Nation Wars Map To @#%@ Small

Sir_rusty - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So far about 150 players have spent a hour trying to find an open map just in this nation seen 270 players trapped in another nation your map NEEDS to be twice as big b:angryb:angryb:angryb:angry

While i agree, this issue wont be solved.
Also bigger nw map means longer travel times, they shoulve halve those too!

Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »

Err, they already have a new map with plenty more territories in use in China. Just a matter of time before it gets ported here.

b:pleased

My bad. Yeah that will be nice, but im still scared about the travel time. Also would be nice to have back exits from base too, to make locking harderb:thanks

Just don't lose and you won't get stuck b:shutup

Yeah yeah, this should be a valid reason to rage but a whole lot of people cannot even attend this ****! b:bye

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »

I like it as it is now. I can live with the long travel times, and ppls being stuck in base/can't find a battle is also somwhat tactical so why change that?

It isn't entirely tactical if every nation has people that can't get into battles. I have been in the winning nation a few times and we had battles ringing the borders, some ours and some not, but every single one full. So while we weren't stuck at base, we were still standing around and sometimes for a very long time. On HT at least, we have far more people participating than the Wars seem to be meant for.

That said, they are (have already on PWCN, from what I hear) adding lands so the OP, like the rest of us, just needs to be patient. And others don't need to be worried about the loss of this tactical advantage because, even with ten lands ringing the base, you would still be able to block a nation into that space if that's what you really wanted to do.

actualy the r9 +12 ppl who never lose a fight in nw doesnt care about the rest...

if you know what i mean, or who i mean... b:shutup

What if you dc and gets back to the base locked and 150 players there, trying to find a way to "scape" of that place?
Thats not cool at all.

btw if they double the map size and territories they can also just reduce the travel time, 15 seconds per territory, not 30.

ehh i dont know. It was pretty refreshing and fun seeing a bunch of R9 groups get stuck in their base full time yesterday b:pleased

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

From the looks of the map, the size of the map was the same, they just broke up each land more. Let's say A1 becomes A1, A2 and a bit of A3, still takes the same time to reach any of them. If they truly increased the size itself, with longer travel times, well, you win some and lose some i guess b:sad.

I hadn't looked at it like that. That would actually make a lot of sense.

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »

I like it as it is now. I can live with the long travel times, and ppls being stuck in base/can't find a battle is also somwhat tactical so why change that?

This opinion will probably last until you actually get base locked for an hour yourself, at which point you'll come on to the forums to rage like the rest of us.

Base locks are rather frustrating. It doesn't matter if you're r9r +12 and play perfectly, your nation can still perform badly or get a few unlucky battles and next thing you're getting no points for the next hour. There's no point pretending there's "strategy" in nw, there's very little coordination except perhaps in individual squads, everyone else just does what they feel like.

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Or all the r8s can stay in base and let the r9s push out the first land. If anyone made it close to your base, chances are they are not the run of the mill ****. Sending 20 ants against ant eaters isn't really the smartest move.

first come first serve b:chuckle R999 isnt epic enough to warrant player discrimination.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

first come first serve b:chuckle

Yet again the panda agrees with Decep..


Didn't realize that people were actually entitled to rewards...

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

Yet again the panda agrees with Decep..


Didn't realize that people were actually entitled to rewards...

There is nothing wrong with not letting others (better geared) open up the path. Then again... there is also nothing wrong with sitting in base for an extra 20 minutes looking at a fail defend. I had +10 r9 veno letting me carry the flag (even though she got there before I even had enter the pit) because I am faster. There were a few interceptors along the way, too bad none of them can land a fatal hit or even slow me down. A good way to send 20 people back base for 3 minutes on the first land with a 4v20 attack. Although... speaking from hindsight... I (we) could or even should drag the fight out longer.

thegreatgargame wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again.. Change the time for NW to like 5 hour earlier and this is no longer a problem

NW is currently placed at the time when server population is at it's highest. So yes, less people would get base locked because less people would be able to even attend. b:bye

Liam_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

This opinion will probably last until you actually get base locked for an hour yourself, at which point you'll come on to the forums to rage like the rest of us.

Base locks are rather frustrating. It doesn't matter if you're r9r +12 and play perfectly, your nation can still perform badly or get a few unlucky battles and next thing you're getting no points for the next hour. There's no point pretending there's "strategy" in nw, there's very little coordination except perhaps in individual squads, everyone else just does what they feel like.

I already shared my opinion in some other thread that I feel somewhat sorry for the ppl who has to suffer this sht. However, I still see this as a tactical move and If I suffer this myself I have no one to blame than myself since I could've probably done better to win the previous battle or cancel my trip to a filled battle to prevent myself to be sent back to base. So nope, I won't rage because some nation did successfully base-lock me.

I don't hope that we get a larger map but I'm afraid we can't avoid it because china got the update too. I'd rather wish different looks of battlefields. On LC server we have already many 3 vs 3 fights which don't make alot of sense (it's all just about luck, where the flag spawns, you can't organize any defense and so on).

At least on LC server locking hundreds of toons in base seems not that big problem anymore, because ppl learned that they have to spread out as long as the can to other lands, even if there is no battle atm. Till now I was 4x in worst and 2nd worst nation and never got stuck in base for more than 5mins.


I'm afraid that even less ppl will join nw in future, because the (indirect) price of supply tokens might settle down at ~150-200k each. So many ppl won't stand up for the game in middle of the night/ early morning anymore (for nw you need charms and without charm sales and ~2m coins per gold in future nw becomes less attractive for the F2Per).



Btw I read several times in forum that nw is imba because of r9/r9 3rd cast squads. That's not true imo. I saw every kind of toon/op squad in worst and best nations, unlike TW you can't predict from start which side will win. It has alot to do with luck (respawn of flag is random) and swarm intelligence (which is random too).


I also hope that we don't get less rewards (less supply tokens, or more likely, higher fees at forges) in future. But tbh I expect this, because it's pwi... they always let the extreme CSers get everything abit cheaper/faster to let alot of ppl become jealous and spend alot of money to get it too. If you plan to get e.g. ws mats, I would recommand to buy them soon... (e.g. for ws necklaces). Things might change with new map patch...