my dislikes about pwi
Black_wolve - Sanctuary
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I wanted to say that i really dislike whats going on with perfectworld with whats been going on between the bh's and how the game it self has has changed through the years.
First of all lets start with the Bounty Hunter Quest a lot of younger players are pushing a lot of people in to doing delta on spawn point wich is not right at all what if the player don't want spawn point?the answere is then that player gets told your no good or u don't have what it takes it really seems to be a lot of abuse going on why do the gm'sput up with it? a lot of pushing going on not only with delta but with warsong a lot of players have this thing where they want to rush through it get it done fast have no care in the world about other players.
This my friends is true then as i been doing research i foud that people are only interested in warsong for the molds and they sell thease molds on differnt sites for real money this i have done months of research on not only there selling accounts but r9 and warsong gear now for usd .My question is why don't the developers of perfectworld make changes make it you can't put any mold in to account stash and make it a perminate bannd for those selling accountsetc on differn't sites.
Perfectworld has to make changes this game getting way out of control you have way to many people abusing ythe game and others .And now it become that they don't want to know you if you don't fit there standards such as u must have the right armor or wepons aps etc to fit in this has caused more trouble then the game it self is worth most people i know have quit moved on to other games there disgusted in how this game has become.
Well not only the bh'swarsong,and we also have lnar now that has went to hell now ore greed when we did it years ago every one spent 500k each the mats was random now it's 500k k the on who supplys the essence gets the molds now again Greed and trust me this going to get worse then better.I refuse to do any bh runs in warsong or delta or even lunar iam tired of the abuse iam tired of the kids pushing others and also bad mouthing me because iam not a demon barb .
Thats another thing i became a sage barb first of all i don't pk or tw etc secon of all i built my barb for tanking only never had anycomplaits in the past now i get told iam no good because i don't want to do delta at spawn point or do warsong and lunar iam not demon . Sorry for the long post but i really think that if this continues most of the older players all going to leave and move on to differnt games no one wants to be abused.
First of all lets start with the Bounty Hunter Quest a lot of younger players are pushing a lot of people in to doing delta on spawn point wich is not right at all what if the player don't want spawn point?the answere is then that player gets told your no good or u don't have what it takes it really seems to be a lot of abuse going on why do the gm'sput up with it? a lot of pushing going on not only with delta but with warsong a lot of players have this thing where they want to rush through it get it done fast have no care in the world about other players.
This my friends is true then as i been doing research i foud that people are only interested in warsong for the molds and they sell thease molds on differnt sites for real money this i have done months of research on not only there selling accounts but r9 and warsong gear now for usd .My question is why don't the developers of perfectworld make changes make it you can't put any mold in to account stash and make it a perminate bannd for those selling accountsetc on differn't sites.
Perfectworld has to make changes this game getting way out of control you have way to many people abusing ythe game and others .And now it become that they don't want to know you if you don't fit there standards such as u must have the right armor or wepons aps etc to fit in this has caused more trouble then the game it self is worth most people i know have quit moved on to other games there disgusted in how this game has become.
Well not only the bh'swarsong,and we also have lnar now that has went to hell now ore greed when we did it years ago every one spent 500k each the mats was random now it's 500k k the on who supplys the essence gets the molds now again Greed and trust me this going to get worse then better.I refuse to do any bh runs in warsong or delta or even lunar iam tired of the abuse iam tired of the kids pushing others and also bad mouthing me because iam not a demon barb .
Thats another thing i became a sage barb first of all i don't pk or tw etc secon of all i built my barb for tanking only never had anycomplaits in the past now i get told iam no good because i don't want to do delta at spawn point or do warsong and lunar iam not demon . Sorry for the long post but i really think that if this continues most of the older players all going to leave and move on to differnt games no one wants to be abused.
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Well Delta 2-3 its relatively easy on spawn, for full I prefer the normal one...but indeed most players seems to play because they have to, thus, they try to "gets things done" as fast as possible, as it was a nuisance.
So let's wine this fb59, let's call a 101 Sin to clear FCC for a 80-90 squad, let's make an alt FCC FOR ALTS 90-99 <- LOL.....and yes let's make Delta 2 spawn point to save 5 minutes....
And games are supposed to be relaxing and fun....The only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry0 -
What choice do they have, they have to run trough everything as fast as possible to get r9 before pwi rises the power cap even higher, you cant do proper pk with hh gears anymore.We will add r9 they said... it will be fun they said...0
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Eh, Sanct troll posting a 'dislikes' thread? Meh.
But, since I don't feel like being a complete troll, I will respond.
My BM can pull Delta 3 on spawn. Third wave is about the limit I can pull, though.
IMO, doing a spawn Delta 2 or Delta 3 doesn't save any time at all. Not only do you have to run all the way there, and you're short a person until the starter gets there.
Regardless, it is an interesting challenge.
As for doing FCC, whatever, I don't bother doing things 'fast' like that. Only reason I solo FCC for myself anymore is because I can't actually find a squad.
Running an alt through FCC, hypering each boss, I get more EXP than if I were to do solo heads on that character 10 times.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
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Start your own BHs then, problem fixed.
Also wtf at molds not being stashable. Please gtfo. I pretty much only run ws/lunar on my cleric because she's needed, should I have to bring the lesser geared char that might need the mold and slow the squad down just because I can't stash the damn thing? C'mon. Stop being narrowminded.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »Start your own BHs then, problem fixed.
Also wtf at molds not being stashable. Please gtfo. I pretty much only run ws/lunar on my cleric because she's needed, should I have to bring the lesser geared char that might need the mold and slow the squad down just because I can't stash the damn thing? C'mon. Stop being narrowminded.
why dont you just shut up and go to a zoo so they can stuff you into the nearest goodies shop. players have become really greedy since the genesis expansion and maybe even prior to that. always wanting 5.0 for nirvy when it was running, to selling warsong molds over world chat like its their favorite marketing channel. If you want a mold out of warsong, go run the instance yourself with a squad who are willing to do full runs. Since the molds from warsong are bound once they are picked up, why not just make em and then sell em that might make it maybe somewhat easier.The Sure Shot that Flies Straight
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Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »why dont you just shut up and go to a zoo so they can stuff you into the nearest goodies shop. players have become really greedy since the genesis expansion and maybe even prior to that. always wanting 5.0 for nirvy when it was running, to selling warsong molds over world chat like its their favorite marketing channel. If you want a mold out of warsong, go run the instance yourself with a squad who are willing to do full runs. Since the molds from warsong are bound once they are picked up, why not just make em and then sell em that might make it maybe somewhat easier.
Also a lot of people cannot afford to get the nirvy part to actually G16 so it's alot easier said than done.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »why dont you just shut up and go to a zoo so they can stuff you into the nearest goodies shop. players have become really greedy since the genesis expansion and maybe even prior to that. always wanting 5.0 for nirvy when it was running, to selling warsong molds over world chat like its their favorite marketing channel. If you want a mold out of warsong, go run the instance yourself with a squad who are willing to do full runs. Since the molds from warsong are bound once they are picked up, why not just make em and then sell em that might make it maybe somewhat easier.
Lol hating much? Also, reading fail. You completely missed my point.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Black_wolve - Sanctuary wrote: »I wanted to say that i really dislike whats going on with perfectworld with whats been going on between the bh's and how the game it self has has changed through the years.
First of all lets start with the Bounty Hunter Quest a lot of younger players are pushing a lot of people in to doing delta on spawn point wich is not right at all what if the player don't want spawn point?the answere is then that player gets told your no good or u don't have what it takes it really seems to be a lot of abuse going on why do the gm'sput up with it? a lot of pushing going on not only with delta but with warsong a lot of players have this thing where they want to rush through it get it done fast have no care in the world about other players.
This my friends is true then as i been doing research i foud that people are only interested in warsong for the molds and they sell thease molds on differnt sites for real money this i have done months of research on not only there selling accounts but r9 and warsong gear now for usd .My question is why don't the developers of perfectworld make changes make it you can't put any mold in to account stash and make it a perminate bannd for those selling accountsetc on differn't sites.
Perfectworld has to make changes this game getting way out of control you have way to many people abusing ythe game and others .And now it become that they don't want to know you if you don't fit there standards such as u must have the right armor or wepons aps etc to fit in this has caused more trouble then the game it self is worth most people i know have quit moved on to other games there disgusted in how this game has become.
Well not only the bh'swarsong,and we also have lnar now that has went to hell now ore greed when we did it years ago every one spent 500k each the mats was random now it's 500k k the on who supplys the essence gets the molds now again Greed and trust me this going to get worse then better.I refuse to do any bh runs in warsong or delta or even lunar iam tired of the abuse iam tired of the kids pushing others and also bad mouthing me because iam not a demon barb .
Thats another thing i became a sage barb first of all i don't pk or tw etc secon of all i built my barb for tanking only never had anycomplaits in the past now i get told iam no good because i don't want to do delta at spawn point or do warsong and lunar iam not demon . Sorry for the long post but i really think that if this continues most of the older players all going to leave and move on to differnt games no one wants to be abused.
Ill start by saying i feel like **** so i skimmed what you wrote. As for RB ive seen TT99 gear Barbs tank the spawn just fine. Id rather do a RB2 at spawn any day then normal run , saves so much more time. I have no idea why anyone would yell at your for being Sage. Sage barbs are the best tankers in the game.
As for selling molds ingame that's totally normal. If a mold drops in Warsong people worldchat and have only a few mins to sell the mold. I have no idea about people selling there account but i would imagine that's rather rare. So im not sure why your QQing unless your trying to run RB with level 80 gear hmmm...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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oVenusArmanio wrote: »If you suspect someone is selling gear or accounts for real life money, please submit a ticket with proof of your claim.__ian__ - Heavens Tear wrote: »I have no idea about people selling there account but i would imagine that's rather rare. So im not sure why your QQing unless your trying to run RB with level 80 gear hmmm...
I wouldn't call it rare. Often times, you see on the forums, someone has xxx posts, but the join date is 2010 or earlier, and they ask the noobiest question possible. If a person goes through their earlier posts, it often shows up that the person has good knowledge of the game to know the answer to the question they asked. There is no way for me to confirm it.
In game, you run across players, a few months later, the same player has no idea how to play. After a bit of chit chat, turns out they bought the character.
The sites for selling accounts are easy google search to.
Practically in every case i have suspected it was a bought account, there was no proof, just a feeling. If people start sending in tickets about such feelings, lots of people will get banned for no reason. "you ganked me in two NW, *sends ticket, that player account is bought, ban the user please* b:laugh".
As for player base devolving, i play with only 2~5 players regularly for the past 1~2 years. We get random friends, people joining in to fill squads, but for most part, the core is the same. That is why i haven't noticed the change. Maybe pwi also mimics the ugly human behaviour in real iife b:chuckle.0 -
This is why proof is required.Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »Practically in every case i have suspected it was a bought account, there was no proof, just a feeling. If people start sending in tickets about such feelings, lots of people will get banned for no reason. "you ganked me in two NW, *sends ticket, that player account is bought, ban the user please* b:laugh".
As for the OP's dislikes,
Who says it's "younger players" pushing spawn? Personally, if you're just doing to 2 or 3, spawn is faster and easier. You don't need OP gear either. I take my 91 barb on Spawn all the time when a puller is needed, and my Seeker has been doing spawn runs since he was 90. (Lasts longer than some of those "Pro" 101's too.)
Second paragraph is just pointless ranting about nothing, then about selling accounts, which was covered. (Not like half the people who got high-level without buying account know how to play either.)
Third paragraph is the community. changing the game won't change the community. Not unless you revert the exp gained from hypering and then revert the game back to the days before Frost changed and BH's were around. Not going to happen. game has changed, live with it, or move on.
Fourth paragraph... Stop running on random squads, or prove to them you're worthwhile and prove them wrong. This is basically because of who you choose to run with, and reflects on the community, which was stated before.
I play a pure tank sage barb. Don't have any of your complaints. Sounds like you need better friends and a better faction. My only complaint is that I run out of coin too fast. =PTake the time to look for your answer before you post like an idiot.
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Whats the problem with spawn point delta?
I also fail to see whats problem with selling molds, they are untradeable. Of course the final product can be sold but that requires many runs for badges from seller, so well earned money. If someone want to buy stuff let them buy.
And about account selling. Who cares if someone decide to quit and gets little cash out of it. One who buys the account misses the most content of the game but if he didnt buy accoutn he would just rush to high level and buy some gears. (Most people miss the game content of low/mid level anyway by rushing to high level and unability to find squad to do stuff)
All in all, play with friends and you can run like you want.0 -
Allisandre - Sanctuary wrote: »My only complaint is that I run out of coin too fast. =P
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Spawn point delta has been done with charmless skilled tanks in the 9X level range all the way through, without having anything better than low refined TT gear. Chances are people won't want to do delta if someone has that much of an issue with spawn point, since a lvl 100+ who has difficulty with it is quite obviously not skilled. Whether that is from not doing rebirths from Gamma on (the main leveling mechanism before skill-less FCC runs), or them just being bad in general. It's just a good way to avoid the annoyance of bad players who didn't take the time to learn how to play.Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura
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lol what do you care if people sell molds for irl money? how does that affect you in any way? Let people be greedy and sell their molds that way, you're going to go through the trouble of getting them banned for not selling their molds for in game money, instead for real money? If you're going to ban someone, ban them for grieving you in-game or for scams or anything else that actually hinders your gaming.. We have one word to call people like you, that would be Nark.
Also, people complaining that you're sage is utter BS . maybe 1 or 2 people told you that, but generally sage is the better build, and anyone will tell you that.
Seems to me your issues are not with pwi but with the players. If you have a problem with your squad, leave, simple as that. What is a QQ thread about it going to do? You want people to get banned for wanting to do GV at spawn point too?0 -
Poor Xainou, I don't know why you're so misunderstood here lol.
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Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »But you can't always make your own BH. Somedays are just too dry in the player pool to start anything.
Eh, hardly. The times I had to form a wc squad because there weren't enough friends online, I can honestly say I actually ahd way too many pms. lol Sure, might be hard to find a tank/cleric sometimes but I never ran into the issue that I didn't get a squad together for bh.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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But I just have dowload the game and create a perso yesterday
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It's complaints about the playerbase that make me glad I have a core group of 15 to 20 people that I squad with at any given time. If I can't get a squad together, between my friends and I, we either wait, or they invite their friends if they are online.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I never really had problems with PWI but I do dislike the changes too. Competent players are leaving due to the childish actions of the others. At least there are tricks (or friends or both) to make you avoid these things because the reality, this game is pretty much easy to solo, as long as you get good gear at high / endgame levels then there will be no need for a squad. TT80 gold gear +8 with decent ornaments/cape is basically good enough, beyond that is pretty much overkill.
People never really complained about me ingame (at least for PVE) really or have any problems due to me using skills with timing, and I have a sage pure VIT barb too for NW farming or just to annoy people in NW.
Though this game seems to be spiraling downwards due to failed patches and lazy updates. It still lives on at least.0
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