How do I keep psychics alive?

Pretty much like any other arcane class. If I notice an arcane class will get agro of stuff, I just throw an IH on them right before the mobs decides they're sushi. Alternatively, wings of protection.

If they still die, they either got crappy gear or don't know their skills. And that really isn't your fault.

Tell them to grow up and stop stealing aggro

Psys can't survive ANYTHING, even when the boss keeps 1shotting them with AoE and you tell them to just not put on any vodoo (to not lose the defence levels, but still keep some attack), they go all QQ that they can't do any damage. Well gues what, the rest of us do just fine without vodoo

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

They usually get the hint when you use Expel on them, though.

I love doing that to squishy people and expel+purify = win b:kiss

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I just skip the purify part so they don't get aggro again b:quiet

b:laugh

Rweon - Lost City wrote: »

One of them wanted me to bb on all the bosses in 59. I haven't played for two years so I'm not sure if that's the way we do things now... b:shutup

Back in time when I leveled my both clerics I never BB for the boss in BH59, but I heard now people ask for it. Maybe it's cause they had a bad experience with a bad cleric and want to be safe, cause before that was easy to just IH on the barb back in time, but now the barb have trouble keep aggro so the cleric need to be fast if someone else take aggro to switch the heal. If I feel that someone might take aggro on the boss I'll genereally IH the tank, but throw some IH on the person that might steal aggro so if that happen the person is safe.

A good Psychic will know their limits and even if they do die, they won't blame you.
Just throw Wellspring at them followed by Ironhearts if they keep getting aggro. You can also use Expel as mentioned if you happen to have it on your genie. Other than that, if they die too much it's their own fault.

Hope they are in pk mode, go white, leave squad and use chromatic seal on them as often as possible. b:victory

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Back in time when I leveled my both clerics I never BB for the boss in BH59, but I heard now people ask for it.

Half the time the sin is expecting to tank, and most the time the arcanes make the best tanks since all bosses in Bh59 will stay ranged and use magic attacks if being attack by a ranged player. Since this is a level 70-80 BH most the sins you find will have 3-4k hp and most the AAs will only have 2-3k hp so not much hp. For sins the damage reduction of bb is more important than the actual heals since they have bb. They'll be healing almost their entire hp, but they need bubble to keep from being two shot while they do so. For instance they're hit for 2.5k while ribstriking or sparking and before they start actually attacking again they're hit for another 2k and die. BB would reduce that damage in half and they'll be dding and healing before themselves before a 3rd hit lands. Basically, a sin can die in between IH ticks =/ Same thing can happen to some arcanes who take less damage but have less hp, they have 2k hp but take 1k attacks, bb would reduce that to 500 and bb heals are enough to fully heal them since they take less damage.

The other thing that can be said for bb. Who is the tank in BH59? That classic barb tank? The blossoming aps dd that pull aggro? Or the arcanes who tank magic bosses the best? Everyone thinks its them and bh59 is a classic aggro bounce area.

Lastly, I'm sure alot of people have seen 90+ sins/BMs tank even Drake and Glut in bb and just trip spark to purify. <89s can't do that but they see "pros" using bb so they think they want it.

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

A good Psychic will know their limits and even if they do die, they won't blame you.

I agree with this. Psychics have an offensive state and a defensive stat that are both quite overpowered. If I died it was because I used the wrong marrow. If I had been in white voodoo I wouldn't have a. pulled aggro and b. been so squishy. I chose to use black voodoo, it was my fault I got aggro, and it was my fault I made myself extra squishy. Dunno how you can blame the cleric for that.

Tips, hover a pinky over WoP. It just got a shorter cd so use it more often. Its hp based but works for at least one attack. Two, wellspring. WS WS WS WS WS and eventually the psy will kite to allow you to IH, the BM will stun, or the mob will die. Three, anticipate. You see the psy double spark or start channeling before the barb has roared or set any aggro then expect the psy will gank it. Put an IH on them before it happens. Four is part of three. IH people before they have aggro because it last 15 seconds. If they get aggro in the next 15 seconds they're at least partly covered and you can consider IH as a spammable 15 second shield.

I'm a gear perver. I get in the instance first and check peoples gear as they enter or as we run in between mobs. I can guesstimate most peoples dps pretty well from -int, channeling, weapon, and refines. This way I know who to watch for and who might need an IH before the mobs even look at them "just in case".

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

I see often sins level 100+ with 4k hp so if they have 4k at level 70 too they might still have the same gears.

I personally don't check the gears, some people do a fantastic job with **** gears as some do really bad job with OP gears.

Most people get their hp from refines and shards and they don't heavily invest in that till 100 gear. A sin with 5 vit and TT70 +3 and 20 flawless citrines won't have much different hp than a tt90/r8 sin with +3 gear, 5 vit, and 20 flawless citrines. 3-4k I think is average in the 70-80 range and around 5-6k in the 100-101 range, from my experience. I see some 9k hp level 80 sins and some 3.8k level 100+ sins though.

I was dual clienting for WBs last night. My BM is 4 aps G16 claws only refined +4, and the tank should have been a 4 aps DoT R9+11 demon sin (with lvl 11 mastery). I was trying to time my HF to their spark while clericing with "alt tab" but was just using bubble. Easily, they should have had aggro. I kept switch back to my BM to find I was tanking although I'm around 120k dps and they're around 170k dps and I was HFing/TMing for them. I think they must have been dual clienting a delta run or something.

I hold to checking gears is a good thing and gives you ideas of what to expect but its not a rule that better dps gears = better player. It just allows you to guesstimate and be ahead of the curve. A little knowledge is never a bad thing.

I also check as a cleric because I like to know if my barb is gonna tank Seat/Metal using physical/evasion ornies instead of magic ornaments and die insanely fast. Plus, this game can be played by all ages (I have a friend who sits with his 8 year old autistic son, and a 70+ grandma in my faction) and is simple enough that it doesn't take too much gear difference for even crappy players to compete with great players with poorer gear by just face rolling f1,f2,f3. All I'm looking to do is predict. As we play I'll combine what I saw of their gear with what I see of them as a player and use that towards guessing the best way to heal.

A similar example I know you and I argue about is the pure vs. vit build clerics. On my barb I look at my clerics gear and hp/mp and guess their heal strength. The more vit, the smaller my pulls. If the cleric sucks, I just saved our butts. Good vit/LA/HA clerics heal as well as AA cleric's but I want to gauge it first. If I see a pure cleric with decent heals they can suck more and I'll still probably live, so bigger pulls and faster run. Gear I can see, their build I can guess, their skill I have to experiment to find out, and all that combined helps me figure out how fast I can go, how much I can pull, and how to best do it.

I multiboxed a Psychic and Cleric from 70-79, doing BH59 every day. At first, I had the Psych tanking all the bosses, but I soon realized it was more efficient to let the Cleric tank because that way both characters could do damage. The Cleric had no problem whatsoever holding aggro.

I also multiboxed a Cleric and Sin up to level-82. Did them exactly the same way, as well as the Cleric and Barb I leveled up. I ALWAYS laugh my butt off when I see this on WC: "Tank needed for BH59."

Whenever I go to RoR I always check out other players' gear. It dumbfounds me how many of them are equipped primarily with white npc gear. They'll have very nice fashion, but their gear totally sucks. As a Cleric, I'm not going to lose any sleep when a shoddily equipped squishy dies -- I figure if you've got enough money for fashion, you've got no business equipping **** gear. If you're ultra squishy, it's your own damned fault, not mine.

RE: Use of BB.

I'm old school. The only place I BB for a non-multiboxed squad (below BH89) is in TT. Too many neo-clerics are lazy (or don't know any better). A good cleric will know beforehand who's likely to steal aggro from the designated tank and will be appropriately prepared. The biggest problem with BB is the Cleric is relegated to doing nothing. I hate that -- surely, the Cleric's first obligation is to keep squadmates healthy, but that doesn't prevent her from getting a few shots on the boss as appropriate. When I first started playing this game, a Cleric that only healed or debuffed was thought of as a bad thing. I still believe that.

Addiction to BB is probably why so many first-time clerics struggle with BH69. And speaking of which, I've been multiboxing my Cleric and Barb in BH69 since they reached level-80. So far, there hasn't been so much as a close call.