Undocumented changes/bugs/complaints about new update

ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »

lmao, a guildmate of mine made 2-3 mil off of quest rewards alone with the new quests, not including any drops since he was higher level. I've played back through the lower level quests with a new character recently and ended up with x3 the coin I used to have at lvl 30.

The DQ nerf is fine. Only thing it hurts is people who grind mobs for coins, not questers. And honestly, grinding really just isn't the way to make money anymore. Items with a set price (like DQ) will never catch up with dynamically priced items.

All my quests are done/close to done on 6 toons. I know many with the same issue. Quests are also done once...what happens if you run out of money? 2-3m is barely enough for skills at later levels.

What about paying for charms and etc for TW weekly?

You're also wrong about grinding to make money and DQ items catching up with dynamic prices - lots of people sell DQ items as catshops and make plenty of money.

You're not taking a look at the whole picture - just you and your guildmate's experience.

Your post is narrow minded and short sighted. The DQ nerf seriously hurts a lot of people who just wanna get on, and farm up some coin to afford stuff with. The ONE time quests will not be enough, especially if they were completed already.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

And you still can. Pick up the gear, coins, farm herbs. You'll make money, Grab a kill quest while you're at it, for extra money

No not really. I tried this on my Psy. I ran outta money constantly for two weeks. Unless they made the Duty quests have amazing coin rewards (like at least 500k) this is a fail. Back in the day I could make 500k+ an hour minimum aoeing from DQ drops.

Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »

All my quests are done/close to done on 6 toons. I know many with the same issue. Quests are also done once...what happens if you run out of money? 2-3m is barely enough for skills at later levels.

What about paying for charms and etc for TW weekly?

You're also wrong about grinding to make money and DQ items catching up with dynamic prices - lots of people sell DQ items as catshops and make plenty of money.

You're not taking a look at the whole picture - just you and your guildmate's experience.

Your post is narrow minded and short sighted. The DQ nerf seriously hurts a lot of people who just wanna get on, and farm up some coin to afford stuff with. The ONE time quests will not be enough, especially if they were completed already.

I'm confused, are you a 101 bm who farms DQ71 and lower? If so, I can't help you. Farming DQs at any level will more or less not keep up with weekly charm costs for your average HA class.

If you're a lower level (80 or less), you obviously couldn't have done all the quests above your level anyway (P.S. You get the new quests even if you're already higher than the requisite).

Also, guess what, they didn't nerf the amount of DQ points you get, only the coin price. So if you're selling to other players who want DQ points anyway, your price might go down, but it's not going to affect you like it does the individuals who npc their DQ, which nullifies your argument.

Here's a tip, if you want a constructive discussion, don't call other people narrow-minded and short sighted, it's bad forum etiquette.

Krisnda wrote: »

Guys, lets not get off topic.

V4L is taking a very good look at this thread btw.

Very well Kris, I'll be quiet now b:shutup

booker224 wrote: »

Should be moved to the negative list.
#1. It is an absolute pain to try to move it around on the screen.
#2. It cuts down on visual and play area on screen even more so. Now you have to open the "Quest (Default Q)" screen to "hide" it if that additional screen area is needed.
#3. Unless you have the right scenery, it is extremely hard to read due to the white and yellow type.
#4. If your quest requires the collection of items from killed mobs, you still have to open the "Quest (Default Q)" screen to see what mobs are needed, thereby making the new "Available Quests" redundant.

PLUS: After all these patches in the last couple of years---

Why do we still have an annoying flashing Encyclopedia icon? Players asked a long time ago to have that flashing stopped. Keep the icon, stop it from flashing.
Why do we still have that annoying pop-up screen whenever a World Horn is fired off. A screen that interferes with game play of every other player on the server with the exception of the one using the horn.?
Why do we still have that annoying Auto-Path slider that needs to be adjusted every single time one takes to flight, specially when working quests with multiple landings like WQ. when the old one had the flight height preset on it and all it took was a single mouse click to get to that height?

Agreed. Also would like for the quest tracker to be resized. I personally would like to make it twice as tall as it is now so that I don't have to keep scrolling it up and down to see everything.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Krisnda while your adding up the list of changes and bugs, heres another one for you to add on that list. Secret passage has been reverted back to a pk/pvp free zone.

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1521051

What's really annoying, is that this could be easily fixed by our Dev's if they only had the ability to change one line in one file and restart the servers. All told it would require about 15 minutes to fix.

I like to point out that if PWI team didn't feel the need to bring in server vs server wars, why did u feel the need to nerf the DQ points for lowbies b:puzzled

Haila - Sanctuary wrote: »

I like to point out that if PWI team didn't feel the need to bring in server vs server wars, why did u feel the need to nerf the DQ points for lowbies b:puzzled

Maybe because server vs server is not possible because of the setup over here.
Instead, they gave us the ENTIRE server vs itself

Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You didn't read well, as usual Sirrobert. You need to work on your reading comprehension. You have issues with this in other threads too.

Help the thread out - post results of the new quests themselves. Post all of the low level dailies, and how much money you can make in a day/hour doing the dailies.

In other words - Prove your point or just stop.

Prove your point or stop QQing

You haven't provided one shred of evidence that this will hurt the "casual players who just log and grind" (what they don't do quests either?) You've criticized the nerf without examining the boost to the quests and the new dailys (omg you mean a quest YOU CAN DO MORE THAN ONCE?!)

We're not saying you're necessarily wrong, we're just saying people need to actually try it before causing a ****storm about things they don't know .

You're actually right in a lot that you say, back in the day DQ was the way to make money; thank you, I was there too. I got into the level 80s before bh was even introduced, I remember zhen squads with the pirates for DQ, and water parties. The rewards were absolute **** compared to the drops from mobs. But the fact is, quests have changed, there are dailies introduced now. Hell 60+ chars get a free mp/hp charm EVERY DAY.

I'm not short-sighted or narrow-minded, when I make mistakes I admit them. You're just too busy being an *** to every poster you reply to to notice .


Edit: This is my last post in this thread, due per Kris' request. I didn't want type this one but I couldn't help myself. I suggest you do the same.

- Faction Base Mob quest has been moved to Morai.


I did faction base quest yesterday and today and its still down in Deserted Sea area.

Boots_Elf - Sanctuary wrote: »

- Faction Base Mob quest has been moved to Morai.


I did faction base quest yesterday and today and its still down in Deserted Sea area.

Did mine yesterday and it took me to Morai. If the quests are different for players it would be safe to assume that it varies according to level or it's completely random, it's possible that the mob quest could be influence by the base level now as well.

Well idk about everyone else but heres how it is for me.

I grind dqs each day (that im able) to get coin for cube. I also grind the coin i need to do cs, tping about, repairs, ammo, ect.. The dqs i grind daily (atm) aren't affected, but i do see in the future they very possible will be.
I dont solo TT for mirages. (mats are rather worthless)
I dont solo/duo or cant even get an inv to nirva due to not having 'nirva toons'. (you know the drill, 5 aps (sin or bm) +10-12 or gtfo)
I wont make a toon i do not like playing just to get into an instance.(sin) Why should i be required to play something i do not like? then it isnt a game for fun anymore.

So at end game, that really doesn't leave alot of options for making coin.
I have r8 +10 bow on my main. I farmed dqs to get that bow to +10.
At the arch event i can make 6-7 mill just in dq drops. I used the same method leveling up. If i wanted something, i grinded dqs and I bought it. If I want gold, i grind dqs and buy it. No my method isnt the fastest in the game to make coin. But, it fits MY playstyle. Im sure there are alot more than me with the same playstyle, and like to farm for their items and gears. Removing the biggest/easiest way to get them is a bad decision.
Seriously, does anyone think the 'quest rewards' are enough to buy even 1 or 2 gold? How about a mount? Or a faster flyer? maybe an odd piece of fashion? No ofc not. How does anyone expect the lower levels to save up and get anything in game as a f2p player?

Remember who buys all that gold listed in the AH, it isn't cashshoppers, its the f2p base, and once they leave the game because they cant make any progress and are stuck walking and flying about on the free lv 30 slow flyer at level 80, there will be noone to buy that gold.

After 4 yrs of playing and hearing all "o the game is dying" ect ect, i do fell like this could be the death toll for the game if it isnt changed.

Boots_Elf - Sanctuary wrote: »

- Faction Base Mob quest has been moved to Morai.


I did faction base quest yesterday and today and its still down in Deserted Sea area.

I have the quests Hammer Bats, and Fire Eaters as base quest.
Both are in morai

Nenor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well idk about everyone else but heres how it is for me.

I grind dqs each day (that im able) to get coin for cube. I also grind the coin i need to do cs, tping about, repairs, ammo, ect.. The dqs i grind daily (atm) aren't affected, but i do see in the future they very possible will be.
I dont solo TT for mirages. (mats are rather worthless)
I dont solo/duo or cant even get an inv to nirva due to not having 'nirva toons'. (you know the drill, 5 aps (sin or bm) +10-12 or gtfo)
I wont make a toon i do not like playing just to get into an instance.(sin) Why should i be required to play something i do not like? then it isnt a game for fun anymore.

So at end game, that really doesn't leave alot of options for making coin.
I have r8 +10 bow on my main. I farmed dqs to get that bow to +10.
At the arch event i can make 6-7 mill just in dq drops. I used the same method leveling up. If i wanted something, i grinded dqs and I bought it. If I want gold, i grind dqs and buy it. No my method isnt the fastest in the game to make coin. But, it fits MY playstyle. Im sure there are alot more than me with the same playstyle, and like to farm for their items and gears. Removing the biggest/easiest way to get them is a bad decision.
Seriously, does anyone think the 'quest rewards' are enough to buy even 1 or 2 gold? How about a mount? Or a faster flyer? maybe an odd piece of fashion? No ofc not. How does anyone expect the lower levels to save up and get anything in game as a f2p player?

Remember who buys all that gold listed in the AH, it isn't cashshoppers, its the f2p base, and once they leave the game because they cant make any progress and are stuck walking and flying about on the free lv 30 slow flyer at level 80, there will be noone to buy that gold.

After 4 yrs of playing and hearing all "o the game is dying" ect ect, i do fell like this could be the death toll for the game if it isnt changed.

Someone needs to read closer
Only DQ71 and lower have been droped in price. Lvl 100 + can still farm DQ just fine

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Someone needs to read closer
Only DQ71 and lower have been droped in price. Lvl 100 + can still farm DQ just fine

Yes, someone needs to read closer.

I grind dqs each day (that im able) to get coin for cube. I also grind the coin i need to do cs, tping about, repairs, ammo, ect..The dqs i grind daily (atm) aren't affected, but i do see in the future they very possible will be.