DQ Items worthless

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

Nah, I'm in the 40s almost 50s range. I know I can do tideborn at level 51 but I usually saved that to 60. Because I dislike waiting to turn in quests/get next part of it. Will probably have to bite the bullet and do that anyway now though. I wanted to get some decent gear and refine it by grinding DQ since the 40+ wasn't supposed to be nerfed. Oh well. There are other things I can do I know, like mat farming. It just isn't a good solution if well all have to do it. Thanks though, I'll try to catch you. b:pleased

Ooooo almost 50 aint bad. Tideborn, Scarlet Gate, BH, I think treasure map is 60, WQ isnt till 70...uhm....

Dunno hit me up tonight we can talk it over or FF you real fast for 50.

Lucy_a - Sanctuary wrote: »

DQ 81 is also untouched.
The reason might be the new quests....i just did 2 of them, one gave 40k coin the other one over 60k..........

it could be PWI's way of saying get back to your roots o.o (aka do your damn quests) like someone said, the rewards in coins are really higher.

back in 2008-2009 you used NPC gear up till 60s and then actually farmed gear for TT60 while IN your NPC gear soo.... >.> technically they are just warping us back to 3 years ago. And most of us never used charms then. And actually farmed every 10lvs of TT. Only half of us ever picked up DQ drops then(welcome back team work) And this change is rarely affecting the 100+ pple.

This thread made me realize how pampered we have gotten >.>

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

it could be PWI's way of saying get back to your roots o.o (aka do your damn quests) like someone said, the rewards in coins are really higher.

back in 2008-2009 you used NPC gear up till 60s and then actually farmed gear for TT60 while IN your NPC gear soo.... >.> technically they are just warping us back to 3 years ago. And most of us never used charms then. And actually farmed every 10lvs of TT. Only half of us ever picked up DQ drops then(welcome back team work) And this change is rarely affecting the 100+ pple.

This thread made me realize how pampered we have gotten >.>

That may actually end up being a good thing. Weed out the credit card players and let the real players enjoy the game again? Just a thought. I made money off DQs and farming mats, so its fine. It might get quiet around the servers...

l would blame the people that claim nerfing dq points will balance out.

Sure, math may be able to prove me wrong.

But back when l was a wee cleric l would see many players my level killing mobs for their quests. The quests required 30 or so mobs, not like the 10 and 15 mob quests l keep seeing now.
l would join then and practice my healing.
Working with a squad gave more coins then doing quests alone due to the dq items being actually worth something.

When l started a new alt two weeks ago l was playing the back and forth game with npcs.

There's only so much anyone can do to make solo quests interesting -.-

Nenor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Update.. full delta.
No coins.
b:angry
I call complete bs on that.

What, are people in China somehow botting RB too? Wth is the purpose of taking away our coins? Some people have abysmal luck like myself, get no drops, and the coins still make up for that.

Please look into this too Val, it is absurd. People hate running RB as it is and now they are driving even more of them away instead of trying to entice them in, which is what they should be doing.

Friday assault event gonna be worthless now...

this dq nerf and the lack of coins in delta is ****ed. i can usually understand how making changes can actually have a benefit even when it seems like it doesn't, but this one isn't going to benefit anyone.b:angryb:angry

Meeeowwwwww - Lost City wrote: »

What it seems PWE is trying to do, of course, is turn everyone into a cash-shopper and remove the F2P aspect.

This, but once the f2p base is gone, the csers will no longer have anyone to sell gold to. Cant sell gold=not as much/no one csing=loss of revenue=closed servers.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Friday assault event gonna be worthless now...

The DQ items from arch assault should still be unnerfed. MY DQ90 is untouched.

Jeremied - Sanctuary wrote: »

The DQ items from arch assault should still be unnerfed. MY DQ90 is untouched.

it has multiple waves, some are low level dq items

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

It really isn't a mattered of pampered though. Play style has evolved so that you're more likely to be completely on your own until about level 70 or so. Back in the day I used to find squads for TT and I farmed my TT70 with friends. I remember liking that system because as the cleric, I got second choice in the drops. I didn't mind that the tank got first choice. b:chuckle

not sure if we could call the current 'play style' a form of evolution tho <_>;

v4liance wrote: »

Hey everyone,

We know you're unhappy with this change, and I'm going to be looking into it.

We'll be speaking with the developers to get more information on the DQ item price decrease.

I'm really sorry about surprising you guys like this, and I'll do my best to keep you better informed in the future.

- Val

Val... if you remember when you first got settled in and I sent you that big wall-o-text PM... I told you that things like this would come up, where you might bear the brunt of the community's anger for things that have nothing directly to do with you. So I guess my first question is, "having fun yet?" XD

The second, more-important question on my mind is: did you know about this beforehand? You apologize for "surprising" us, which is all well and good, but was it a surprise to you too? And in point of fact, seeing as it wasn't you who implemented the change and you never posted about it up until now, I'm having trouble seeing how you "surprised" us at all. But what the hell, that's just semantics I guess. :P

Most importantly though... this just highlights the #1 problem I spoke of in my PM. We need dialogue with the devs. There is utterly no reason why every ridiculous change that befalls the Chinese servers must make it to ours. Don't get me wrong, I love the DQ points system, but it only barely compensated for the original 20% price nerf. And unfortunately, this change is not something that PWE can slap a band-aid solution on and pretend that it makes up for the nearly-complete loss of coin income a person below level 80 receives. And the devs' apparent solution isn't much better, because 20-30k from one of the few new quests is a drop in the bucket.

I don't claim to know the details of the Chinese servers' botting problem (and frankly I don't see how they even can make significant money from low-level DQs), but the devs need to understand that we are two different communities, with two different economies, and if they don't start treating us as such, they're going to end up with just one of them (if they're lucky).

Eagerly awaiting the results of your efforts.

Nenor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Update.. full delta.
No coins.
b:angry
I call complete bs on that.

RIP RB Delta, 11/14/12.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ITT: How to Drive People Away from Your Game 101, taught by Professor PWE

Take notes future game devs; this is on the test b:laugh

You know, we're not China...you market to a foreign market, you better damn well tailor your product to fit the needs of that market

your sig rocks

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't claim to know the details of the Chinese servers' botting problem (and frankly I don't see how they even can make significant money from low-level DQs), but the devs need to understand that we are two different communities, with two different economies, and if they don't start treating us as such, they're going to end up with just one of them (if they're lucky).

but thats how communism works @_@;