PWI what the hell did you do with refine?

justina20 wrote: »

I dont know but is not only now , this is going for 2 months now. I cant do anything more then +2 . I have to pay for refine more then the item itself. This is starting because idiots and show off noobs start to write on forum that with that tisha stone they made +7 items and now the PWI make 1 fail 1 succes, 1 fail 1 succes, 1 fail 1 succes ...so you cant make with that stone anymore. Same with canny and raps. They show off on forum they made 500 mil at X 2 from Nirvana and look where we are now. They made WAR on a PVE server. That is low!

I've had no problem refining some pants to +5 with under 300 mirages (not even adds used) yesterday. And there has always existed war on PvE servers. They were called Territory Wars. They just made a new one.

You just had bad luck. I just refined a warsong belt to +9 with tishas & tienkangs; using 1000 mirages

LMAO 300 mirages to +3? You just have bad luck. I refined all my R9(4 peices) and a 4 sock Nirvi helm to a +3 with 70 mirages, all within the past 2 months. Also, if you don't get a +3 by the time you use 50 mirages, give up and buy a orb. It would have to be R9 or some high priced Nirvi recast before I would use 300 mirages on a peice of gear, especially if I paid for the mirages. if the mirages were free from TT, then who cares.

You've had bad luck.

I +7'd two different full sets of gear a couple days back with under 2k mirages.

justina20 wrote: »

Now you have to buy orb to make it +3? I spend 300 mirage to make a damn item +3. Dont tell us nothing happen cuz few months before you can do easy +4 and + 5 with mirage, can you get more lower then that, why so greedy? The game is already becoming PaytoPlay but to spend over 300 mirage and after see the item +0 again is lower even for someone like you. If you keep this up maybe even with orb will fail lol.
I never seen a game before that fail at + 2 and you have to pay for +3, what the hell did u drink?

you call that bad luck? b:laugh come back and talk when you beat my bad luck of failing to +1 43 times in a row then we can talk bout bad luck b:chuckle

My luck also has always been down the toilet, hence, I just use orbs from +3, and sometimes even to get an item to +3 takes a ton of mirages.

It's just a string of bad luck. It's bound to happen to someone eventually, unforunately that person is you. Not too long ago I +3 my cape with 3 mirages. And then immediately spent all of the other 400 mirages I had trying to +3 my belt. Same grade. It just comes down to luck.

refining is all about luck. not to long ago i +7d g16 wrists and helm with almost no effort whatesover, but i was unable to refine my friends helm to +5 with 500 mirages + stones. then the next day i got snowflake sole boots to +6 first try, failed at +7, and it got reset after another fail at +6, but then quickly got +6 again with like 60 more mirages.

it is possible that pwi changed refining rates since update, but i highly doubt it, would be hearing much much more complaints, since everyone is refining new vana gear currently

I tried and got barb's wrists i don't even care about to +8... tiekangs all the way

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

I call that super luck. Had that been turned around, you could have +10~+12 your gear b:chuckle.

my bad luck is so bad its good? b:chuckle

Sorry, it's all luck, and item level doesn't factor in. Sometimes it's easy, sometimes you get screwed. That's part of any gamble.

Just got a nirvy chest to +5 in 38 mirages, then nirvy dual blades to +6 in a straight shot only to fail trying for +7 and spend 600 mirages getting it back to +4. Luck happens. Sometimes you get a handout, sometimes you just get boned. Nothing more to it than that.

As for dragon orbs, I'll use 'em after +6 or +7. Look at that price. It might be demoralizing how long it takes and how many times you fail. It might be time-consuming. But in the end, if you paid ~10-12k for your mirages, you have a -lot- of attempts before you're even close to spending as much as that one dorb cost you.

QQ i have never gotten a thing over +4 with mirages, i use orbs from 4 and up so b:cry

I used 200 mirages today to +7 two items. The refine rates are still the same.

760 Mirrages and 7 Tienkangs just to get my Gorenox Vanity +4. Beat that!