How does normal attack beat skills damage?

for pve, just auto attack.
as noob archers running instances before assassins existed, we would pull aggro with no aps gear and tt 60 xbow just by auto attacking. We would use skills on a macro as an attempt to not pull aggro. People used to see me skill spamming and get upset with me minimizing damage. I'm currently full g16 armor and bow with no aps whatsoever and I far higher damage over time with just auto attacking.

Archers have the highest auto attack damage per hit of any class, but consequently the weakest skill damage excluding the skills with long cast/charge/channel, but those result in less damage still. Only time you use skills is for aoeing. For attacking a single target, basically just stunning arrow for crit and quickshot for faster shooting (assuming demon skills, those are the best 2) and on a boss open with sharpened tooth arrow if you do not have bloodvow. You may also if you do not have quickshot, hold down your take aim shortcut key for faster chi gathering so you can spark more often. In pvp just stun and quickshot and pew pew pew with mixed defensive skills against all aa/la opponents. Against HA mix in metal attacks with your stuns and pew pew pews, because metal will do more but pew pew pew will still do alot of pain. Never use stormrage eagleon though, and use thunderous blast sparingly because even as a metal skill, its channeling can get you killed in pvp

actually if i didnt have the bow i would go xbow for archer.. it has theoretically and i think practically highest possible dph in game.. if you hit max attack and crit it it should be sick.. but idk any archers with higher refine then +8 on xbow ttheyre still pretty rare.. and aps i had full aps gear on archer and now have 0 aps gear, the difference is insignificant.. ofc its better to shoot a bit faster, but u cant feel it as much, its not sin after all.. and archers skills are very important, but overall if you take dmg per minute you would hit by simple normal attack cos of no channeling true, but also depends on who are u trying to kill, if you killing 'increased pdef' mob you would hit way more with thundershock+ lightning strike + even thunderblast then normal attacking

Do skills really take twice as long? It's like 1.6s for the faster skills, while his xbow is at about 1.5s per attack. The only concern then is delay between casts because it takes more human input.

Also Barrage pretty much absolutely fails at single target DPS compared to normal attacks. People that Barraged during Tiger Boss always sucked :d

When people say archers should stick to normal attacks they mean on bosses and triple sparking every opportunity. Once you take sparking into account this method destroys any other strategy against a boss.

If your an inveterate skill spammer than switch to seeker.

Archer skills are mostly for control, such as freezes and stuns and trying to spike damage on the first shot against an enemy in a situation where the cast time for that first shot isn't relevant.

actually yea if youre lvl 10 and ur physical att is 4-10 and skill dmg adds additional dmg by 200 so you would hit more spamming skills.. depends individually i guess, most here are 100+ and at this lvl/wep the attack itself is huge and additional attack means nothing,
and i guess noone knows about channeling affecting barrage :P

Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »

(2.5 seconds with sage)

demon, sage take 33% less dmg

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I never, ever understood this: you are wasting mana in order to deal less damage.

It would be more efficient to simply stop attacking.

yep I always facepalm when I hear something about "having to lessen my damage". When you have to deal less damage, you probably should have realized the +12 weapon is a waste going with those +3 armor.

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Or just carry a lower level weapon. I have a Wind and Clouds and my Rank 8 bow in my invo if I somehow need to deal less damage.

I get it! Because using W&C + arrows = 0 damage due to incorrect ammunition type!

b:avoid

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I never, ever understood this: you are wasting mana in order to deal less damage.

It would be more efficient to simply stop attacking.

You do it to look shiny and sparkly, or due to being clueless/weird.

Much like why male archers will stormrage bosses.

Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »

No no no archers use stormrage to make babies. Duh

Key word, Gecko: Male.


Of course the females know stormrage is for babies. b:cute

O,o
i have a baby archer lvl 58, looks exactly like me b:cute

OPKossy wrote: »

Adopted + Plastic Surgery. <

You haven't seen Ig. His toon's appearance makes you want to puke. Poor baby