Veno with or without vit points?

miaukika wrote: »

i have a 90 veno and i was thinking about buy a reset note.
she has 5dex, 50 str, 87 vit and 323 mag. i think she has too much vit. idk if i should go pure mag (only 5 vit) or let her with about 30 vit.

what do u think? whats the best for a veno? with or without vit?

tyvm for your answer

My veno is 96, she is pure magic. I mostly solo BHs, grind TT, and do Morei dailies with her; I have found the emphasis on MAG benefits me more than than having any points to VIT. With pure MAG, I've always been able to solo bosses at level, except Nob and Pole, of course.

Chief drawback to having a pure MAG veno is taking aggro from pets. I've gotten around this by putting the Phoenix's Claw Skill on my herc. Even though my current weapon (Neon Purgatory) is refined to +10, I do not take aggro when doing melee bosses or mobs. As always, care must be taken with ranged mobs that are unaffected by my herc's Reflect skill.

The panda is pretty sure this topic is best suited for the veno section.


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I think some vit is a cheaper alternative to investing on gears while leveling and that really you should only adjust as needed and don't bother with reset notes (which otherwise are frequently on sale and far cheaper than some people make them out to be) until endgame. Here's the thing most venos agree on a minimum HP of around 5.6k, preferably 6k, by level 100, so keeping the vit you already have now should help you meet that criteria without investing much on refines of gear you're likely to trade or upgrade anyway. Once you've gotten to a comfortable HP level trough investments that you consider final, that would be the time to reset your vit into mag, perhaps even get your str down as much as it will go considering you're likely to be getting some good bonuses at that point.

I capped my vit at 50 for an extra 600HP which have come in very handy while leveling and, along with some minimal refining, has allowed me to fully shard garnets for better than LA phys def. My plan is to restat that to mag once I go over 8k HP, which is still quite a while away for me.

b:lipcurl Well, it certainly does come down to personal preference but in objective terms of survivability/efficiency vit becomes a very expensive investment once you've gone over to medium-high refine levels on endgame gear. What I'm saying is that base stat points are too valuable a resource to use on 12hp per point and negligible gains to phys and mag def, especially when comparing to the cost of aditional attribute points --- And this is not even getting into the advantages of a significantly higher mag score.

By all means keep the vit if you feel is better but I do recommend you do the math on your own build so you can make an informed decission of what exactly the cost will be for you.

I have 40 base vit plus Ornaments. My dmg is good and i can take 1 - 2 more hits but that's it. Like others said dont overdo it.

In the end , we al lreset to pure mag builds in the end , so its a matter of when you are going to spend the money and on what. Better gear early on or a reset note later ?

y4kuzi wrote: »

You don't need vit. The little HP gain (12 HP per vit) is too small for the magic
attack loss you gain from magic. You get HP by refines at endgame.

yes

vitality has diminishing returns as you level, as the %of your HP from your level, gear adds and bonuses, refines, and shards goes down the higher you level

at lvl 1, 10 vit will double your HP, at lvl 100, with good gear, it wont even be 1% of your HP

on the other hand, your mag stats returns increase as you level, since your gear attack is multiplied by you magic stat.

you can PWcalc it out

but see how much of an % increase in attack you gain from 80 magic, versus how much % HP you gain from 80 vit