then even the highest level would not be able to see them.
I think this would be a really simple fix and the rest of the battle could be kept the same.

Apostasy - Raging Tide · January 2013

Star_Prism - Archosaur wrote: »

When you read through the forums of late you see a lot of people frustrated over spawn killing and ever since sins have come out people have voiced their strong dislike of stealth. Basically it's two things that everyone hates, so put them together.

Right now when people respawn they have a 15 to 20 second of immunity, which is great, but people can still target you (and some people have said they were stunned even with this immunity). If you had that same immunity, same amount of time but just added stealth to it, spawn camping would be impossible because nobody could see you. Those 15-20 seconds would give people enough time to buff and get away from the spawn point. To make it fair to everyone else, I think that during that time you should not be able to attack anyone. So when everyone respawns they get a stealth level of 200, then even the highest level would not be able to see them.
I think this would be a really simple fix and the rest of the battle could be kept the same.

Yes. Level 200 stealth and damage immunity for 15 seconds would work very nicely. I think this should be implemented ONLY for characters at level 99 or lower (60-99). Level 100+ characters should NOT be changed in this respect.

The reason why people get stunned is because the current "immunity" is only verse damage. So slows/snares/stuns/sleeps etc (wether or not they have a damage component) all still take effect.

+ all the nation bases away from the walls of the map, and I think this really fixxes NW itself.

The only other things I have mentioned on other posts were : 1. a separate NW-type event for the 60-85/99 range with non-supply token rewards (mainly to get players oriented to NW / TW type scenarios and help them level up or gear up a bit). 2. A new NW forge specifically for the lower levels to craft gears/mats they can actually use with the supply tokens they happen to receive.

Nariin - Dreamweaver · January 2013

Star_Prism - Archosaur wrote: »

When you read through the forums of late you see a lot of people frustrated over spawn killing and ever since sins have come out people have voiced their strong dislike of stealth. Basically it's two things that everyone hates, so put them together.

Right now when people respawn they have a 15 to 20 second of immunity, which is great, but people can still target you (and some people have said they were stunned even with this immunity). If you had that same immunity, same amount of time but just added stealth to it, spawn camping would be impossible because nobody could see you. Those 15-20 seconds would give people enough time to buff and get away from the spawn point. To make it fair to everyone else, I think that during that time you should not be able to attack anyone. So when everyone respawns they get a stealth level of 200, then even the highest level would not be able to see them.
I think this would be a really simple fix and the rest of the battle could be kept the same.

That would work

I would put more like 10 sec though. So it doesn't get annoying for it to wait to wear off and I think 10 sec is enough to move away or get ready.

@Apostasy: I see no point in only changing for 60-99

Apostasy - Raging Tide · January 2013

Nariin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I see no point in only changing for 60-99

Then you are quite naive to how quickly r9+ people would abuse this... there is no reason for a 100+ to also have stealth... Im sorry but should only be implemented for levels 60-99.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver · January 2013

Shouldn't be implemented at all.

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear · January 2013

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Shouldn't be implemented at all.

I agree. 15-20 seconds is enough time to buff, get on a mount and run.

Star_Prism - Archosaur · January 2013

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I agree. 15-20 seconds is enough time to buff, get on a mount and run.

It's not enough time if you are stunned as soon as you respawn. And this is a tactic some people are resorting too.

thegreatconquero · January 2013

Maybe PWI will make an item buyable or craftable that can see those stealth players in order to counteract the problem. Just a thought ^^

Apostasy - Raging Tide · January 2013

thegreatconquero wrote: »

Maybe PWI will make an item buyable or craftable that can see those stealth players in order to counteract the problem. Just a thought ^^

um... b:surrender b:cry does anybody read anymore? b:question

Nariin - Dreamweaver · January 2013

Apostasy - Raging Tide wrote: »

Then you are quite naive to how quickly r9+ people would abuse this... there is no reason for a 100+ to also have stealth... Im sorry but should only be implemented for levels 60-99.

What about 100+ people that are NOT r9+?
Or people that still have 99 gears?

And how would they abuse it with being unable to attack?

Stealth put to good use

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