Dear Gm's

Meh, we been around long enough to know that even if there are good Tws they get draggy after a while, nation wars is the funnest thing in game...until you get stuck in base or take 15min to join a war. Nation wars are just a lot more fun than TW will be because you never know who your going to fight and those 6vs15 are fun !

Tw was fun when it was tt90 + 5 ,

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Your tw vs Crimson was so bad??

40 minute war was okay

Won't work anyways. Zulu basically took the map back in the day. People tend to just give the hell up.

That would be fun

Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »

There are still well equipped players out there in terribad guilds that think they are great since they get on the map and gain 4/5 lands every reset. Longer tw seasons would give people the chance to realize that their guild sucks when it loses every real tw they get. It would give them a chance to actually know what a real tw is >.>

If the only other "big guild" on the map wasnt always on the opposite side of the map trying to run away from us maybe we wouldnt need to crystal sprint for 5months to get there.

They're almost gone anyways. I mean let's be honest: Mayhem, Omerta, Sacrament and Deicide are only on the map because other guilds allow them to exist. (Think Sacrament should be given a chance to exist though, let's see what they're made of compared to other 3rd rate factions) Other guilds like Absinthe, Insanity and CrimsonJr aren't serious factions and don't have any ambition of taking more land. They're just kinda...there. For various reasons. (Taking in extra income for their main faction, CrimsonJr for beating boastful factions that enjoy talking a lot of smack, to humble them and teach them how mediocre they are, something I think we've done an excellent job of this season b:cute )

Who's left? Dark, Infamous and Crimson. Those three basically control the map currently. Give it a couple more weeks and even more of the above-mentioned guilds will surely be gone. Even now, their existence is quite petty. Deicide is the only one amongst them with more than 2 lands.


I think you're being an idealist about this and not a realist. You and I can both look at the map now and say with 100% certainty that aside from Dark, Infamous and Crimson, all other guilds only exist on the map because those three ALLOW them to exist. That's the reality of the situation though. But as world chat, recent threads on this forum and any attempts any individuals might've personally made to merge with a smaller guild have made abundantly clear: our server is delusional as ****. I've said before, Deicide, Mayhem and Omerta should all step down. They've been trying for years now to make progress, and they've never ever ever succeeded. But they won't do it. Maybe because the leaders are too egotistical and don't want to admit they're not Jesus ****ing Christ at everything they do (in this case leadership), maybe because the leaders are willing to lead an entire faction off a cliff if it means they get ~7-15mil bonus personal income per week, maybe because the factions members are simply afraid of change and dare not join another faction, thinking all members of all other factions have rabies and do bite.
Whatever the reason, I can't say for certain (though I can guess), but I do know that no matter how hard you hammer the reality of the situation into their heads, they're not gonna listen.

Yet another reason why I love CrimsonJr. b:cute No other guild says "wake up and smell the suckitude" like CrimsonJr when it manages to beat you with no sign-ups, members on whatever the hell vents they have access to and an army of alt characters with sub-par gear or level. Not talking trash here, but anyone seen Isabella on world chat lately? Didn't think so. And as I said, I'm not talking trash here. On the contrary: props to him for being able to face reality and to see that no, Omerta doesn't know jack about TW. That's a lot better than some other guilds and it's good to see a change in attitude for once rather than this stagnant delusional cycle of Crimson and Infamous duking it out while the rest of the server slave-bids Infamous because Crimson somehow manages to forget how2TW every couple weeks and thus can't handle fighting Infamous on their own. And why are we bidding Infamous? "Because Crimson told us they are evil." Whelp, I'm sold! If they said it, it must be true! Nevermind that Crimson constantly uses us for personal gain and gives us nothing in return whereas Infamous' largest crime is telling us that we suck, obviously words are more evil than straight-up manipulation!!

But I digress, going on a mini-rant about how predictable the server is. My point is that they could abolish map reset altogether and we'd STILL have Mayhem and Omerta and Deicide attempting to take land via stacks, and we'd STILL have Crimson trying to ally the entire server to stop Infamous. Remember Zulu basically took the map, and Zulu got bid right down to the very end by those same exact factions that still exist today.

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

...anyone seen Isabella on world chat lately? Didn't think so.

http://oi50.tinypic.com/34o6b0n.jpg

FoosYu - Harshlands wrote: »

i'm still waiting for all the factions that talked trash on world chat for hours/days/weeks/months to bid b:shutup

Good Luck With That. ^-^

Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »

Either way long, something needs to change on the server or it's going to die fast once nation war loses that new and shiny effect. Wish we could have gm's disband lvl3 guilds and disable the leaders from ever leading again. That would at least be lulzy

If you wanted something really lulzy, 50-75 members per guild with 40 allowed per TW.

Szol - Harshlands wrote: »

as long as you got 2 competent guild leaders left on HL , there should not be a problem of facerolling tws.

Which we don't. We have one, plus another guild that's amazing at convincing the entire server to play human shield for them.

Which don't get me wrong, Crimson is still a good TW faction, but when it takes all of the server playing human shield for them in order for them to be able to compete with Infamous...? I sort of question if it's ideal to rely on them to fight Infamous and I definitely question if it's worth it in the sense that half of the server ends up basically being slaves to Crimson, doing their bidding JUST so Crimson can win, with no profit for the other guilds whatsoever. And why? "Becuz Crimson said Infamous is evil." Um...sure, ok. Morality in a game. Didn't know we had that.
The result is no other guilds have a chance to grow because they're failing to rake in profit while spending all their money in order to be adequate human shields for Crimson. Bidding is a mil, towers are 7mil, a charm is 5-10mil, etc etc etc.



Don't mean to sound like a broken record, but my complaint is that I think we have a lot of guild leaders desperately clinging on to "glory" that they don't even realize they don't actually possess. Crimson likes to fancy themselves 1st rate, but the reality is they've never been able to consistently beat Zulu/Cata/Infamous without stack slaves. They always have been and always will be 2nd rate; they deserve respect for being better than the rest of the server thusfar, sure, but that doesn't mean they're qualified to compete with a 1st rate guild. Another guild should be given a chance to thrive, but Crimson won't allow this, understandably, because their current position affords them more income and power than they would have if they stepped back and gave someone else a try; Crimson IS a guild that, if they gave another guild a chance, they could be replaced. Kylin has proven this with relative ease before.

What I don't get though is why everyone continues to stack for them when they get no personal profit out of it whatsoever and Crimson has a terrible habit of treating allies like trash and leaving them to die. Hell, it costs people to stack for Crimson, unless Crimson is footing everyone's tower bill. And meanwhile the reason is "Infamous is evul." Infamous doesn't even play. They don't PVP, they don't even troll anymore. They play LoL, then they log on and do TW, then they play LoL. What exactly do they do that's so evil? Yes, obviously everyone's goal should be to beat Infamous, but you can't just blindly go for them and be proud of being stack b**** #7. No, be smart about it and figure out who the best leader in your guild is and pass him lead.

Szol - Harshlands wrote: »

what i actually meant was this :

whatever guild is dominating or the *one* guild (kd , kylin , zulu , kinda in that order back in 2k9) should merge into 2 guilds . equally . --> profit

never said anyone shuld join crimson

p.s aint you that ex kylin psy, running around in soooo bad gears ?


name's somehow calling a bell here

I wuz the one that always won the "Good at PVP despite god awful gears" category for those yearly threads people make. b:cute


Now I learned how2economy and I managed r9 so I'm a bootiful lobster boy.

When you can call in to your friend who works at PWI and have someone call you back and quote you how much $$$$ it will take to have a set of 3rd cast R9 +12 JOSD made; in addition to being told that certain GM's who have characters in certain guilds/factions; it is time to realize that nothing will change and it is time to move on to something else. Or you can pay the amount you were quoted (like a few have already on the server) and go on about your business like nothing has happened.

If you decide to continue and play; "just to play" then so be it.

Laugh all you want, troll my comment, say I am lieing, heck ban me if you want. It does not matter anymore.

I know the truth and see the "bigger picture" for what it is....

"Will not surprise me, if this thread gets closed now".....