Nation Wars Tactics

Sounds about right, but add that if you are planning on grabbing the flag, make sure to bring some run fast apothecary with you and ideally make sure that you are a fast character..i.e ,bm,archer,barb,veno, or possibly sin if you have someone helping that you can tele onto .

Even if your in a battle where it is a sure fire win because the enemy cannot get into the land anymore--make sure to get the flag there as fast as possible so that a new battle can be got to.


3#don't forget to camp the spawn points and kill non charmed people atleast 5 times to get them out of the fight. You can pretty much farm them till they leave forcefully or voluntairly, all except the highly refined people who might be able to put back up a fight right away while still immune.

4# also make sure to attack all lands that the enemy has esp if it will cut them sending reinforcements to another current battle.

Best tactic: Park 5 alts in other nation's battles. It's a lot easier to fight 3 real people with 17 afk alts than 20 real people.

strong squads should move to create 'lines' on the overall battlefield (like go)

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee477/thetannerru/original.jpg (looks like few territories taken)

ex: dark strong squads should go f1 if f1 is taken/in combat frost nation will be unable to defend G1-I2 (ofc frosties could move there before f1 in combat but no reinforcements) and the 'weaker' dark nation squeads can easily claim those lands in 20-1 v 0 fights...

ofc is not that simple as is already basically impossible to communicate w/ some of your nationmates in the same instance much less those in other instances. Predicting the release of "nation tele's," allows player to converse w/ only your nation <_<"

also there are times where you don't want to cap the flag as fast as possible i.e boxing your opponent in, so long as you are able to maintain control of that area.

Sin tactics I am learning so far....

STAY IN STEALTH

Avoid low hanging fruit and easy kills That cleric or wizz sitting somewhere out in the open alone... Is either a trap or a distraction.

If your team has the flags stay in stealth run along side but at a safe enough distance so you don't get hit by aoes. Continously hit tab to see nearby or appraoching enemies... Shadow jump to that enemy and tackle, sleep, stun, whatever and move on... Sometimes is prudent to kill and move but each enemy is a case by case basis.

If opposing team has the flag. then it is a sins job to stop or slow that flag carrier by any means neccessary. Again tackling slash, stun, silence, sleep, all control skills. Note if there is a strong defence around the flag carrier this may be a death sentence... But sage tackling is 11 seconds of immobolize so you may just save your teamb:surrender

^ Clearly a moron.

I agree in a way and disagree in a other. Did you realize that the war you fight people and have a good fight you get more point even if you lose the battle than a battle win without any fight.

Anyway I'm just mystic so I'm not one of the allowed class to pick the flag and I didn't chose mystic to heal people, so I'll let cleric heal the person with the flag. xD

seitori wrote: »

Don't forget one of the most important tactics when your on the wrong side of a (20 to 6) invasion territory battle...


Even if you know your not gonna keep the flag as a defender against such an overwhelming attack group, nab that flag as many times as you can even if their going too kill you, if theres no real flag runners on the field at that time... The more time that goes by ~ by maintaining hold on that flag and the more times they have too kill you to get you too release it, aswell as the more time you keep that flag in a constant reset mode, is more time your reinforcements have too arrive from the neighboring territories to defend the 1 thats under siege....


((I got bored real quick, of how many territories we lost friday because someone wouldn't grab the flag too try and atleast keep it outta the enemies hands until help arrived, so I got killed lots of times filling that gap too prolong the fights through reset times, so reinforcements could arrive))


Last thing anyone wants is to be heading too a territory, which by the time that they've made it there, had already fallen inside of 1 minute and 30 seconds from its start... So if you don't see any real flag runners on the field from your nation too take it then take it yourself even if your gonna die, because it helps add time too the clock before it resets again for the next grabbing....b:thanksb:surrender

And your team get 1 point each time you pick the flag so your chances of winning increase.

The number one priority is nations wars is NOT the flag at all. Oh, no. The number one priority is the base. Lemme tell you all a little story of how dark nation dominated for the first hour and some odd minutes on dw and then fell to second place.

You see, we were doing good. Doing great battles and everything. But then flame starts inching towards our base. I warn everyone, hey flame is moving towards our base. Do not let them take. But nobody listens and indeed frost is smart, notices what is happening and starts inching that way too. Again a warning but no dice. People just keep wasting time with scattered flag walks at other nations. Caring only for the territory they were near at that moment.

Flame and Frost blocks in the dark nation and over a 120 people get stuck at the base. Tons of people are unable to battle because they are cut off and Dark loses a ton of territory. A lot more are land locked now throughout. And frost catches up and overtakes Dark because now really, they couldn't have had too many super populated battles against them anymore. So they start ganking light with flame. Dark does...not much because everyone is stuck in base. It was simple flag walks while all the comrades in dark just struggled to get even a battle for the next 30 minutes.

Instead of a good lead against everyone else, we drop like a ton of bricks. And all those tokens people had earned wasting time on scattered battles instead of going back to defend the base? Pointless because we lost the lead, which would've earned us more tokens. And to boot only had like 6 more points than flame. ><

I'll be glad when people finally get through their head that Nation > Personal.

HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »

If you are outnumbered heavily as a sin, hover around middle and wait for enemy to capture the flag. After that has been done, proceed to killing the flag carrier. I think I stalled a 4 vs 20 war for 10mins by simply camping the flag carriers. Was towards the end of the NW though, not sure if that tactic works too well for individual score. But keeping 20 people in a "won" instance for long period of time helps in defending your nations lead.

This only works if you are a decently geared with the barb's gear. I've since many sins try that on me, and they die when I start attacking. Also, I've seen many sins suicide on my bramble. -_____-

Also, this is assuming Barbs take the flags (which in most battles, Barbs usually have it from my experience), but you can get that annoying time where squishies dig the flag and makes both sides go wtf....

Running around in bramble would be awesome. Unfortunately, most venos just ignore you even if you ask them. All they care about is looking pretty with their nixes.

Even if you spawn right next to them while they're buffing, they will just run off. b:angry

Ruvil - Sanctuary wrote: »

ofc is not that simple as is already basically impossible to communicate w/ some of your nationmates in the same instance much less those in other instances. Predicting the release of "nation tele's," allows player to converse w/ only your nation <_<"

Now to be serious for a second. Ruvil, there aren't nation teleacoustics, and there will not be any. Why? Because while in Nation war, if you go into the trade chat window, it works as "Nation Chat'. It costs about 10k per use.. (sort of close a teleacoustic, huh?). That is a feature I don't think too many are aware of yet, and I believe it should be pointed out. The only downside to nation chat is, the text is white, and it blends the battle updates (like attack on E4, go assist), and the battle chat inside your own instance. This makes it very annoying, and a bit challenging to keep up with. I'm hoping the devs may realize that and change the text color of nation chat so we can use it more efficiently.
Btw, if this was already pointed out in this thread, *facepalm*. I'm just too lazy to read every single post. b:laugh

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

Battle chat can only be seen by people in the instance and nation as you. Nation chat (trade channel) costs 10k per message and be can be seen by everyone in your nation. Problem is that they are both white and so easy to miss.

Whoa, didn't know this.

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Dayuum...Learn something new every day.

I knew about everything except the cost, they should put a warning label on that.

I scored more contribution today then it a past war (Frost, first place both times) yet got less tokens then last time, I demand compensation!

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

Battle chat can only be seen by people in the instance and nation as you. Nation chat (trade channel) costs 10k per message and be can be seen by everyone in your nation. Problem is that they are both white and so easy to miss.

Lol Venus, I pointed out all of this in my post directly above yours.

Ruvil - Sanctuary wrote: »

strong squads should move to create 'lines' on the overall battlefield (like go)

Do you play?