A Comprehensive Guide On Full Warsong

DivineMight - Raging Tide
DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Dungeons & Tactics
About Warsong City :
Warsong City is an old instance;that means a squad of max 6 players can enter together in this instance.It consists of 5 elemental pavilions.These are Metal,Earth,Fire,Wood and Water.There are 2 phases of completing full warsong.First phase includes defending the pavilions from wraith attack and 2nd phase includes killing the bosses.
The bosses in warsong city drop warsong emblems,warsong medals and genie exp cubes.Vile edition of the bosses drop the molds for nirvana and rank9 3rd recast equipments.But only the Vile of last boss (Vile:The Incacerate) drops molds for R9 3rd recast and nirvana 3rd recast weapons and Essence of Offences.After killing a normal boss,squad leader can talk to ‘The Attendant’ to spawn the Vile edition of that boss.Don't change the lead during killing the Vile bosses or the quest will fail and noone will get Basic Badge.


Making Squad :
A full squad of 6 players is a must for completing full warsong.Squad must have tank,healer and good damage dealing members.For example a squad may be like the following-
Tank:- Barbarian.
Healer:- Cleric.
DDs:- Assassin,Blademaster,Archer,Seeker.
It’s just an example.Venomance,wizard,psychic they all are good if they know what to do.
Warsong City resets after 4 hours.

Note- For success in full warsong it is necessary for all the squad members to be well geared and well refined.
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  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Necessary Items:
    1.HP and MP potions.
    2.HP and MP charm (if possible).
    3.Apothecary pots (if possible).


    Starting Warsong City:
    Once all are inside the instance the squad leader can talk to the NPC ‘Ginring’ to start the battle.Leader must have 12 mirrage celestones with him to aquire the quest.Talk to the NPC and take the quest ‘Start the battle for warsong’ and after that choose the 3rd option from the NPC.Every squad member then should get ‘Gem of Dark Lord’ which confirms the success of the quest.
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    First Phase-Defending Pavilions:
    Time Limit-15 minutes.

    After taking the quest the squad has 2 minutes to reach the pavilions of warsong city to protect the incarnations,located in the 5 pavilions of warsong city,from incoming wraiths’(mobs,lvl 95) attack.Talk to Warsong Gatekeeper to choose the pavilion you want to go.Read the red texts for information of the mobs.Each pavilion has different types of mobs.Also in each pavilion there is a ‘Hexhead Rider(lvl ?)’ and several ‘Flamefist Thralls(lvl ?,immune to damage)’.The rider should be lured away from the incarnation while the thralls must be avoided at any cost.So squad must decide carefully who goes to protect which pavilion.Here are the description of the pavilions-

    Pavilion of wood:-Melee mobs that casts several buffs on themselves (bramble,reduce physical damage taken,concentrate,increased defense,increased physical attack etc.).Any good assassin or blademaster can solo this pavilion.The mobs here sometimes explode when they die causing a 80-90% damage of your max HP.This happens when they say ‘Let’s die together’.It can cause instant death if you are running a bit low in HP.So keep distance when they say it.Also when they cast bramble,avoid hitting them because the bramble is too powerful.It's a small pavilion so be careful.

    Pavilion of earth:- Easiest pavilion.Melee mobs that cast buffs on themselves.Long pavilion makes this easier.Generally assassin,blademaster or barbarian can solo it.If barbarian has problem then he can duo it with anyone.Some mobs here also explodes when they die.

    Pavilion of metal:- Tough and small pavilion.Ranged attack mobs.They also cast buffs and might explode.A melee DD cannot be able to do this pavilion because mobs will always try to run away.Have an archer or a ranged DD solo this pavilion.Wizard,psychic or venomancer can easily solo this pavilion.

    Pavilion of fire:- Easiest pavilion for a ranged DD.Long pavilion.Mobs are ranged and they can cast buffs.They also may explode.Any ranged DD can solo this pavilion with ease.Even a good cleric can solo it.

    Pavilion of water:- May be the hardest pavilion to defend.Three times the mobs compared to other pavilion come here.Mobs here can cast purge on player often.They also cast buffs on themselves.A seeker is good for this pavilion.Again a good blademaster or wizard can solo it.

    Tips- When the mobs started coming in each pavilion you need to hit the Hexhead Rider to catch it's aggro.Then you can start killing the incoming mobs.The rider moves very slowly so you should be able to avoid it.Keep hitting the rider on regular interval so that it can’t reset.You can also stun,slow,freeze or sleep the rider.Just make sure the rider doesn't get too close to you (it hits very hard and take significantly less damages).After killing all mobs in the pavilion simply jump off the pavilion.It will take you to the starting area.

    Changes - As per PWI:New Horizons the Hexhead Rider is now equipped with a new ability called 'Spitting'.When it casts spitting on you,a green circle pops up below your position.The circle deals damage over time (from 2k-5k depending on your gears) as long as you stay on it.Simply leave the circle as quickly as you can to avoid fatal damages.

    Important- To face the last boss ‘The Incacerate’ it is mandatory that all the five incarnations in the 5 pavilions be saved and none of the pavilion has a score of 0(zero).That means if you can't kill all the mobs in a pavilion but protect the incarnation from being destroyed by the mobs you will still face the last boss.Just be sure your pavilion score is not 0.The score for each pavilion is capped at 180 (90mobs X 2 points for water pavilion and 30mobs X 6 points for others).So you can score 900 maximum if you manage to kill all mobs in all pavilions.However you also need a combined score of 800+ to face the last boss,so always track your scores.You can view the scores on each pavilion by pressing Q and selecting the quest "Protect Clearstream".
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Second Phase-Killing The Bosses :
    Time Limit: Until the instance resets.

    At the starting area talk to Warsong Gatekeeper to go to ‘The Heart of the City’.From here you can go to any pavilion by killing all the mobs on the way.The mobs will spawn after 1-2 minutes.Before killing the boss at any pavilion,all the mobs on the way must be killed.If even one mob survives and you engage the boss before killing it,the boss will hit for 50k in his each hit (that means squad wipeout).

    Pavilion of metal:- Mobs in this pavilion are dinos,blades and runners.Dinos do aoe magic attack,blades can seal and runners seal almost every time.It’s a small pavilion so mobs wont be a problem.Just be careful of the sacrificial attack dinos.Boss in this pavilion is Snakefist Guardian.It’s a pretty strong boss.It does aoe magic attack often which increases with time.Cleric should cast Regeneration Aura (Blue Bubble/BB) and barbarian should tank.Assassin can tank too but he needs to be careful a lot.This boss can easily one shot any squishy member.Vile:Snakefist Guardian is quite straight-forward.But it can transform players into frogs,casts aura that absorbs healing and stuns often.So cleric should BB in a distance to avoid stuns.It drops Nirvana and R9 3rd recast boot molds.

    Pavilion of earth:- Mobs here can cast immobilization on player.So for safety many mobs should not be pulled together.Boss in this pavilion is Shadowskull Lich.It’s more like General Wurlord in Twilight Temple.You need to kill it 4 times.Each time it dies,several mobs spawns at boss’ location.After you kill the mobs the boss reappears.Vile:Shadowskull Lich is quite simple too except it does a fairly large amount of melee damage.It drops R9 3rd recast belt molds and Nirvana 3rd recast helmet and cape molds.

    Pavilion of fire:- Mobs here do aoe fire attacks and interrupts skills.So killing them in small groups might be necessary.Boss in this pavilion is Cannonfist Orclord.It does massive melee damage to aggro holder,hence barbarian should tank this boss.If you take a bit more time to kill the boss,it will pause for few seconds and launch a massive AOE mana drain.Even a cleric with a mana charm can face trouble at this point.So squad members should be aware if the BB drops.Vile:Cannonfist Orclord starts with a buff of increased physical attack.Barbarian needs to hold the boss until his buff wears off or a venomancer can purge the boss if the squad has one or player can use any weapon with a chance to purge hoping it will trigger on boss.Once the buff is gone he can be killed quite easily.It drops R9 and Nirvana 3rd recast bracer molds.

    Pavilion of water:- Mobs here are maids,ghouls etc.Maids should be killed first because they can inflict a water DOT bubble on player that does massive damage.Mobs in this pavilion are the toughest.So killing each group of mobs individually might be required.Boss in this pavilion is Obscure Reaper.It can cause AOE seal,freeze and water DOT on players.Also it does a fairly good amount of melee damage.Ranged aggro on this boss should be avoided as then it will cast seal and water DOT very often on players.Vile: Obscure Reaper stuns all squad members as soon as it spawns.The stun remains for quite a long but it can be dodged by tripple sparking or using Absolute Domain genie skill.Barbarian should tank this boss for safety.It drops R9 and Nirvana 3rd recast leggings molds.

    Pavilion of wood:- Mobs here are magus,araneids etc.They can cast slow and extreme poison on players.So pulling few mobs might help avoiding any trouble.Boss here is Pestilent Destroyer.He does good amount of melee damage so for safety barbarian should hold the aggro.He can also cast seal.Vile: Pestilent Destroyer can be a tough boss if squad takes more time to kill it.As soon as it spawns it casts Reduce Max HP on close ranged players (60-70% reduction I guess) which should be purified by tripple sparking.It can also cast purge on any random player(mostly aggro holder).Often it’s aggro resets and at that time he intends to stun and hit the cleric.So cleric should BB here and be prepared for any incoming danger.This boss drops R9 and Nirvana 3rd recast chestplate molds.

    Note- Mobs in the pavilion cast various skills (positive skills on themselves,negative skills on players) like occult ice,dissolve,extreme poison,tangling mire,wind shield,elemental weekness etc.(all are genie skills)Almost every bosses cast enrage and goes frenzy.

    Changes - Mobs in pavilion of metal can now knockback players.Snakefist Guardian now summons a group of small dinos (Tunneldigger Thrall) around a random player.The dinos are not that dangerous,just a couple of AOEs should wipe them off.Cannonfist Orclord has some changes if you take long time to kill it.(I could not figure it out because in our case he died fairly quickly)

    Mobless warsong boss run - It's a new trend of doing full warsong which involves skipping the pavilion mobs and killing the boss directly.It's a very quick way to farm badges and molds.You can face 5 bosses or 6 bosses depending on your choice of saving the pavilions (1st phase).Anyway the 5 bosses in each pavilion are the main challenge in mobless warsong.Remember though your squad needs to be very powerful and balanced to be successful.So make your squad accordingly.Here I will just try to explain how I did it with my faction squads.
    After the 1st phase teleport to the pavilion of fire before the pavilion mobs spawn.Make the cleric cast Regeneration Aura (BB) at a safe place away from other mobs and lure the boss into it.As you didn't kill the pavilion mobs,the boss will enter rampage mode hitting 50k each hit and purging aggro holder.So make sure the aggro holder has immunity potions/pills and Absolute Domain ready.Also time the tripple spark accordingly to get some extra seconds of immunity.By using genie skills and sparks perfectly you can have upto 7-10 seconds of immunity whereas using potions/pills with them can grant you upto 20 seconds of immunity.This should be enough to take down the boss.Just keep in mind that timing is paramount here.So if the aggro holder misses by slightest margin,that could end up being a squad-wipe.Also the bosses aggro tends to reset sometimes,so other members must be careful of it too.
    After killing the boss,jump off the pavilion and use the NPC to teleport to pavilion of earth.Again timing is needed here.Make someone count to 3 and teleport altogether.Keep immunity skills ready so that the boss can't one-shot you.After killing the 1st Shadowskull Lich,the rest of his forms will act normal so you won't have problem killing them.
    After it again jump off and wait at the teleport NPC.Make the assassins go to heart of the city and from there near the Snakefist Guardian boss (using invisibility of course).Assassins should kill the group of mobs near the boss' location.Then when the boss moves to the far end he/they will tell others to teleport.When everyone gets there,kill the boss like others.
    Next the assassins should go through the pavilion of wood to Pestilent Destroyer.The boss wanders in a circle here,so when he is far from the pavilion mobs tell everyone to teleport from the NPC.After killing him assassins need to go to the last pavilion that is the pavilion of water.Kill the last group of mobs near the boss' location.Obscure Reaper also circles in an area but the circle is quite small.So when he moves far be quick to teleport or if you catch aggro try to jump off the pavilion and try again.When the group is assembled kill the boss by methods described above.
    After all the bosses are killed,use the NPC at the last pavilion to teleport to The Incacerate.
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Last Boss-The Incacerate:
    After killing all the bosses a NPC will appear at your last pavilion (or it may appear at the end of each pavilion,I am not sure) with the quest ‘Confront Incacerate’ with him.Take this quest and you will be teleported to the incarcerate.You can also take this quest from Warsong Gatekeeper at the beginning of warsong city.This boss is probably the nastiest boss in whole PWI.It spawn lesser version of previous bosses as it’s HP goes down.If you don’t kill the spawns quickly,the squad will suffer massive debuffs and attacks from the boss.The minions and the consequences of killing them late are-
    1.Withered Mummy - When you engage the boss – Seal and interrupts BB.
    2.Octopus Headharvester - At around 4.6m HP of boss – Freeze,reduce attack speed and channeling speed of players.
    3.Snakefist Judge - At around 3.6m HP of boss – Boss will become an APS monster(4 or 5 APS I guess).
    4.Blazefist Orc - At around 2.4m HP of boss – AOE purge.
    5.Storm Necromancer - At around 1.2m of boss – Boss goes frenzy and launches a massive AOE depending on how much time you take to kill the minion.
    If you manage to kill the minions quickly then the boss will go easy.Else it might take like forever and even you could face squad wipeout.The tactic here is the barbarian holds the aggro;cleric casts BB and blademaster,assassin and other DDs be always prepare to kill the minions as soon as they appear.All the minions can cast reduce melee damage taken buff on them.A quick blademaster can stun them to prevent them from buffing.A ranged or mage DD is always useful in killing those minions.
    Also when the boss goes APS or frenzy barbarian should hold the boss until it’s buff wears off.A veno can purge boss if the team has one or any member can use weapon with chance to purge and hope it will trigger soon on boss.
    One addition to the new Sirens of War update was while killing The Incacerate,anytime 3 incarnations appear near the boss and you are told to kill them quickly so that the boss can't escape.The objective here is to kill only the incarnation that looks different among those 3.You have 60 seconds to do it.The incarnations are lvl 105 mobs so it won't be a problem killing the different one.But if you don't kill the different incarnation in 60 seconds the boss will disappear and you will fail.If you kill the wrong incarnation you will be given another chance to kill the right one after a while.
    Previously The Incacerate dropped Warsong Waistband Inscriptions (tradable) but after the update it now drops Warsong Inscriptions (untradable).The warsong belts made from these untradable inscriptions are also untradable.
    Vile: The Incacerate is quite easy.It does nothing too scary except it almost always has an increased physical defence buff on itself.Cleric should BB and squad member can kill it easily.It drops R9 and Nirvana 3rd recast weapon molds and Essence of Offence.


    Abbreviations:
    NPC-Non Playing Character.
    DD-Damage Dealer.
    AOE-Area of Effect.
    DOT-Damage Over Time.
    HP-Hit Point.
    APS-Attack Per Second.

    That’s it from me.Hope it will help people.Thanks and any advice or suggestion is welcomed.
  • BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    bah, too early
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Note- For success in full warsong it is necessary for all the squad members to be well geared and well refined.

    Hate to be nitpicky, but i don't like the word choice here. With current word choice i will say not true. Warsong only requries 5 people, people go with 6 because it is easier. Pavilion mobs only need 2~3 dd's. Often just my bm, and friend's sin, clear fire, while people are getting buffed, running back.

    May need one or two well refined people, but if you don't have a well refined people, include a veno, that veno will save you.
    Pavilion of wood:-.Any assassin or blademaster can solo this pavilion.

    I would like to clarify, a really high dd person is needed for wood. Having a low refined weapon as a bm, sin will not cut it here. Any caster can do this as well, but as said before, requires high dd. So put your highest dps person in here, or highest dph.

    Water, easiest pavillion, unless you get purged. Only reason why water is difficult, because it has twice as many mobs, so twice as likely to get purged. Person soloing this pavilion should be able to do it with self buffs, or have the 6th person help here if other pavilions are safe.

    Number 3 effect = aps, if there are purging weapons, use them, if you have a veno, purge it. If the squad is low dd, a veno will make this run ultra smooth for you, and a psy. The boss can get purged by veno, and group members can get aoe purified by psyb:chuckle

    I'll add more of my comments when i read it again in more detail :).

    Would you mind if i steal this and post in the bm forums? We are debating on the marrow use for each element pavillion, mobs, boss, advanced bosses, so people know what to expect.
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Thanks for your comment.What I meant with well geared and well refined is not like +6 to +10 in every gear.I meant members should have quite nice HP and dps so that they can avoid any trouble or make the run a really long one.
    For wood pavilion,I gave bm or sin as an example,not a mandatory choice.It's up to the team to decide who goes to defend which pavilion.Hope you will understand. :)
    Laslty I won't mind if you post it somewhere else as long as you keep my name as author.
  • krisnda
    krisnda Posts: 4,655 Community Moderator
    edited October 2012
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Krisnda wrote: »
    Good work sir :3

    I am glad that you appreciated my work. :)
  • topsas
    topsas Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    this guide is out of date, would be nice to have updated one
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    topsas wrote: »
    this guide is out of date, would be nice to have updated one

    Wow b:chuckle, it is only missing the change from the siren's of war update. Most people have figured out how easy that is. Beside that, still the best warsong guide.
  • yuhanz
    yuhanz Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Can someone tell me, are the awakened set soul bound (not tradable) ? same questions go for Nirvana Weapons

    1 is it soul bound even if I use HolyMoon-nirvana?
    2 or will it not be soul bound anymore even if I use DD-nirvana?
    3 if it is soul bound, can it still be shared on the same account storage?
    4 is the Awakened Weapon really fixed with +40 attack rating and three more additional stats?

    please enlighten me because we are way behind PWI in terms of game patch and I would like to be more prepared so as to plan for my gears. I am from PW-PH btw. thanks :3
  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    yuhanz wrote: »
    Can someone tell me, are the awakened set soul bound (not tradable) ? same questions go for Nirvana Weapons

    1 is it soul bound even if I use HolyMoon-nirvana?
    2 or will it not be soul bound anymore even if I use DD-nirvana?
    3 if it is soul bound, can it still be shared on the same account storage?
    4 is the Awakened Weapon really fixed with +40 attack rating and three more additional stats?

    please enlighten me because we are way behind PWI in terms of game patch and I would like to be more prepared so as to plan for my gears. I am from PW-PH btw. thanks :3

    1 I assume you mean Lunar Glade? It remains unbound.

    2 I think it will still be unbound if you g16 it. You do not need tailor or blacksmith skill to change a g15 to a g16

    3 It can still be account stashed

    4 Yes. +40 and 3 randoms, for example my bow has +1 crit +1 atk lvl and +mp. I plan to reroll the stats. Reroll cost is 20 badges and 1 essence of offense (from WS final boss) for weapons. 8 badge and 1 essence of defense (From Lunar Glade last boss) for armors.
    Ring Engraving/Amulet Carving Guide - pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1174451

    Retired from PWI.

    b:bye
  • yuhanz
    yuhanz Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1 I assume you mean Lunar Glade? It remains unbound.

    2 I think it will still be unbound if you g16 it. You do not need tailor or blacksmith skill to change a g15 to a g16

    3 It can still be account stashed

    4 Yes. +40 and 3 randoms, for example my bow has +1 crit +1 atk lvl and +mp. I plan to reroll the stats. Reroll cost is 20 badges and 1 essence of offense (from WS final boss) for weapons. 8 badge and 1 essence of defense (From Lunar Glade last boss) for armors.

    1 yes I meant Lunar Glade. can you give me ss of Awakened weapons if you're not sure?
    2 what if I turn a weapon from TT to nirvana-TT(which would be bound account-bound), and then I upgrade it to Awakened, will it lose it's status as bound? or remain account-bound?
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Currently i cant concentrate on updating this guide coz i m having my xams.Once i finish my xams,i will do full warsong and update this guide according to the changes made.
    BTW,i dont think it outdated.It still gives u infos u need to know and as far as i heard only the techniques of killing last boss is changed.
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
    yuhanz wrote: »
    1 yes I meant Lunar Glade. can you give me ss of Awakened weapons if you're not sure?
    2 what if I turn a weapon from TT to nirvana-TT(which would be bound account-bound), and then I upgrade it to Awakened, will it lose it's status as bound? or remain account-bound?

    No. Binding status remains the same even if you improve your equipment.

    So unbound equipment remains unboud after you upgrade it.

    bind upon equip items will still bind upon equip after you upgrade it.

    bound items remain bound.

    The only exception to this is the JR belt I believe.

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  • yuhanz
    yuhanz Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    No. Binding status remains the same even if you improve your equipment.

    So unbound equipment remains unboud after you upgrade it.

    bind upon equip items will still bind upon equip after you upgrade it.

    bound items remain bound.

    The only exception to this is the JR belt I believe.

    I LV U THANKS FOR THE INFO! b:dirty b:thanks
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The only exception to this is the JR belt I believe.

    G14 belt is bound, 15 and 16 become unbound. New warsong belt is non tradeable, essentially means they are bound. Even though all previous versions are tradeable. The sky cover and cube neck are still tradeable.
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Guide is updated according to Sirens of War changes.Thanks.
  • Salianacaste - Harshlands
    Salianacaste - Harshlands Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    For success in full warsong it is necessary for all the squad members to be well geared and well refined.


    well that wont be me.ive recently been **** but as a cleric im more focusd on living so i have over 100 vit that way i get health and defence. but for being well refined thats the problem. no matter what i do i can never get past +1 unless i use an orb. even one time for refineing the item for the first time i got 10 fails in a row
  • kamukaze
    kamukaze Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    hi
    i made some testruns with my friends. we could defend our pavilons but at my pavilon 2 mob left when this quest ended, so npc survived but not all mobs died. it failed or last boss will be stronger this way?
    2nd:
    my guild plan to do some runs but our mystic need badges on her sin. its possible to defend a pavilon with her mystic then when 15 min is over switch to her assassin?

    thanks for asnwer
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hi,if u can defend ur incarnations in ur pavilion from being destroyed by the mobs,u will face the last boss.The difficulty of last boss doesn't depend on the 1st phase (pavilion defending phase).But if u fail to defend a single incarnation last boss won't appear.
    Secondly,it is possible to switch character after the 1st phase.So if ur friend defends the pavilion with her mystic and then comes back as her sin it won't affect the instance or quest.Hope i answered ur question.
  • kamukaze
    kamukaze Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It helped a lot. Now its time to spam warsong runs:)
    Thanks again
  • Staryu - Dreamweaver
    Staryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm curious about the water boss. Is the aoe frontal only?

    I've noticed he doesn't aoe bubble when someone is inside the structure in the middle. Is it just coincidence and I just got lucky each time that happened, or is there some sort of strategy against him?
  • Fissile - Archosaur
    Fissile - Archosaur Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    kamukaze wrote: »
    hi
    i made some testruns with my friends. we could defend our pavilons but at my pavilon 2 mob left when this quest ended, so npc survived but not all mobs died. it failed or last boss will be stronger this way?
    2nd:
    my guild plan to do some runs but our mystic need badges on her sin. its possible to defend a pavilon with her mystic then when 15 min is over switch to her assassin?

    thanks for asnwer

    Look at the quest tracker. On each pavilion you can score up to 180 points. The water pavilion has 90 mobs for 2 points each. The other pavilions each have 30 mobs for 6 points each. To face the incacerate the total score from all pavilions must be at least 800 out of 900 possible. If the NPC dies on any pavilion the score for that pavilion is reset to 0 and you can therefore not achieve 800 points total.





    I also wanted to add a comment about the Storm Necromancer add to the Incacerate boss. At or near the point where you kill it (right before or after it dies) all members in the party are hit with a massive earth damage AoE. The AoE does roughly 6000 damage to arcane classes, 10k to light armor classes, and 15-20k damage to heavy armor classes. This is exacerbated by the fact that the necromancer spawns after the cannon mob purges the squad repeatedly. This is enough to kill just about anyone if they are not in BB (reduces damage by 50%). The big exception is wizards with stone barrier. With sage stone barrier I have close to 30k earth defense. Many times I have been the lone survivor of this AoE in my squad desperately trying to survive long enough for the squad to return so Incacerate doesn't reset.* An alternative is to not kill the Storm Necromancer and just finish off the Incacerate so the AoE never happens.

    I always carry defense charms (link) and give one to the tank before starting. This will cut the earth damage by 50%. The tank should activate it when the storm necromancer spawns. It wouldn't hurt for the entire squad to use these. They aren't that expensive and it beats having to start the Incacerate all over due to a squad wipe.



    * My strategy for survival here is Mystic Armor Charm (50% physical damage reduce for 1 hit), Take 1 hit, Expel for 10s and kite/eat HP food reapplying armor charm after cooldown, take another hit, HP food then immediately Ironguard Powder for 12s, Expel for 10s again while using armor charm and HP food as needed, then do your best to kite it until someone else gets back.


    At this point I have done so many Warsong runs it seems routine but I am sure there are more tips that beginners should know.
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  • STrickeeN - Harshlands
    STrickeeN - Harshlands Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    awesome i was looking for a guide eventhough i cant join warsong party yet is good to be aware
  • OOo_Dee_oOo - Archosaur
    OOo_Dee_oOo - Archosaur Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    b:victory nice.. ^-^ so far best guide i read ... tyvm for sharing b:pleased
  • DivineMight - Raging Tide
    DivineMight - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Guide is updated and i added the mobless warsong mini guide to it.Thanks.
  • ZentDreigon - Raging Tide
    ZentDreigon - Raging Tide Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Excelent guide! My only complain would be that blue font. Hurts the eyes. b:faint Other than that, great job! b:victory
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Few comments about your update :)
    After the 1st phase teleport to the pavilion of fire before the pavilion mobs spawn.Make the cleric cast Regeneration Aura (BB) at a safe place away from other mobs and lure the boss into it.

    Since the boss does 50k damage anyway. BB is useless. Clerics can best debuf/DD on the mobless bosses. Healing is totally pointless. It doesnt even matter if you attack a mobless boss with only 5% of your HPs. Its all or nothing anyway.

    The important thing for mobless is to know who is going to have agro and who is going to be tanking it. This is ofcourse the one with the biggest damage output. All other should be carefull not to attack before him. If other DDs have a damage output very close to the one who is supposed to be tanking, it is advisable to wait a fraction extra (wait is a big word, just clock slowly instead of asap when you see the tank starting his attacks)

    The very first hit from the mobless boss is not lethal. So you can first agro the boss and take a hit, then spark. For me as a barb for example i approach in tiger, I devour, stand up, spark. (then AD-IG) It is most convenient if the tank attacks first (and sparks first) but it is not needed. Many sins who out DD me prefer me to approach first anyway. In that case do the same, but after sparking do not attack the boss yet. Stand on a different side from the boss than the tank sin, wait until you see the boss turn to the sin, or you hear the sins dagger attack, then attack. While if the sin is really fast you might not need AD, it is advisable to still use it. IG is of course not needed now if you wont be tanking.

    Nowadays with the rebirths war avatars etc, any squad with a BM and 1 other APS DD can do mobless if both the BM and other APS DD are G16+10 or better. 3 +10 APS DDs and a veno+archer can do it without BM. 4APS DDs can do it without any debuffers.
    Some sins tank without using IG most of the time. Instead they use their evasions skills and deaden nerves. The boss will mostly miss, if he hits, deaden goes off, and then you can still use AD-IG if needed. In that case you want to kill the boss even faster than the 20s you get from spark-AD-IG. The faster you kill it now, the less chance IG will be needed.
    .Obscure Reaper also circles in an area but the circle is quite small.So when he moves far be quick to teleport or if you catch aggro try to jump off the pavilion and try again.

    The one who is checking if it is safe should say "now" (or safe, but that portrais the wrong meaning) when the boss is closest to the player spawn point. The players at NPC should have their mouse ready and only click right when he sais now, never later. If you werent ready to click, dont think you can click till you see "not safe", instead wait for the next round. I tried to make everyone stop saying "safe" at water because it has the wrong meaning. There is no start and end to the safe period, there is only a safe moment.
    Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.