TT Nirvana or R8(r)?

humbfdljr
humbfdljr Posts: 19 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Wizard
I'm a lvl 94 wizard, but I'm already thinking about which gear I'm gonna get in end game.

With NW the economy changed a lot, it's great for me as a new source of money, but I'm also really in doubt about which gear to get.

With nirv mats really cheap, TT nirv seemed better than r8 for me, but I started to consider that r8 recast is also really good and is cheaper to recast now.

The problem is that I know both are a lot cheaper now, but I still dont have idea about the cost to get them (which one is cheaper and what's the difference between both).

In my place, with a wizard 94 as main (I dont have alts) and the economy after NW, which gear would u choose?

Edit: I'm usually a pve player (even considered morai set in the past), never pk, did TW a few times, but pvp is needed for NW now.
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  • _Thoren_ - Harshlands
    _Thoren_ - Harshlands Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I was about to post a thread with the exact same question. I myself am leveling a wizard up and have been debating on wether or not to go with tt nirvana or r8r. At the moment I am leaning more towards r8r but I would like to know more about where it stands in a pvp aspect in comparison to other endgame gears. Hopefully one of the more experienced wizards out there can give us some answers. b:thanks
  • Baby_pho - Heavens Tear
    Baby_pho - Heavens Tear Posts: 636 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    nv s3 all the way. more dmg= more points=more reward. nv s3 armor also has more defense /refine no?
  • _Thoren_ - Harshlands
    _Thoren_ - Harshlands Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I myself have no intention of goin for 3rd cast nirvana. I just wanna know where r8r stands in comparison to the other gears. I should have specified that Im only interested in a comparison of r8r to g15 nirvana as I would'nt have intentions of goin for g16 nirvana.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    3rd recast Nirvana is a cheap and easy upgrade after you have the 2nd recast Nirvana. I don't know WHY you wouldn't go for it considering the 3rd cast completely blows r8r and 2nd recast Nirvana out of the water.
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  • _Thoren_ - Harshlands
    _Thoren_ - Harshlands Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    3rd recast Nirvana is a cheap and easy upgrade after you have the 2nd recast Nirvana. I don't know WHY you wouldn't go for it considering the 3rd cast completely blows r8r and 2nd recast Nirvana out of the water.

    I guess I just like to be different lol. I've always been the type to go with what interests me the most compared to what is best. Plus being an underdog can be fun especially when you embarass someone who has you outgeared.
  • Nurfed_You - Harshlands
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands Posts: 754 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I would, nw>sell drops>buy r9>sell more drops>refine +7>r9 recast>farm warsong/nw>3rd tier r9>refine GG
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  • humbfdljr
    humbfdljr Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »
    I would, nw>sell drops>buy r9>sell more drops>refine +7>r9 recast>farm warsong/nw>3rd tier r9>refine GG

    I get only 20-30m a week with my current gear in NW. So I guess I would need a better gear before trying to do that.

    Thanks to who advised me in this topic, but I'm still opened to more opinions about my question.
  • Nurfed_You - Harshlands
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands Posts: 754 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Just focus on getting r8 for now. once you get r8+5 or so you'll earn enough money to fund r9
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  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Just curious, has anyone has written about where and how.... actually mostly the 'how' part... of recasting r8 gear?

    And would anyone mind posting a link to said info?
  • Keiko_Soma - Sanctuary
    Keiko_Soma - Sanctuary Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It depends on the char for me. Mine are all hybrid. My cleric and archer have r8 primarily for the weapon, but I prefer TT and nirvana armor. I actually have 2 of each Nirvana and TT99 for the bonus. It adds DPS/-channel and defense. I +10ed my r8 weapon and it's pretty sick :3 but I don't really use much else out of the rank gear.

    Go look at all the stats for each weapon type and decide what YOU like best. Gear helps, and it has nerfed this game, but it still requires a good player who knows their class to wield it.
    102 Cleric sage
    100 Barb sage
    101 Archer Demon
    101 BM Demon
    94 Veno demon
    78 Mystic, 68 Psy, 48 Sin, 30 Wiz
    I think I need to stop making alts.... :3
  • Illyn - Raging Tide
    Illyn - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    About TT nirvana, I went to the forges and saw that there are 3 options of TT99 magic weapons, so I'm confused about which one would be better for me (I dont know what are the final status of each one after they become nirv weapon). Any tips?
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The TT99 weps can be turned into any of the g13 Nirvana weps (i.e. you can turn the tt99 pataka into the Nirvana wand or the tt99 sword into the Nirvana glaive). That being said, I prefer either sword or glaive for DD.
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    i would make a lunar weapon
    NOT TT and NOT R8r
    and turn that into nirvana - g16... tradeable... SELLable...

    i mean i did
    its doing a good job. hitting the same (link.pwcalc) as rank9 (link.pwcalc) ?????ish



    ...
    my funds are to low to buy a r9 weap
    so i cant sell my g16 atm..


    how much would a +12 g16 sword with good stats go for anyways?
    well im sure its more than a bound weapon... they go for.. yes.. nothing /o\


    WTS g15 lunar nirvana armors too... uhmmm
    man they lost value
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  • Illyn - Raging Tide
    Illyn - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    The TT99 weps can be turned into any of the g13 Nirvana weps (i.e. you can turn the tt99 pataka into the Nirvana wand or the tt99 sword into the Nirvana glaive). That being said, I prefer either sword or glaive for DD.

    Ty for the info.
  • Illyn - Raging Tide
    Illyn - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i would make a lunar weapon
    NOT TT and NOT R8r
    and turn that into nirvana - g16... tradeable... SELLable...

    i mean i did
    its doing a good job. hitting the same (link.pwcalc) as rank9 (link.pwcalc) ?????ish



    ...
    my funds are to low to buy a r9 weap
    so i cant sell my g16 atm..


    how much would a +12 g16 sword with good stats go for anyways?
    well im sure its more than a bound weapon... they go for.. yes.. nothing /o\


    WTS g15 lunar nirvana armors too... uhmmm
    man they lost value

    Good, but how much harder or expensive is lunar nirvana related to TT one? Almost everyone said to me that lunar is more difficult and expensive, but I have no idea by how much.

    Latelly I've been seeing people wcing "LFM Full Lunar no fee, my drops", how much are they spending for that? And how many runs do they need?
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    well you can either buy a lunar weapon tingie from packs
    or make a lunar gold weapon yourself

    it doesnt matter what weapon you use, you can use all of them to make a magic sword i believe..
    so it can be down to 20 mil or up to 50 mil depending


    but even if the tt99 weapon is only 1/5 of that price its still better to make lunar
    because TT will always be bound, and anything you make of that one will be bound as well
    so you end up with a refined bound g16 weapon in the end
    as opposed to a refined g16 weapon you can sell to fund refines on your future rank 9


    basically im going on about the only difference they have; auto-binding.





    edit:
    you want this weapon? http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/34775


    its cheaper to buy a ☆Neon Purgatory wand,☆Dying Spirit pataka or ☆Buddha's Leaf or Lunar Glade Insignia Weapon
    ~for around 30-40 mil


    if you dont mind having a expansive weapon in your inventory that you cant sell you can make the tt99 for a small fee

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/15305 Tsuchung's Blazing Wings x 2 should be the only "expansive" item in there, about 800k-1mil each... rest is green mats .. guess about 5mil total value


    no matter what base weapon you make, you'll need 250 rapture crystals (125mil), a few essences of offense (3mil each, i dont believe you get good stats on first roll.) and a lot of warsong runs
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  • Flamespirit - Dreamweaver
    Flamespirit - Dreamweaver Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Idk I do think the idea of getting lunar becuase it is tradebale is sound...However if you do not intend to play that often or ever spend money for high refines and stuff then I think rank 8 recast is fine.

    It has some nice features such as being max socket, decent power, and some decent adds such as purify.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    You'll end up spending more tokens for the r8r than just getting the the g16 Nirvana.
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  • Kingy - Harshlands
    Kingy - Harshlands Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I say get both. r8 recast (purify proc/defence lvl's) for defensive purposes when you are severely out numbered & nirvana for offensive purposes.
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Nirvana? LOL!
    I have not heard people doing Nirvana since NW.
    I hate that instance from the bottom of my heart. At least TT was a bit brighter, all that darkness in Nirvana...would make my head hurt.b:shocked
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Illyn - Raging Tide
    Illyn - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    well you can either buy a lunar weapon tingie from packs
    or make a lunar gold weapon yourself

    it doesnt matter what weapon you use, you can use all of them to make a magic sword i believe..
    so it can be down to 20 mil or up to 50 mil depending


    but even if the tt99 weapon is only 1/5 of that price its still better to make lunar
    because TT will always be bound, and anything you make of that one will be bound as well
    so you end up with a refined bound g16 weapon in the end
    as opposed to a refined g16 weapon you can sell to fund refines on your future rank 9


    basically im going on about the only difference they have; auto-binding.





    edit:
    you want this weapon? http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/34775


    its cheaper to buy a ☆Neon Purgatory wand,☆Dying Spirit pataka or ☆Buddha's Leaf or Lunar Glade Insignia Weapon
    ~for around 30-40 mil


    if you dont mind having a expansive weapon in your inventory that you cant sell you can make the tt99 for a small fee

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/15305 Tsuchung's Blazing Wings x 2 should be the only "expansive" item in there, about 800k-1mil each... rest is green mats .. guess about 5mil total value


    no matter what base weapon you make, you'll need 250 rapture crystals (125mil), a few essences of offense (3mil each, i dont believe you get good stats on first roll.) and a lot of warsong runs

    I really liked the idea of selling lunar nirvana if I intend to get r9 in future. I already made a list of lunar mats needed and I'm researching its prices.

    The only items I couldnt find right now in the market was Transparent Crystal, Essence of Nature (apparently I need 108 of those, so I thought it would be the easiest to find xD), Sacred Mother Aura and Empire's Back Image.

    Edit: Just found Empire's Back Image for 10.5m (I need 4 of it to make the lunar weapon o.O), is that its normal price? Because I guess it would be cheaper to get a Lunar Glade Insignia Weapon.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    You can probably just wait around and find someone selling an old hand-me-down Lunar magic wep for 20-30m.
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    the gold mats required for lunar gear are effin expansive

    thats why you buy a old weap/insignia
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  • Illyn - Raging Tide
    Illyn - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Ty all for ur opinions, although there is no consensus about which gear to get, I made my decision for the lunar nirvana.
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    the gold mats required for lunar gear are effin expansive

    thats why you buy a old weap/insignia

    The insignia is around 40m in my server by what I checked, I'll keep an eye on old weapon sales. About the rest of gear the most expensive mat is sacred mother aura, but I'll open catshops to try to buy it for 3m each.
  • mm2000
    mm2000 Posts: 218 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    G15/16 nirvana if you use more than 1 char, R8/9 if you use only one char.
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