DQ Alternatives

kprimus
kprimus Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2012 in General Discussion
Hi,
As you all know, the DQ's are all nerfed (except lvl 81+) so, because I'm playing on a low lvl toon, what are some alternatives to DQ's? They were my main source of income seeing as I don't have enough money for merchanting and I'm only lvl 41.b:sadb:cry
Many thanks in advance,
-VHKb:victory
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  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Try farming materials like purified oil, compound oil, concentrated glue, and rough fur. Those should sell fairly well to catshops buying them.

    I've included links to pwDatabase for these items, find a mob in your level range that's not too hard to kill, and farm.

    b:victory gl, and lets hope they fix this nerf.
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  • Nenor - Dreamweaver
    Nenor - Dreamweaver Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Yes you can do the drops that Jeremied listed and sell them to catshops that are set up buying them. Unfortunately, the prices of these will drop to rock bottom as the mats flood the market.
  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Yes you can do the drops that Jeremied listed and sell them to catshops that are set up buying them. Unfortunately, the prices of these will drop to rock bottom as the mats flood the market.

    True. The catshop buying price for them on sanctuary is like 10k each, buy the selling prices are in range of 40-60k depending on material, seems like a flawed market already
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  • condo2009
    condo2009 Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Try farming materials like purified oil, compound oil, concentrated glue, and rough fur. Those should sell fairly well to catshops buying them.

    I've included links to pwDatabase for these items, find a mob in your level range that's not too hard to kill, and farm.

    b:victory gl, and lets hope they fix this nerf.

    Just WHO is going to buy with no coins? No one.... Farming is useless.
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    condo2009 wrote: »
    Just WHO is going to buy with no coins? No one.... Farming is useless.
    You've obviously never merchanted before. They buy items for low, sell for high, then buy low again using their gains from selling. It nets them profit and the farmers profit. You can start with as little as 100k coin, which is how I started with mirages.

    If OP has the time, he could set up a cat shop and sell the stock that way for a higher price than he'd get selling them to someone else's catshop.

    There are coins out there, and ways to get them. You have to be smart, and not lazy.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    Slow and steady stays alive~ I'm in no rush, I'm enjoying the journey to end game just as it was ment to be. b:victory
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  • gnawcatshop
    gnawcatshop Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I farmed up 1 million coin with dq items, set up a shop to buy fungus for the veno pet quest. My intention was to sell them at auction for 2 mill. With dq items dropping to 1 coin each no one but high lvl players could afford to buy them and my own veno has already done the quests and bought cages. I'm sure that anyone who could afford to buy them has already done the quests or bought cages so now what do I do with 105 fungus?
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I farmed up 1 million coin with dq items, set up a shop to buy fungus for the veno pet quest. My intention was to sell them at auction for 2 mill. With dq items dropping to 1 coin each no one but high lvl players could afford to buy them and my own veno has already done the quests and bought cages. I'm sure that anyone who could afford to buy them has already done the quests or bought cages so now what do I do with 105 fungus?
    <_< I know someone that could use 100 fungus and got that amount of coin by doing quests and events, and selling legendary weapons. We're probably not on the same server though.

    Sell them anyway. Fairly certain 2mil is cheaper than a cage. (although I think they're on sale now, so...yeah)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    ~Demon as of 5/6/12 - On the night where the moon is closer to the earth and brighter than any other night in the past 18 years.~

    Slow and steady stays alive~ I'm in no rush, I'm enjoying the journey to end game just as it was ment to be. b:victory
    "You sir, are why I love clerics <3" < Liba - Heaven's Tear
    b:thanks Well thank you Liba<3
  • condo2009
    condo2009 Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    You've obviously never merchanted before. They buy items for low, sell for high, then buy low again using their gains from selling. It nets them profit and the farmers profit. You can start with as little as 100k coin, which is how I started with mirages.

    If OP has the time, he could set up a cat shop and sell the stock that way for a higher price than he'd get selling them to someone else's catshop.

    There are coins out there, and ways to get them. You have to be smart, and not lazy.

    there will not be coins out there anymore. no one under 80 will have $ to buy without a credit card. learn economics.
  • Niriam - Dreamweaver
    Niriam - Dreamweaver Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Here's a crazy thought. We can actually start doing the Dragon Quest.

    Just an idea.
  • danaya123
    danaya123 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Here's a crazy thought. We can actually start doing the Dragon Quest.

    Just an idea.

    Sry but i cant get it.Doing dragon quest for what?Spending an hours for some outdated crappy low lvl gears? What else you can do with the orders,im i missing something?
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    condo2009 wrote: »
    there will not be coins out there anymore. no one under 80 will have $ to buy without a credit card. learn economics.

    Have you actually tried doing quests? As I understand it, they increased coin rewards from quests to offset the DQ nerfs.
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    condo2009 wrote: »
    there will not be coins out there anymore. no one under 80 will have $ to buy without a credit card. learn economics.

    You need to read your theory again and actually play the game and do quests. Once you have done the above, you'll see there is coins at lower lvls that does not require real money being charged.

    Here's a crazy thought. We can actually start doing the Dragon Quest.

    Just an idea.

    Don't give them crazy ideas b:shocked b:shutup.
    danaya123 wrote: »
    Sry but i cant get it.Doing dragon quest for what?Spending an hours for some outdated crappy low lvl gears? What else you can do with the orders,im i missing something?

    Have you looked at the rewards for dq items? A friend made 200m by doing those quests and being smart about it. Sure she lost dq points, and coins from them, but she got her endgame gear before she reached 90.
  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Try farming materials like purified oil, compound oil, concentrated glue, and rough fur. Those should sell fairly well to catshops buying them.

    I've included links to pwDatabase for these items, find a mob in your level range that's not too hard to kill, and farm.

    b:victory gl, and lets hope they fix this nerf.

    What if a player want to upgrade its own craft skill so it need those mats?
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  • AliceAdams - Lost City
    AliceAdams - Lost City Posts: 308 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hay, Fruit, and Fungus.

    You need 20 hay to increase one pet slot. Then it's 50 fruit, then 100 fungus(can someone confirm this one please?).

    Hay on our server goes for as much as 25k. Fruit and fungus, for some reason, tend to go for half that. I don't know if the drop rate is better on these, or it's just the fact that you need so many more of them.

    But it's an excellent money maker.
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  • lordhanzo
    lordhanzo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    as good as they increased quest reward, it wont cut it.

    quest can only be done once, where DQ can be gained in unlimited amount.
    also, some ppl like to dump exp into Genie and farm coins first so they can maxed their skill / gear before leveling up..

    if they hv to adapt, then that means there is no fun <lv80, u basically hv to rush to 80+ so u can actually enjoy the game without hv to play in haste.
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    lordhanzo wrote: »
    if they hv to adapt, then that means there is no fun <lv80

    What did i just read? b:shocked
  • Niriam - Dreamweaver
    Niriam - Dreamweaver Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    danaya123 wrote: »
    Sry but i cant get it.Doing dragon quest for what?Spending an hours for some outdated crappy low lvl gears? What else you can do with the orders,im i missing something?
    Gear, mounts, whatever else you can get. Or just sell the orders you get.

    Like I said, just an idea.
  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Join nation wars with a lvl60+ 2 hours better than 1 month of DQ farming b:avoid
  • gnawcatshop
    gnawcatshop Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hay, Fruit, and Fungus.

    You need 20 hay to increase one pet slot. Then it's 50 fruit, then 100 fungus(can someone confirm this one please?).

    Hay on our server goes for as much as 25k. Fruit and fungus, for some reason, tend to go for half that. I don't know if the drop rate is better on these, or it's just the fact that you need so many more of them.

    But it's an excellent money maker.

    Anyone who need those items are low levels and with dq at 1 coin can not get the coin to buy them. Those who can afford to buy them, like my own veno, have already done the quests or bought cages with real life cash. I have 100 fungus right now, who can buy it?
  • LoraTab - Dreamweaver
    LoraTab - Dreamweaver Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Up to lv 60 where you should do the nation wars you can do bhs, quests, and make use of the divine orders. Also join a decent faction where someone might toss u a mill to help out with early gear(if it is your main an first toon)
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Anyone who need those items are low levels and with dq at 1 coin can not get the coin to buy them. Those who can afford to buy them, like my own veno, have already done the quests or bought cages with real life cash. I have 100 fungus right now, who can buy it?
    Buying? What if they actually went out and KILLED MOBS for them instead? b:cute Below 60 now is quite easy, I only have one character above 60, the rest are at it or below. You get free charms, so you save on pots. You get cheap gear, so you save on gear. You get hax fb19 ornaments, so you save on ornaments. You get access to the best grinding mats, which sell better than higher level grinding mats.

    My partner has 2mil coins in his inventory from quests, and running the tiger event on mondays. He frequently gets flawless gems and things as rewards, which he sells. On his lvl 50 veno.

    You say there will be no money. I think you mean that you don't know how to get it. There is money out there, the merchants are hoarding it. In fact, there is TOO MUCH money, which is why everything is so expensive now, instead of how it was 4 years ago. Merchants control the market.

    Heck, just doing your quests and making mirages, which npc for 10k, is a way to make money. Look, you just pulled free money out of cyberspace that no one else touched by npcing an item you can get by running TT and questing.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    ~Demon as of 5/6/12 - On the night where the moon is closer to the earth and brighter than any other night in the past 18 years.~

    Slow and steady stays alive~ I'm in no rush, I'm enjoying the journey to end game just as it was ment to be. b:victory
    "You sir, are why I love clerics <3" < Liba - Heaven's Tear
    b:thanks Well thank you Liba<3
  • gnawcatshop
    gnawcatshop Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    You are absolutely correct, I do not know how to make coin in game because I have never had a level 100 toon, I don't know what high level toons need until I reach that level and learn for myself. Mirage stones? I have them piled up, to me they are only good for making a new genie and I have all the genies I need, thanks for that tip now I know to sell them.
  • condo2009
    condo2009 Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Buying? What if they actually went out and KILLED MOBS for them instead? b:cute Below 60 now is quite easy, I only have one character above 60, the rest are at it or below. You get free charms, so you save on pots. You get cheap gear, so you save on gear. You get hax fb19 ornaments, so you save on ornaments. You get access to the best grinding mats, which sell better than higher level grinding mats.

    My partner has 2mil coins in his inventory from quests, and running the tiger event on mondays. He frequently gets flawless gems and things as rewards, which he sells. On his lvl 50 veno.

    You say there will be no money. I think you mean that you don't know how to get it. There is money out there, the merchants are hoarding it. In fact, there is TOO MUCH money, which is why everything is so expensive now, instead of how it was 4 years ago. Merchants control the market.

    Heck, just doing your quests and making mirages, which npc for 10k, is a way to make money. Look, you just pulled free money out of cyberspace that no one else touched by npcing an item you can get by running TT and questing.

    2 million might get you 2 skills at a higher level, what you going to do after that? and using a higher char to send money to a lower does not count for a new person!
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Yes you can do the drops that Jeremied listed and sell them to catshops that are set up buying them. Unfortunately, the prices of these will drop to rock bottom as the mats flood the market.

    Nah multi client is allowed and people should set a shop beside sell to shop.

    Last night I had a lot of DQ items for the bank quest the 1 coin ones, there's a lot of shop that set to buy at 1k, but sell at 5-7.5-10k, I set my shop just next to a other one selling for 1k less and sold almost all last night. If I've sold direct to the catshop I would have make money, but I made more by selling them myself.

    Ex: If i have sold 100 DQ items to the shop at 1k I'll would have made 100k beside 100 coins, but since she was selling 7.5k I put mines at 5k and got 500k beside 100k or 100 coins.

    500k free coins since it's DQ iI got while questing.

    Than after that people to use that 500k and start merch.

    And also people need to use every opportunity they have, the derby race I've got 2 flyers beside use them I sold them 1.5m so that gave me 3m to start merch, but how many people used the flyer even if they already had a flyer?

    Also level from 40 to 60 is a joke and at level 60 people can make Nations war, I got around 35m on that with my cleric level 63.
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  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    You are absolutely correct, I do not know how to make coin in game because I have never had a level 100 toon, I don't know what high level toons need until I reach that level and learn for myself. Mirage stones? I have them piled up, to me they are only good for making a new genie and I have all the genies I need, thanks for that tip now I know to sell them.

    There are catshops buying them around the elder of Archosaur usually, too. You may say there's no coin, but they'll still buy them for more than the npc price usually.

    Or you could do what I did. Start with 100k, and merchant items while you sleep. Turning 100k into 3mil was hard and took 3 months, but I did it without having to go to one instance or kill one mob.
    condo2009 wrote: »
    2 million might get you 2 skills at a higher level, what you going to do after that? and using a higher char to send money to a lower does not count for a new person!

    Fairly certain he's saving that 2mil to buy/sell mats later. He could turn it into 200m with some work.

    I don't have a single char above 96. So I'm not some high level person soloing everything or getting excitement cards from bh, all I get are fairy box keys I can't use and reflection shards I have 4 days worth of. I don't get taken to high level dungeons to get mats to sell for high prices. And Jer is frequently dirt poor from having to buy mana food. So I'm not sending ANYTHING to any char, trust me. Most of my chars are 60 and below.

    Here, I'll give you some tips.

    Quest.
    Pick up every single drop you get that sells for more than 1 coin.
    Do Dragon Quest with DQ items for copper/silver orders and sell those to other players.
    Merchant bank DQ.
    Merchant crafting mats.
    Merchant mirages.
    Merchant Tokens.
    Merchant rep badges.
    Do Nation wars. Poke ALL the people.
    Run the tiger event. Make lvl30 weapon tokens and sell the weapons for profit.
    Grind DQ for points. Make perfect stones. Merch them.
    Play the game.

    Probably the most important: Have fun. If you're not having fun, why play the game?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    ~Demon as of 5/6/12 - On the night where the moon is closer to the earth and brighter than any other night in the past 18 years.~

    Slow and steady stays alive~ I'm in no rush, I'm enjoying the journey to end game just as it was ment to be. b:victory
    "You sir, are why I love clerics <3" < Liba - Heaven's Tear
    b:thanks Well thank you Liba<3