look at this build and say what you think...

Samurai_Jack - Dreamweaver · December 2012

http://pwcalc.com/2f3a3a795f752cd5
not sure if i sould make my sin like this
but see at the defences and the 5 aps base
i can switch to dagger for skills or i sould be LA?
and if the sin is going ha it'll be
sage for the damage reduction,
othrtwise demon if la
segestions?

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary · December 2012

Eww a claw, now nirvana int **** is cheap, make use of it, make a basic aps monkey set-up and you will be fine for farming purposes, 99,9 pct of sins go LA for a reason, even though your def is ****, you damage output will be insane, add refines to boost your hp and phy def, then it will be good, I`m LA and can`t complain too much, but yeah would wish for more defence.

fuzzywuzz · December 2012

This question is better asked in the sin sub-forum Fuzzy does believe.

-moved-

opkossy · December 2012

Samurai_Jack - Dreamweaver wrote: »

http://pwcalc.com/2f3a3a795f752cd5
not sure if i sould make my sin like this
but see at the defences and the 5 aps base
i can switch to dagger for skills or i sould be LA?
and if the sin is going ha it'll be
sage for the damage reduction,
othrtwise demon if la
segestions?

There's zero point to that build if you aren't using gears from an alt and stashing over.

Even as a demon using demon chill to have 5.0 sparked with claws (does this even work still? Somebody go check because I haven't bothered with the thought for ages) you'd still be doing lower damage than a traditional LA sin, which means less heals from BP as well. And since your ornaments wouldn't be of much use as a HA sin with evasion ornaments compared to the usual L one with phys orns (who can then refine for more p.def), the defense you're considering is... also not much to look at.

As a comparison, http://pwcalc.com/0ba7dd0ae047c860 is the same sin but turned into the regular LA build. The +0 G13 already deals higher damage thanks to dagger devotion and it basically beats what you have shown in everything but p.def (note that I'm assuming this sin will be demon).

Basically, if you aren't going to be stashing gear over, don't bother. If you are going to stash gear and just use the sin to farm, on the other hand, then it really won't matter that much overall because account stashing gear is free.

Samurai_Jack - Dreamweaver · December 2012

OPKossy wrote: »

There's zero point to that build if you aren't using gears from an alt and stashing over.

Even as a demon using demon chill to have 5.0 sparked with claws (does this even work still? Somebody go check because I haven't bothered with the thought for ages) you'd still be doing lower damage than a traditional LA sin, which means less heals from BP as well. And since your ornaments wouldn't be of much use as a HA sin with evasion ornaments compared to the usual L one with phys orns (who can then refine for more p.def), the defense you're considering is... also not much to look at.

As a comparison, http://pwcalc.com/0ba7dd0ae047c860 is the same sin but turned into the regular LA build. The +0 G13 already deals higher damage thanks to dagger devotion and it basically beats what you have shown in everything but p.def (note that I'm assuming this sin will be demon).

Basically, if you aren't going to be stashing gear over, don't bother. If you are going to stash gear and just use the sin to farm, on the other hand, then it really won't matter that much overall because account stashing gear is free.

Actually,this sin is in the same acount,ican stash the gears from bm to sin but you guyts just made me reallise that more stats on dex,dagger devolution will get me more damage .
mhmmm...i might go LA like the rest

Bhavyy - Raging Tide · December 2012

"What I think?"

No.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary · December 2012

The only two times I think claws are okay for a sin are:

95-100 when Deicides out dd Hook and Thorns and Pixie Piercers. Many sins already have 117str for the Warsoul helm and so adding 29 strength more for Deicides is not a huge loss but allows them more dd, perma spark, and thanks to the strength, paint heals, and perma spark it offers more defensively.

Sage sins. Many sage sins sit around 2.86-4.0 and can gain more dps by using claws. This is slightly countered by the need to swap to daggers to use their skills and also when unsparked daggers still do more dps. So it's a choice of whether giving up dex is worth more sparked damage and less unsparked damage. I personally think it is, since farming at 4/5 aps is easier than 2.86/3.33 and I'm more concerned with farming on my sin then pvp or unsparked damage, but its up to the individual goals of the player.

At no point do I look at HA gear and think its a good idea for sin unfortunately. Especially that build, where any advantages you gained by going HA you then lost by using evasion ornaments.

Samurai_Jack - Dreamweaver · December 2012

Guyts don't bother replying no more.
My sin is 85 will prepare his lvl 90 rank gear this weak til he dings,he's going LA full dex and enogh str for warsoul of earth.
Too bad i really like the HA but LA should be better.

look at this build and say what you think...

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