Genie skill

I would consider it a good idea to build a Str based PvP genie around Occult Ice, and it makes for a much better alternative to Expel given you wouldn't want to stat dex on this genie and its got a lower energy cost. Holy Path is a must, and a good heal can't hurt. If you're planning to use this for NW Tangling Mire can be a good way to slow down flag bearers. You can add perhaps some chi burn (Mantle Ripple of Death) and a good anti-stun like Fortify (you'll eventually want to combo this with Feral) always helps. If you can afford to stat it Cloud Eruption is also a great option. Stay away from DD skills at your level range.

For PvE I use a dex based genie with Holy Path, Earthquake, Tree of Protection and Extreme Poison. This should be relatively easy to get at your level and you really need nothing else although Cloud Eruption would be my recomendation if you can get it.

A genie that's both for PvP and PvE is not practical until endgame, unless you're sticking to just 1 or 2 choice skills for each aplication and I would much recommend that you keep to doing two until then, this also helps in that stat requirements should go easy enough you don't have to worry much about lucky points. A high level genie is usually based on good regeneration rates although this may not prove parctical at your level as already the cost of making skills work effectively should be high enough, and you may have to add some stamina for some energu requirements.

Crescendia - Harshlands wrote: »

I once tried to see how occult Ice would do on my veno and it just didn't work out. If they are that close to me already, chances are I already used Absolute Doman/Ironguard and I'm about to die or be stunned, which makes the skill kind of useless. That's my experience on it anyways.
Very good point, but on targets you'd want to purge wouldn't the extra stun come in handy? We do get a freeze with stunning blow but that's always a gamble with melees, in my experience HA is basically the ones you want to purge, and Lucky + Pounce is not always enough to kill a target at the lower level ranges. Also, a stunned target means you can save feral, hood, IG, etc. for an extra attacker or a fight going unexpectedly longer. Also, is Absolute Domain really that useful at the lower level ranges?
Dampen Magical Curse seems fairly useless as well since anyone above lvl 75 will have no problem obtaining MP if they use the lvl 75 event pots.
You're absolutely right on this one, it's an important point I missed making.

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MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Originally Posted by Crescendia - Harshlands

I once tried to see how occult Ice would do on my veno and it just didn't work out. If they are that close to me already, chances are I already used Absolute Doman/Ironguard and I'm about to die or be stunned, which makes the skill kind of useless. That's my experience on it anyways.
Very good point, but on targets you'd want to purge wouldn't the extra stun come in handy? We do get a freeze with stunning blow but that's always a gamble with melees, in my experience HA is basically the ones you want to purge, and Lucky + Pounce is not always enough to kill a target at the lower level ranges. Also, a stunned target means you can save feral, hood, IG, etc. for an extra attacker or a fight going unexpectedly longer. Also, is Absolute Domain really that useful at the lower level ranges?
Dampen Magical Curse seems fairly useless as well since anyone above lvl 75 will have no problem obtaining MP if they use the lvl 75 event pots.
You're absolutely right on this one, it's an important point I missed making.

Sry if I fail the quote thingy T_T

I guess you could try to do like Lucky scarab ->fox form -> Occult ice -> purge+amp -> fox form -> pounce and do some damage. But again it would require a high str genie to have a higher chance to occult. I guess it works if you got that element of surprise on an offensive genie. It fits that playstyle well and im more of a defensive kind of veno. If you're dead you can't purge ^^



About absolute domain, it takes a huge chunk of affinity points so I would probably go for AD at like lvls 90+

Once you get lvl 79 u get feral concentration and combine it with a genie anti stun skill like fortify/badge of courage and it works wonders for damage immunity