Kill natwar AFKers

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  • Clokey - Harshlands
    Clokey - Harshlands Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    then GM ban ppl or do something just 1 char per ip in NW also if anyone wanna leave a shop outside np with that, but... no more alts in NW
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    There was 1 BM, probably alt, hiding in a bush near the flag capturing zone on their side of the field as I ran to put the flag there. Didn't attack me, had TT axes, and still didn't bother attacking me after.

    So I just killed it and let the spawn killers force them out, but sadly, they still gain some points.
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  • v4liance
    v4liance Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hey folks,

    Thanks for pointing out this problem. We definitely don't want players abusing the Nation Wars system by parking their AFK characters, stealing points and space.

    I can't say what kind of solution we'll come up with, but I'm going to be talking this over with the PWI Team and the devs to see if we can come up with something.

    I'm sorry that I can't promise anything right now, but I do promise that this is something I'm going to work on, and I'll let you guys know if something does come up.

    In the meantime, please continue to let us know about your concerns in Nation Wars and with the recent update, both on the forums and in tickets.

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  • Cutlspbm - Archosaur
    Cutlspbm - Archosaur Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    What about the people that actually participate but get nothing even though they were in land where there were victories?
  • Simi_P - Dreamweaver
    Simi_P - Dreamweaver Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I too would like to see something done about this; but I'm not in favor of doing it by IP's because my husband plays & so does my brother in law. Since we all live together & use the same internet; I'm assuming we all have the same IP address; and that would totally suck if we couldn't all play:(
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I don't know if its such a problem. I tried an AFK alt myself to get tokens and it didn't get anything. You need a good amount of luck to get tokens I think if you're completely afk.

    The main issue is that it takes us space though which makes it harder to enter territories.
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  • Star_Prism - Archosaur
    Star_Prism - Archosaur Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I think this might already be resolving itself. On Friday's NW I spent more than half the event unable to get to any battles because they were full. In last nights I only had it happen twice and both times it was for only a couple minutes. I also noticed that my reward was far greater. I ended up with 36 tokens on a level 70 Wiz and our nation came in last. Not sure how other servers our doing, but ours seems to have learned that having an alt in does not pay in the end.
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  • NYRRAYN - Lost City
    NYRRAYN - Lost City Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    totally agree that something needs doing about the afkers in NW, though im not sure about the ip blocking as both myself and my husband play and we have the same ip address, i look forward to what PWI comes up with, NW is fun to do for once we all can have fun. And on a side note i thought the multi-clienting rule was 2 accounts only not the 6-9 alts that i have seen people mention, has this changed?
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
    NYRRAYN - Lost City wrote: »
    totally agree that something needs doing about the afkers in NW, though im not sure about the ip blocking as both myself and my husband play and we have the same ip address, i look forward to what PWI comes up with, NW is fun to do for once we all can have fun. And on a side note i thought the multi-clienting rule was 2 accounts only not the 6-9 alts that i have seen people mention, has this changed?

    Nope, that hasn't changed. If you see someone with that many alts on at once, submit a ticket.

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  • CroPsy - Heavens Tear
    CroPsy - Heavens Tear Posts: 476 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Restricting just one account for 1 IP is not good idea. Me and my girlfriend always have same IP, since we share same internet connection.
  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Suggestion: let ppl ticket the alts afking in battle and after investigation gm can see if the person was duo-boxing or not. Possible ban or something b:nosebleed
  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    An auto quest where the player has to go in one of the three random flag spawn points within 120 seconds after they enter. They only need to arrive at the area to complete the quest to stay.

    Another auto quest each time a flag has been captured. 90 second limit. Random flag spawn again.

    If people can't help afk, it's not that difficult to pull up the map and go back to main base.
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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Blocking the IP would be a foolish gesture. What if you wanted to LAN it up with your homies?
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  • SwordFarm - Sanctuary
    SwordFarm - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    How about adding a 1 million coin entrance fee? It should help cut into the profits of those who bring a lot of alts, and help keep out people who aren't serious about doing Nation Wars.
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I don't know if its such a problem. I tried an AFK alt myself to get tokens and it didn't get anything. You need a good amount of luck to get tokens I think if you're completely afk.

    The threshold of reward is quiet high. I duo my main and alt with my alt backing up my main with buffs and an occasional attack. Alt almost cleared the 4 digit mark, but still no reward.

    SwordFarm - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How about adding a 1 million coin entrance fee? It should help cut into the profits of those who bring a lot of alts, and help keep out people who aren't serious about doing Nation Wars.

    I get hundreds of tokens per battle. You think 1 million fee is going to stop me? If i can guarantee rewards on both characters... not even 10 million will phase me.
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  • condo2009
    condo2009 Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    CroPsy - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Restricting just one account for 1 IP is not good idea. Me and my girlfriend always have same IP, since we share same internet connection.

    may have the same connection but each computer has it's own ip address
  • TexanTank - Raging Tide
    TexanTank - Raging Tide Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    RScape has a nice set up with a game called soul wars, if you stay inactive for amount of time you get kicked.
    You either have to attack, die or heal to stay in the game.
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  • thatguy123456
    thatguy123456 Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    condo2009 wrote: »
    may have the same connection but each computer has it's own ip address

    unfortunately what you see is a NAT IP address, the outside world only sees the one IP address for your router.

    But i agree they need some mechanism to help ensure that people are doing the right thing.. meh.. i just thought about it...

    nothing will change
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    thatguy123456 wrote: »
    unfortunately what you see is a NAT IP address, the outside world only sees the one IP address for your router.

    But i agree they need some mechanism to help ensure that people are doing the right thing.. meh.. i just thought about it...

    nothing will change

    Indeed; that suggestion would cause hilarious carnage; as almost every NAT router everywhere assigns IPs in the same way. So just about everyone would be caught as an alt of one poor guy.

    A combination of "Local IP + IP as visible to the server" would probably work. Except; well, how do you know it's two people and not, for example, one person and that same person's laptop?

    It's basically not enforcable in any way at all.


    An entrance fee... would have the opposite of the desired effect. Anyone going JUST for rewards would pay it, any time the expected reward for an alt was high enough. (And, what, 1 point? 2?) whereas anyone who fears not getting anything; or just wants to play, will avoid it. (See also: Lunar.)
  • bladerunnerdm
    bladerunnerdm Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I don't know if its such a problem. I tried an AFK alt myself to get tokens and it didn't get anything. You need a good amount of luck to get tokens I think if you're completely afk.

    The main issue is that it takes us space though which makes it harder to enter territories.


    the intention is not to get contribution on alts, the intention is to prevent others from getting rewards by taking spaces (lowering the overall outcome of a nation war)

    this will boost the value of those who got rewards (usually the main character)
  • RexNero - Dreamweaver
    RexNero - Dreamweaver Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the afkers dont enter the battles anyway. they just get points for being there


    Not is true they are auto-ported in free battlefield when is available.

    Is happen to me after i got tired to pass time to try find a land that not was full i ported in a battlefield after few min without do nothing.

    And kill afker not is a solution kill that u receive not change or decrease your point u can die 1k times or 0 is same

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