Question about Lunar

I don't know to be honest, sorry. I only do lunar for BH and even then I rarely do it due to the fact I barely have the 500k to spare as it's usually 100% in my R9 fund b:cute

It is purely random. The only difference in paths are:

*Different bosses
*Different G16/R9 mold drops

Too bad you aren't on my server...I have a LOT of lunar mats and I never use them.

Aren't the tinders dropped only by particular bosses, so that depends on path?

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't believe there's one path that gives more of a particular essence than another.

Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It is purely random.

Those two reveal the truth in regards to any specific essence.

Segreta - Sanctuary wrote: »

Oh...so which one(route)is the easiest then?

If you are looking for the easiest, and can build a good squad that knows their way around the instance, Fuzzy would suggest that the Drake Fling path is perhaps the most "easy". If you pull the 1st spawn (max hp of the 4) and have an aps person tank while the rest are in the water for the 1st incarnation of Drake, he drops pretty darn quick. Once the 1st is gone, the advanced 2nd won't spawn the dangerous adds of the 1st and is fairly easy to eliminate. Just be prepared that he does have a knockback as his 1st move.

That being said there is a trick to all 3 of the paths The biggest problem you may face is finding people to complete the instance if it doesn't involve the Queen for BH. If you can, look to Drake path 1st, Relic 2nd and Prime 3rd if "easy" is what you seek.

Each path has their challenges. Drake path offers Mastaba as 2nd boss with a terrible slow effect, Relic path offers a 2nd valley where the mobs can stack poision like its going out of style, and the Prime path offers well... Prime as the final boss.

None are easy, each offer their own challenge.

All being said, Fuzzy says to look to Drake 1st. Kill only the pys immune pillar on the right hand path and try your luck. b:victory


And... panda moving this to the proper sub-section.


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Ok, I have not done a full lunar since the last patch, so I will assume the bosses behave similarly.

You are going to want to build a squad around aoe DDs. Aps toons are a bit overrated when it comes to Lunar. Sure, you could theoretically make that work, but I would recommend a party more oriented to clearing the dungeon quickly.

Since you yourself are a veno I would get at least 3 aoe dds (Seek/Arch/Wiz/Psy), a cleric and either a barb or seeker for pulls. If you get an archer with blood vow you should be fine.

The path you want to take is Genesaic Blink, kill the two phys immune mobs, Hauntery Queen, Primal Fear.

Genesaic is tricky and your purge should come in handy with him. If you have no dedicated tank, you can BB far away from the boss and have someone ranged tank him. You can have one or two people focus the mobs to make that easier and he should still die relatively fast.

For Vile Genesaic, you will want to range tank him as he has no ranged attack aside from purge and run in every so often to purge his buffs when the casters spark.

Hauntery Queen has nothing of note that I can recall. Both versions die pretty easily and I can tank them in BB just fine (g15+5/6.8k hp; Pure bow).

Primal has no reliable ranged attack as well, so you can have your casters just light him up and wait for him to die. Vile works the same. Alternatively you can have the entire group jump onto the rock behind him, cleric can BB and this way you are all safe and you can still attack him (I am not sure of his max ranged attack; I do know that Wiz/Psys and archers are at least safe from most attacks at 30+ meters away; Veno range is 28.5? worth testing). Your attack is reduced if you are in the water, so make sure the casters/archers know this.

Lunar is definitely one of the easier instances in the game if run in this fashion. 2 of the viles (Primal and Genesaic) are soloable by an archer/caster but it would take quite a while. I have myself solo'd Primal after having BH squads quit out after Queen because we didn't have a barb and none of the sins/bms thought we could beat it.

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You are going to want to build a squad around aoe DDs. Aps toons are a bit overrated when it comes to Lunar. Sure, you could theoretically make that work, but I would recommend a party more oriented to clearing the dungeon quickly.

Since you yourself are a veno I would get at least 3 aoe dds (Seek/Arch/Wiz/Psy), a cleric and either a barb or seeker for pulls. If you get an archer with blood vow you should be fine.

AOE squad = good, no BM = bad b:chuckle. Having the perfect squad that people go for like they do for delta = silly in my books. One shouldn't underestimate BM's in squads. If they have good gear, they can be pullers, tanks and aps all in one. With g16 weapons refined to +10, they hit very close to g15 int zerk sins.

You need one puller/tank, and good aoe. Any squad make up can make it work. If people are dual clienting this instance, than the alts need to have good gear so they can take a few hits as things are set up.

I do the bm wygie, so i always take a veno on my runs. That boss is mean without purge.

All the above becomes even more fun, if you simply get a squad together that can handle tm lunar.

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Keep in mind I have done dozens of lunars with various squad types and lots of aoe dds generally make it faster.

Aoe's do make it faster. My sad experiences come from squads who insist on range tanking bosses when we have no range people in squad, sure equip the bows on barbs, bm, sins b:chuckle. Lunar does not require OP gear, but it does require squishies to look out for themselves.

I often pull on my 6k hp bm when pullers fail horribly in the squad. Takes 3~5 pulls a valley. I prefer not to. Much easier if a barb does it in 1~2 pulls. Most of my runs, the barb/seekers do the pull. Mostly 1~2 pulls. As you said, the bm has to know how to play the class and use the skills. Can't be twitching all over and hope it works out.