Honest opinion

in pk, pvp there no rules, everything goes.

A majority of people do things "if it works". If double sparking in stealth to stunning and APSing a target down works, then why would they stop doing it? I have run into many sins like that, and the best thing to do is to try to adapt and fight back. Have Expel on a hotkey and use it as soon as you get stunned from a sin out of stealth. Unless you're a one-shot, which by then you really shouldn't be if you use defense charms as well.

Assassins can be one of the cheapest classes out there due to stealth, but if you play your cards right, sins are actually really squishy. The "APS" gear makes them so.

I guess I'm just too used to fighting people who have fast reflexes. For myself, I have a nice "oh ****" hotkey for when higher level sins pop on me and try to mow me down with high attack rate. For that I usually react in less than a second, and with my HP pool I can survive any sin APSing, unless they get lucky and get 2-3 zerk crits while attacking.

It's also the fact that I'm a skill spamming sin, as I find that more fun, which means auto attacking from stealth isn't really a viable option to take. As I said, if it works then it works. If you find benefiting your faction for the sacrifice of the fun value is worth the trade-off, then that's perfectly fine. I just find that I'm just as useful for my faction while not sacrificing the fun factor.

I don't see why Skai can't reply with his own personal experiences when the person he is responding to discussed their personal experiences first.

In my opinion for 1 vs 1, double spark autoattack from stealth is fail if the target is someone the sin outgears. Tactics like that only show that the sin is afraid of a target that is weaker than them. That and it is just plain boring to fight that way in my eyes. Most people you can autoattack to death before they react can be dealt with by a well placed zerk or crit anyways.

Niteshadows - Harshlands wrote: »

they can kill without doing it.

Niteshadows - Harshlands wrote: »

someone that they completely outgear and refine

Niteshadows - Harshlands wrote: »

you can totally kill regularly?

Doesn't matter how you do it, its not an accomplishment.

This is kind of like asking if its fail for a lvl 100 sin to triple spark to kill a BH29 mob. Doesn't matter how its done, its nothing special.

I agree with Skai (and lol at Princece who contributed absolutely zero, but criticized one of our most experienced sins for talking from experience) that if a technique works it will be used.

This is one reason I get bored of pk so much. If I'm fighting another class, they know what I'm gonna do and I know what they're gonna do. Sometimes we have multiple options like do I anti-stun now or kite and save anti-stun, but that just puts you into a different "I did this so they'll use this so I'll use this and they'll..." where you already know the techniques that are gonna happen, how you'll respond and how they'll respond. Boring.

*waits for Princece to highlight things like 'I','I'm', and 'my'.*

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

I guess I'm just too used to fighting people who have fast reflexes. For myself, I have a nice "oh ****" hotkey for when higher level sins pop on me and try to mow me down with high attack rate. For that I usually react in less than a second, and with my HP pool I can survive any sin APSing, unless they get lucky and get 2-3 zerk crits while attacking.

It's also the fact that I'm a skill spamming sin, as I find that more fun, which means auto attacking from stealth isn't really a viable option to take. As I said, if it works then it works. If you find benefiting your faction for the sacrifice of the fun value is worth the trade-off, then that's perfectly fine. I just find that I'm just as useful for my faction while not sacrificing the fun factor.

Well considering my server, I feel safe bout counting 1,5s till reaction from target due more than normal lag in TWs and the reaction times people got. I likely react in under 1s myself but then again I got phenomenal reflexes - Something my sport teachers considered absurd. Maybe it`s lag, maybe it`s my gear but I know I have trouble dealing with higher level sins when they pop on me with R9 daggers. And honest, my reflexes arent what they used to be when I played sports, I`d still count myself in top 10% when it comes to those.

To me it`s really not a sacrifice - I dont enjoy playing sin too much in TWs but loving TWs I still find it as a whole a positive experience. But the class? Only time when the class itself gives me something I enjoy is when I get to pop lower level sins out of stealth - a friend of mine has complained how I always find him in TWs and drop the stealth. But I got to the whole sparking when I had to deal with R9 clerics with R8 daggers - Stun them --> AD & IG = restealth/change target. A lot of clerics have reflex to IH themselves when getting hit, which isnt really gonna do much to help them against spark.

Saying I drop with spark from stealth doesnt mean I ignore the CC skills sins have, I simply try to get 1st target down before relying on them. I admit I dont understand the concept of killing the target with minimal resources failing simply because you could of done it in more difficult way. Was not directed to you but I find that sort of gameplay more of an showoff instead of doing simple things - When you do something simple, the plan is lot more flexible in reacting to what others are going to do.

Ps. 103 next week and finally being able to see that friend of mine again, jerk went and leveled to 102 .

There is no such thing as a fair fight. In pvp all rules do not apply. I will kill my enemy as quick as I possibly can. Especially if they challenge me first. If they are undergeared and know that I will kill them swiftly and without mercy then so be it. I am no harsh. I am an assassin. That's what we do. What say you?

@Briv I think it's mainly aimed at the sins who try to abuse it to an extent where it's not punishable. In other words, stun/auto attack out of stealth while popping an Ironguard for immunity, and if the target is not dead by the time immunity ends, force stealth, and wait for cooldowns of Ironguard to finish before attacking again with the same tactic. It's not only cheap, but also not that enjoyable on both ends, in my opinion.

The thing is, with most other classes, their attacks can be prepared for. Even if a stealthed archer is in the area, people can pop def charms to survive the first hit. The main problem is that sins can kill people before their client even registers that they are there or their charm even ticks. Its pretty obvious that stealth + that much DPS is broken if the game itself can't even keep up with it. I myself see those people less as sins with daggers and more as invisible blenders with legs that launch onto the target's head.

I'm not opposed to that tactic being used on people that actually have time to immune and counterattack. However, when I watch west arch or silver pool and see an arcane with low refines be killed by an autoattacking +10 sin with AD up, I start to question their use of force. I think of myself as a chef rather than a blender. I cut up my meat accordingly and don't slice everything indiscriminately into pulp. Some may enjoy steak smoothies but I prefer my steak as a solid.

Princece - Harshlands wrote: »

u rly love yourself dont u?

Some one a little butthurt over something? Why so mad bro?