another timezone/server/event complain

WenSon - Harshlands
WenSon - Harshlands Posts: 154 Arc User
edited November 2012 in General Discussion
i know there were alot of complains already, that alot of people cant enjoy the game to the fullest. mostly by europeans

we just want to take part in tw and in events too... this made me leave the game once already, and i am considering to leave it again, cause i cant enjoy the full game

but since PW Entertainment just dont **** seem to care, i think i can keep on complaining too


there are soooo many solutions, and i dont know why we dont even get a statement, why every solution gets ignored

first solution
let europeans switch from usa server to eu server

it was allways said, gms dont have the tool to switch accounts, but we r in this state for such a long time that i can only say :
**** DEVELOPE IT ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

inter server tw will come soon and this clearly shows, u can mix accounts from different servers

2nd solution
this is pw international, not pw usa... so start to **** care for ur international communityb:angry
which means, make events on different times, not all have to be at 8-9pm server time
some could be sooner or later, so every timezone can has a event

i say this especially with the look on the new expansion coming with the inter server tw
as far as i know, u guys will be so **** to make it again in a usa timezone
at least this one time, use ur chance and make the event like 3 hours earlier, its still late for europeans, but the chance we can take part is much better and for americans 5pm shouldnt be so bad too


just stop making people angry
u earn so much money and we dont want much, we just want to enjoy the game
ever heared of "customer satisfaction" ?
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  • Esnemyl - Dreamweaver
    Esnemyl - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,079 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well the grammar was.. painful to read >< But I do understand where you are coming from. I have to be up at midnight-1am in the UK to TW and do some events.

    As far as I am aware, it will cost them to create and host a new server.. If they wanted to make a UK or another European server, and anybody please correct me here if I am wrong, they would do a hell of a lot more pack/rep/refine sales to pump up the profit; and that would lead to more players tiffed about sales more than servers.

    Hopefully they may create a new server/servers for the upcoming expansion...


    (i've probably come up with a lot of nonsense here D:)
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  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    ...
    As far as I am aware, it will cost them to create and host a new server...
    You are wrong:
    1. They will not create new server when population of existing servers so low.
    2. Players, who have characters at existing servers
    - don't want to create new characters at other servers, because they have their characters already
    -spent their own time to create old characters and don't want to start same again
    -want to participate in such events which are anniversary for them as for PWI
    -want to speak English, not German or other Gibberish language at their server
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Even if they was making a new server so people can switch their account to that server, i doubt the server will get a lot of people, people have already their friends on their servers, their factions etc... yes some people have friends from the same time zone, but majority of people have friends from everywhere and change server mean lose a lot of friends, cause maybe some will switch, but some will stay as well.

    I know a lot of people that tried to start on a new server for many reason and at 98% they generally come back on their original server cause they miss it, they miss their friends and the server in general.

    Some people complain their server are dead, if they allow people to switch server that might just make things worse.

    No time will fit everyone, even if they change TW time for EU, than it's the American that will complain, they can't get everyone happy, i guess they go for a time that make the must people happy.
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  • trufflles
    trufflles Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    yes all that above is true but there is a simple solution for that....make the regular events (sadly tw is not possible) like the bh ...

    basically put 2-3 times/day (lets say 8h diference from each other)....on event....but the people participating can only "enter/get the quest" once/day.
  • Labells - Dreamweaver
    Labells - Dreamweaver Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well the grammar was.. painful to read >< But I do understand where you are coming from. I have to be up at midnight-1am in the UK to TW and do some events.


    (i've probably come up with a lot of nonsense here D:)

    Yes I agree Esnemyl the grammar did hurt b:lipcurl
    However I do agree that events should be done for the NON USA community, not asking for new servers or anything (because there's no way I'd move server) but why can't the devs make the game run every 12 hours but only obtainable every 24hrs so people can only do them once a day? this will allow other timezones to actually participate (and get to know people in their own timezones).

    It's not just europe missing out Australia is in as much pain with these poorly timed events as everyone outside of the US is.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    trufflles wrote: »
    yes all that above is true but there is a simple solution for that....make the regular events (sadly tw is not possible) like the bh ...

    basically put 2-3 times/day (lets say 8h diference from each other)....on event....but the people participating can only "enter/get the quest" once/day.

    Yes, but on PvP servers like HL that will be a huge mess, imagine 2 tiger events, people that done it the first time will go the second one pk people just cause it's how people are, beside let the second event go on they will come make people rage by pk them over and over again, event like the anniversary one (sweet remembrance), on some servers people had trouble make it cause not enough people, if you split people in 2-3 groups that will never be done.

    On PvE servers yes that solution could work, but on PvP that would be a disaster for event out of safe zone.
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  • peacefulsilence
    peacefulsilence Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    If they say they can't move a character to another server because of programming limitations that's a lie. PWIs servers were originally migrateable the first year. Not only that but characters with the same names can't be created on different servers so they are connected.

    The real reason they wont is because they don't want to cause imbalances in the servers. Especially new servers. I know newer MMOs allow unmoderated transfer of characters but you can only take your level and some gold with you (Like 200m pw terms), everything else on the character is lost. The only other possibility is that they literally don't know how to do it.
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    i know there were alot of complains already, that alot of people cant enjoy the game to the fullest. mostly by europeans

    we just want to take part in tw and in events too... this made me leave the game once already, and i am considering to leave it again, cause i cant enjoy the full game

    but since PW Entertainment just dont **** seem to care, i think i can keep on complaining too


    there are soooo many solutions, and i dont know why we dont even get a statement, why every solution gets ignored

    first solution
    let europeans switch from usa server to eu server

    it was allways said, gms dont have the tool to switch accounts, but we r in this state for such a long time that i can only say :
    **** DEVELOPE IT ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    inter server tw will come soon and this clearly shows, u can mix accounts from different servers

    You're not switching accounts, you're moving characters between servers. The reason this isn't available now is because each char on each server has it's own number upon creation, and that number is what keeps all your fancy skills, coin, items, and gear attached to your character and not someone elses. Under the current system, moving chars can cause those numbers to be overwritten, which means your character, and everything attached to it, might just one day not exist anymore and you'll be out of luck with no way to recover it because someone's lvl2 veno just happened to have your number.

    However, with the new server VS server wars, they may have created a system to combat the overwriting problem, so you might be able to go play on a EU server. This system is NEW though, meaning it'll probably be buggy as heck and they won't let you switch servers without paying for something.


    2nd solution
    this is pw international, not pw usa... so start to **** care for ur international communityb:angry

    International = Two or more countries. That means USA + Canada + Mexico = International. The European countries don't have to be included in the game, but they are, and you're lucky. Be glad you're not one of the restricted countries that can't play at all just because of where you live.

    Because the servers are hosted in the US, with the majority of the players on the servers from the US, it benefits the majority of the players to have the event's centered around US timezones. Sorry you're not in the majority.

    which means, make events on different times, not all have to be at 8-9pm server time
    some could be sooner or later, so every timezone can has a event

    i say this especially with the look on the new expansion coming with the inter server tw
    as far as i know, u guys will be so **** to make it again in a usa timezone
    at least this one time, use ur chance and make the event like 3 hours earlier, its still late for europeans, but the chance we can take part is much better and for americans 5pm shouldnt be so bad too


    just stop making people angry
    u earn so much money and we dont want much, we just want to enjoy the game
    ever heared of "customer satisfaction" ?
    If they say they can't move a character to another server because of programming limitations that's a lie. PWIs servers were originally migrateable the first year. Not only that but characters with the same names can't be created on different servers so they are connected.
    Then why is it that I've made 5 different Jeremieds on the different servers?

    The only servers that currently have their databases connected are Sanctuary, Heaven's Tear, and Archosaur. All the others are separated by database limitations, and you can in fact make characters with the same names on each server, save for the three mentioned above.
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  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited October 2012
    Then why is it that I've made 5 different Jeremieds on the different servers?

    The only servers that currently have their databases connected are Sanctuary, Heaven's Tear, and Archosaur. All the others are separated by database limitations, and you can in fact make characters with the same names on each server, save for the three mentioned above.
    Actually, there's two other servers that share the same name database, but I forget which they are now.

    Merging databases is a royal PITA, and in PWI's case, won't work.
    It would, however, be extremely simple to merge the servers that do currently share the same name databases. (Why they haven't done this in the case of, say, Archosaur, I don't know.)
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  • WenSon - Harshlands
    WenSon - Harshlands Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    You're not switching accounts, you're moving characters between servers. The reason this isn't available now is because each char on each server has it's own number upon creation, and that number is what keeps all your fancy skills, coin, items, and gear attached to your character and not someone elses. Under the current system, moving chars can cause those numbers to be overwritten, which means your character, and everything attached to it, might just one day not exist anymore and you'll be out of luck with no way to recover it because someone's lvl2 veno just happened to have your number.

    However, with the new server VS server wars, they may have created a system to combat the overwriting problem, so you might be able to go play on a EU server. This system is NEW though, meaning it'll probably be buggy as heck and they won't let you switch servers without paying for something.


    International = Two or more countries. That means USA + Canada + Mexico = International. The European countries don't have to be included in the game, but they are, and you're lucky. Be glad you're not one of the restricted countries that can't play at all just because of where you live.

    Because the servers are hosted in the US, with the majority of the players on the servers from the US, it benefits the majority of the players to have the event's centered around US timezones. Sorry you're not in the majority.

    on your first thing with the numbers... (if thats the reason)
    how about, just add a number to every existing number for the server, for example LC-Server gets a 1 added, HL-Server a 2 and so on
    so u eliminate double existing numbers
    i think that could be an easy solution
    same if someone says "there could be double names"... just add an (H) in a different color behind my nickname to show my origin and i can life with that

    on ur 2nd thing with the "majority" i just thought ur an ****
    sorry... but even in case non-american(canadian,mexican) people are not the majority, they are still a **** huge part of the community and u just wanna ignore their desires and say "be lucky u can play with us"

    i say : "*** U... I DONT WANNA PLAY WITH U"... thats why i want european server
    and now that there are european servers i just want to switch what i had build up so far
    u cant say "leave ur bm, u have built up for over 2 years behind and start all over again"

    u should not only watch it from ur point of view, (i can understand u dont care so much) but try understand our point of view

    and i am not the only european player that would like to switch. i know plenty of europeans that would like to play on european server but just dont want to start all over again
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    on your first thing with the numbers... (if thats the reason)
    how about, just add a number to every existing number for the server, for example LC-Server gets a 1 added, HL-Server a 2 and so on
    so u eliminate double existing numbers
    i think that could be an easy solution
    same if someone says "there could be double names"... just add an (H) in a different color behind my nickname to show my origin and i can life with that
    That's a very good idea. That may be what's allowing the server vs server wars coming up, and like I said with the implementation of that, switching servers may be a possibility in the future.
    on ur 2nd thing with the "majority" i just thought ur an ****

    Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. :)

    sorry... but even in case non-american(canadian,mexican) people are not the majority, they are still a **** huge part of the community and u just wanna ignore their desires and say "be lucky u can play with us"

    Canadian and Mexican players nearly run off of the exact same time zones as the US players, so most do not have a conflict like the european players do. However that doesn't change the definition of "International". I'm not ignoring anyone's desires because I'm just a normal player and can do nothing to help your situation. I was just stating the facts.

    i say : "*** U... I DONT WANNA PLAY WITH U"... thats why i want european server
    and now that there are european servers i just want to switch what i had build up so far
    u cant say "leave ur bm, u have built up for over 2 years behind and start all over again"

    I never said leave your character, I just said that switching servers at this time is not possible. I think it would be an excellent idea to allow EU players to actually switch their existing characters to the EU servers, since they're so very underpopulated and have the correct timezones for you.

    u should not only watch it from ur point of view, (i can understand u dont care so much) but try understand our point of view

    I play on a west coast server from an east coast timezone. Our situations are similar, although mine is much less of a problem for me, despite the 3 hour time difference. I'd love to switch to an east coast server for better ping and correct event times so I'm not up at midnight, but I don't want to give up 3+ years of work and friends.

    and i am not the only european player that would like to switch. i know plenty of europeans that would like to play on european server but just dont want to start all over again.

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  • Oliiander - Lost City
    Oliiander - Lost City Posts: 393 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    It sounds a good idea, but even the people in the farthest stretches of the world cope reasonable well, if I'm anything to go by. (Okay. A few missed weddings and TW during school hours. But that's my fault. Exams > PWIb:shutup)
    I've grown my roots in this half dead server, and even if there were a server that suited my time, it'd be unpopulated and lonely. Q.Q
    Might just be me, but I much rather prefer being on a server where I can meet new people from all over the world, than to be in a server filled with people I could meet by taking a stroll in the local parkb:surrender

    As for switching servers . . . Imagine all the extra work there would be, if the whimsical population were given the choice to freely switch. And those people with OP gear mob ganking everyone can move between servers and **** the rest of you all off. D;
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  • Oltrenatura - Harshlands
    Oltrenatura - Harshlands Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I totally agree with WenSon! they should add the option to transfer character between american and eu servers and this would help for two things :

    1) European players that started playing pwi time ago they could finally play on europe servers without having to remake a character from beginning, and most important thing, they don't have to refarm (or cashshop) equipment all over again!!

    2)I've heard about european servers "low ppl online" problems , this would help servers to gain more active players in order to find more teams to do bh/NV and such..
  • Bashmaster - Raging Tide
    Bashmaster - Raging Tide Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I totally agree with WenSon! they should add the option to transfer character between american and eu servers and this would help for two things :

    1) European players that started playing pwi time ago they could finally play on europe servers without having to remake a character from beginning, and most important thing, they don't have to refarm (or cashshop) equipment all over again!!

    2)I've heard about european servers "low ppl online" problems , this would help servers to gain more active players in order to find more teams to do bh/NV and such..

    Why'd you necro this dumb thread
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
    Closed for necro.

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