Bots in Pwi

Jaabg - Sanctuary
Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
edited December 2012 in General Discussion
I came across a bot in pwi. I reported the person with screenshots. But i was curious, how do you find out if a person is a bot and not a miffed player? Once you find out the person is a bot, what guidelines should be followed to report them?

In my case, the other person did not reply to me. They went after herbs in a specific order. If two different herbs spawn next to each other, i would dig those and move to the one that is a bit away. This person went for the 1 herb close by, ignored the 2nd herb right next to it, went for the 3rd herb that was far away, and came back for the 2nd herb. I thought, maybe this person has some form of OCD in farming.

When our paths crossed again, i started digging the herb before the person did. They flew in and stood above me while i dug the herb. The person stayed for the same duration it takes to dig a herb. That got me very suspicious.

Next herb i started digging, person came in to dig. I cancelled and started digging again. Cancelled at 80%, dug again. Effectively i kept that herb spawned for 2 minutes, but not digging it. The other person stood there trying to dig for 2 minute. Same thing happened for the next 3 herbs in a row, that is 8 minutes, most people would send some message, insult, wc thing. This player had no response. To me that shows the person was a bot the way they dug the herbs.
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  • SkogDyr - Lost City
    SkogDyr - Lost City Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I came across a bot in pwi. I reported the person with screenshots. But i was curious, how do you find out if a person is a bot and not a miffed player? Once you find out the person is a bot, what guidelines should be followed to report them?

    In my case, the other person did not reply to me. They went after herbs in a specific order. If two different herbs spawn next to each other, i would dig those and move to the one that is a bit away. This person went for the 1 herb close by, ignored the 2nd herb right next to it, went for the 3rd herb that was far away, and came back for the 2nd herb. I thought, maybe this person has some form of OCD in farming.

    When our paths crossed again, i started digging the herb before the person did. They flew in and stood above me while i dug the herb. The person stayed for the same duration it takes to dig a herb. That got me very suspicious.

    Next herb i started digging, person came in to dig. I cancelled and started digging again. Cancelled at 80%, dug again. Effectively i kept that herb spawned for 2 minutes, but not digging it. The other person stood there trying to dig for 2 minute. Same thing happened for the next 3 herbs in a row, that is 8 minutes, most people would send some message, insult, wc thing. This player had no response. To me that shows the person was a bot the way they dug the herbs.


    I wish the GM button in game was working but for now... all you can do is send in a ticket and hope something gets done. Don't expect anything to happen but at least you did your part.
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  • iexze
    iexze Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Send in a ticket, no idea how to find out if they get banned or not though.

    Also read: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1529671
  • krisnda
    krisnda Posts: 4,655 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    I wish the GM button in game was working but for now... all you can do is send in a ticket and hope something gets done. Don't expect anything to happen but at least you did your part.

    I'll be looking into this.
  • SkogDyr - Lost City
    SkogDyr - Lost City Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Krisnda wrote: »
    I'll be looking into this.

    Thanks... It would be nice to have the GM button working. Now, it just needs to used only as a 911 button and not a "someone made me mad" button. b:chuckle
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  • iexze
    iexze Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I thought it did work but GM's are always busy :s
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I came across a bot in pwi. I reported the person with screenshots. But i was curious, how do you find out if a person is a bot and not a miffed player? Once you find out the person is a bot, what guidelines should be followed to report them?

    In my case, the other person did not reply to me. They went after herbs in a specific order. If two different herbs spawn next to each other, i would dig those and move to the one that is a bit away. This person went for the 1 herb close by, ignored the 2nd herb right next to it, went for the 3rd herb that was far away, and came back for the 2nd herb. I thought, maybe this person has some form of OCD in farming.

    When our paths crossed again, i started digging the herb before the person did. They flew in and stood above me while i dug the herb. The person stayed for the same duration it takes to dig a herb. That got me very suspicious.

    Next herb i started digging, person came in to dig. I cancelled and started digging again. Cancelled at 80%, dug again. Effectively i kept that herb spawned for 2 minutes, but not digging it. The other person stood there trying to dig for 2 minute. Same thing happened for the next 3 herbs in a row, that is 8 minutes, most people would send some message, insult, wc thing. This player had no response. To me that shows the person was a bot the way they dug the herbs.

    Sometime when I farm herbs in Momaganon I do that, I farm tiery,tiery,devil,devil...etc and finish by the white berry and second white berry, that make me sure I didn't forget some and sure they all spawned, anyway on the run I do I always end to wait them to appear so yea, I'm just weird and do it that way and I'm not a bot, I don't pm other people farming herb to insult them cause the herbs are my propriety.

    I don't know why people thinking someone is a bot will say as reason ''the person didn't rage'', not everyone in game is like that to rage at everything. I know some people so shy in game that you could insult them for 30 minutes and they wont rage or answer cause to shy or sometime it's just the language, some people don't speak English, so if you pm in English they wont answer, I personally don't answer when people pm me in polish, german or spanish, I just ignore them and continue my thing.

    The other day I was farming mats (charcoal, high grade lumber ...etc), someone was pming me in Spanish, I ignored him and continued to dig my stuff, at my other ''run'' he was still there and pmed me again in Spanish and I ignored him again continuing to dig my stuff.

    Ofc I don't say to don't send tickets, but just cause someone doesn't answer a pm doesn't mean it's a bot.

    The ''OCD in farming herbs'' made me lol. XD
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Sometime when I farm herbs in Momaganon I do that, I farm tiery,tiery,devil,devil...etc and finish by the white berry and second white berry, that make me sure I didn't forget some and sure they all spawned, anyway on the run I do I always end to wait them to appear so yea, I'm just weird and do it that way and I'm not a bot, I don't pm other people farming herb to insult them cause the herbs are my propriety.

    The ''OCD in farming herbs'' made me lol. XD

    That is why i am wary of reporting someone as a bot, but in this specific instance the flight path was way too precise, there was no searching, there were herbs on the map that required movement in that direction for them to be visible, but this person went straight for it.

    I used to do it like that as well, tiery tiery, white white, after some time i grew tired of that and turned on system message in my chat to show what i picked up. This way i could talk with faction, friends and not worry about missing stuff. Farming herbs is boring.

    I have met a few shy people in the game, and it takes amazing effort on their part to talk to someone, this case just felt different. It was the cancelling of a herb that made me very curious and lean towards the direction that i might be dealing with a bot.

    Worst case i am wrong, and i hope i am, would hate to inconvenience another player over different playing styles.

    The GM button b:chuckle, i can only begin to imagine the requests they would be dealing with. Also embrace and report hacking are just above each other, i am sure there are lots of players who have reported their partners as hackers in the effort of carrying them, but the partner being too heavy, couldn't carry them b:avoid.
  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I see bots in Heaven and Hell every time I'm there, and run across them on and off there and in the world farming herbs. Pretty much same scenarios.

    I stopped reporting them years ago. I tried a few more times earlier this year, still nothing. I actually saw the same Sins consistently in Heaven cause I kept getting the same quest out there.

    (Of note, I dont report them on this or another one of my accounts...because I don't want the CS rep to temp ban me again because he can't be bothered to read the ticket - I suggest you do the same if if has nothing to do with your account)

    I ran into the same issue with reporting scam shops. There is always someone selling Lunar mats as Vit stones on HT. I've screen shooted and reported it twice now, the guy was always there - even in the same spot, 5 days later after I get the thank you reply from the CS reps. And I know Im not the only one reporting it either. I could probably check all the usual spots and still find the shop right now.

    Luckily we don't have a bad bot problem overall compared to other games, though.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I see bots in Heaven and Hell every time I'm there, and run across them on and off there and in the world farming herbs. Pretty much same scenarios.

    I stopped reporting them years ago. I tried a few more times earlier this year, still nothing. I actually saw the same Sins consistently in Heaven cause I kept getting the same quest out there.

    (Of note, I dont report them on this or another one of my accounts...because I don't want the CS rep to temp ban me again because he can't be bothered to read the ticket - I suggest you do the same if if has nothing to do with your account)

    I ran into the same issue with reporting scam shops. There is always someone selling Lunar mats as Vit stones on HT. I've screen shooted and reported it twice now, the guy was always there - even in the same spot, 5 days later after I get the thank you reply from the CS reps. And I know Im not the only one reporting it either. I could probably check all the usual spots and still find the shop right now.

    Luckily we don't have a bad bot problem overall compared to other games, though.

    Tickets work fast for stuff that concern our char, ex: I bought a ocean orb and didn't get the event card, normally they fix it fast, but i realize that when you report someone else for ****/scam/or w/e they do nothing most of the time.

    I do undertsand that when we report someone they don't tell us the punishement, but when you report the same person many time for the same ''****'' and you still see the person in game continuing to do it even after weeks and months, there's reason to doubt they care about us reporting hacker.
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  • y4kuzi
    y4kuzi Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    lol, this again. b:laugh
  • Imafoxyfox - Heavens Tear
    Imafoxyfox - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    kill them
  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I just sent one on a bott last week....

    who was drop gathering from its kills ( ((b:irritated)) ) for 4 DAYS+ Straight at the same friggen spot!!b:shocked


    Worst part was It kept drop stealing from me every friggen time...b:surrender


    So I turned in a ticket on it and Woohaaaaa no more BOTTb:pleased



    TY {PWe~ Staffers & GMs} for Prompt & quickly decisive actions.....b:victory
  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    a month or so on sanctuary, a friend of mine told me to come see something funny.
    I meet them south of etherblade and see a lv 40 sin with npc gear flying around killing the flying snake mobs, but then i notice they are dying too fast. then i look closer, and i see its not a sin, its 6 female sins, all identical appearance and gear, similiar hoeish names, flying almost exact same place, towards exact same mob, picking drops, moving on. we also see a barb afk above them, lv 30, npc gear, named wth pimp in it. my lv 100 sin friend inventory checks the barb, its full of low level dq (was before nerf) and tons and tons of fruit. I decide to have some fun, so i follow the sins around, my wings being faster then the default sin wings, and i shoot their targets right before they reach them. when the mobs i shot didnt drop anything, the sins moved on, but when they dropped, the sins all froze next to the drop, trying to pick it up. also knocking back a mob with an npc bow caused them to split up onto 2 mobs, but later they came back together. i messed with them for awhile like that, freezing them and taking drops, but since im a human, not a computer program, i gave up and went away, letting the pimp barb continue to collect $ from its hoes.
    later, we spotted a catshop next to north archo pet hatcher person selling 2000 fruit for a slightly lower price then all the other shops
    2000 fruit?b:surrender
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  • Soul_Ripper_ - Harshlands
    Soul_Ripper_ - Harshlands Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    kill bot, get red time, lol, rinse and repeat
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  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    When in doubt, let the GM sort it out.

    Send them tickets like they was confetti at a clown's birthday party!

    When someone is obviously botting & never gets banned OR returns from bans many times, it takes all of 5 seconds to wonder how much zen they charged.

    And then kill it.
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