TW as veno
Solaricey - Archosaur
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Hi all,
I as veno have been twing for over 6 months now. No one ever told me what to do so I had to use guides and teach myself what to do in tw. I think I am a decent veno in tw now b:avoid but I'd like to see if I can improve.
here's 2 videos of me twing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6P9fcRZ2BM&feature=plcp (first tw after 3 month break)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=3eipcbnx3MY&NR=1 (one of my last tws before the break)
Any advise on what I could do to improve? (pls no harsh comments xD) and how do you guys usually prepare for purging? b:cute
I as veno have been twing for over 6 months now. No one ever told me what to do so I had to use guides and teach myself what to do in tw. I think I am a decent veno in tw now b:avoid but I'd like to see if I can improve.
here's 2 videos of me twing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6P9fcRZ2BM&feature=plcp (first tw after 3 month break)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=3eipcbnx3MY&NR=1 (one of my last tws before the break)
Any advise on what I could do to improve? (pls no harsh comments xD) and how do you guys usually prepare for purging? b:cute
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not sure how much hp you have 8k? or 5k? e.e the numbers are too small i cant see. either way you need more for sure since yall dont have barb buffs.
i'd suggest you get all of the morai skills. includin the ones from aeu. especially chi burn. get the 79 skillsl rainbow myraid both fox/huma form. demon summer sprint is the chit!!!!! use crush vigor on barbs, so they dont have chi to invoke, add that with chi burn you are set. it could b used on bms too so they dont have chi to hf or stun (but it could back fire they can stun and hf you if they know you are targetin them). basically just stay in fox form unless purge/amp/crush vigor/chiburn/ bewitch/myraid are in cd. if you dont have demon summer spirt ,the cheaper version is natural synergy which is the morai skill from corona i believe. u did well on brambling tho i would not go out suacide purging with missing bufffs like bm/cleri buffs. bramble hood is good to use situational bfor purgin a bm or something. parasidic nova is a nice stun bfor you go purgin or have a bm stun then u go purge(if yall are on vent). but then again the veno i tw with is sage so she gain chi easily. you did well.0 -
Venomancers in TW (and NW) mostly fill the role of support but it also depends on what type of squad you are; offence or defence.
When I was in defence I focused on purging, amping, chi burn, bewitch and basically debuff and stun cata Barbs, cata BMs and generally all the KoS players. I didn't find myself attacking much since I was focused on surviving to debuff.
In offence, I get to attack more and I debuff/purge/stun the big KoS players since defence is the one focusing on the rest.
All I can suggest is stock up with IG, Sutra Powders etc. Also, some chi pots for when you die and some defence charms are nice to have.
I'd also suggest getting Demon Summer Sprint; it makes your Feral Concetration easy to use so it's like a free IG every 3 minutes or so. Of course, try to get the Morai skills as well; Blazing Barrier, Bewitched and Chi Burn are all very nice skills for TW.
Also, I'd advice to get Expel, Faith (or whatever the name is, since you don't have D.Summer Sprint) and Badge of Courage (has a chance to remove stun). BoC is especially useful to break free from BM stun so you can Bewitch/Stun/Purge them instead.
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Advice is fairly good and all, but she meant besides the obvious.
(I'd know. We've been playing together for almost 2 years and we're both venos).
1. It'll take most likely months to get the morai skills, and most likely more money to get Chi Burn since it rarely drops. Actually.. it'd cost money for everything since manually getting the books take forever (so ppl buy them instead or ask someone to get it for them) and then learning the skills cost even more money.
2. Venos can't do anything else but suicide purge/amp. In a tw, no one has time to buff (with the exception of the designated cleric base buffer) especially when they're going up against a faction full of r9/g16 players. So that advice is out of the question too. No one can afford to stand around and wait for a bm or barb to buff them.
The pots mentioned are good advice though. But any advice that could suggest longer survivability, such as being less of a target, being able to go all ninja to get the deed done, etc.? Is there anything that she hasn't done already that she could possibly try out?0 -
Advice is fairly good and all, but she meant besides the obvious.
I saw her videos and my advice was about how to improve, not the obvious advice. I saw her genie skills, if she has pots etc. and made my suggestions on it and on top of it I added my own experience and observation as I usually do so others can see things from my point of view.
1. It'll take most likely months to get the morai skills, and most likely more money to get Chi Burn since it rarely drops. Actually.. it'd cost money for everything since manually getting the books take forever (so ppl buy them instead or ask someone to get it for them) and then learning the skills cost even more money.
It will take approximately 3 months (or less) to get the three Morai skills and the only AEU skill she'll need is Chi Burn; Soul Shatter isn't very useful and Bewitched Tiger is optional. I'd say to run a couple of AEUs every day while doing Morai quests for the orders' skills and Chi Burn will eventually drop.
2. Venos can't do anything else but suicide purge/amp. In a tw, no one has time to buff (with the exception of the designated cleric base buffer) especially when they're going up against a faction full of r9/g16 players. So that advice is out of the question too. No one can afford to stand around and wait for a bm or barb to buff them.
Umm...Venomancers can do more than just suicide purge and amp. Lucky Scarab is nice for quick stuns, Zooming Powder + Parasitic Nova is also a nice combination to stunlock a group of players and AA build Venomancers should be able to deal decent damage on HA classes so they can always attack and assist DD their squad (coordination and teamwork comes into play) while debuffs are on cooldown. There are also our Myriad Rainbow skills. Arcane Antinomy is quite nice too (physical damage + great channeling debuff). She can farm it via Treasure Maps if she has the patience.
As for the buffing part, that's up to the squad teamwork and overall coordination unless the opposing faction is much too powerful and yours is turtling (but in that case you might not have a chance to go up against said faction to begin with).
The pots mentioned are good advice though. But any advice that could suggest longer survivability, such as being less of a target, being able to go all ninja to get the deed done, etc.? Is there anything that she hasn't done already that she could possibly try out?
There's nothing you can do besides have IG/Sutra/Feral ready and work on your gear to improve your survivability. Flying and being out of sight could do the work but it won't be very effective since you need to get up close anyway.
If the advice that was posted thus far in this thread isn't what she was looking for she should have been a little more specific on what exactly she'd like advice on b:chuckle[SIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/MtwcqjL.png[/SIGPIC]
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1. Sadly I'm in a different squad every week. In my last guild I had a select group I'd always be in defense with. Now it's like cata support for one tw and for example attack for the other xD
2. I'm working on a new genie atm. I just need alot more spirit to finish it. As for pots I usually use base pots and the usual apoth. Sadly I don't have alot of time to do aeu and sometimes I can't even my do dailies so getting the skills is taking longer than it should. But yeah I know I really have to get them xD.
3. As for the gear part. I'm now almost full r9 just missing the belt. I know my hp is not really high. 6.2k unbuffed and 8.3k buffed I'll work on that when I get the r9 belt. Though I doubt that some more hp will help me when I have 3/4 r9 archers on me including r9 third cast b:surrender (when apoth/ad is on cd ofc)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Archers are what usually kill me as well. Psychics and Wizards come second but those seem often focus on the LA/HA classes as far as I've noticed so sometimes I get away without being touched.
Working on your physical defence and HP is really the only thing you can do. We're bound to be food for some classes while others are food for us but that's part of the game XD
As for squads yeah..coordination and teamwork plays a big deal. Last weekend my defence squad, which I was leading, was amazing. We had great timing and coordination. However, the second TW we had I was leading an offence squad and it was hardly following my "orders" and they mostly did things on their own which resulted in a lot of dying x.x[SIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/MtwcqjL.png[/SIGPIC]
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