Guide to Successfully Solo/Duo Phoenix Valley

XXZeonXx - Harshlands
XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Seeker
This guide is mostly for Seekers level 59+ with Yataghan Vortex.

I think that an AoE class like a Seeker may work well in PV at the lower levels (anything under 59) with a cleric. I suggest only bringing a cleric though, if you're looking for exp, because of course, bringing more people means less experience. Those classes who want to go alone and don't have AoEs to assist them would most likely have to lure one mob at a time, which would be very monotonous, but I'm not exactly sure as this Seeker is my first and only character.

I'm also not sure about PV for any other classes at higher levels, though I have seen some people looking for PV squads in the 45-84 level range. I can only personally speak for Seekers, though. Once you get to 59 with any Seeker, you're capable of soloing PV. Yataghan Vortex is physical and therefore compatible with Bloodpaint, while Seekers also have the survivability to tank whatever else is needed. In the higher levels, the Equine Shades will start to immobilize and silence you, so you have to move quickly and set up vortex as fast as possible. With hypers at 59+, Seekers can solo PV with Bloodpaint for up to 600-800k+ spirit and 2mil+ experience per successful run.

I have a Sin partner that I do PV with every day he's available, and when he's not I solo. Eventually, after doing it for long enough, you start to get good at it. The level 75 crab and herb pots are extremely useful here. For Seekers, usually the process involves..

1. Build up enough chi for Vortex.
2. Lure out any shades that you can without getting close enough to take aggro from the other mobs using Heartseeker/Arme Nier/Battousai.
3. Tab or click on a the furthest Shade you can get to without running too close to other Shades that you couldn't reach to lue out. (If you run by these other shades they will either immobilize or silence, and in most cases you will die from this due to inability to set vortex up fast enough.)
4. Turn your hyper on.
5. Unfetter to this Shade as quickly as possible (If you run slowly, you have a higher chance of getting immobilized/silenced before you get close enough to vortex it.), grabbing as many non-Shade mobs as you can during the process before Unfetter wears out.
6. As you come near your target Shade, activate Blade Affinity, and start your vortex. With a combination of increased running speed and increased channeling, you should be able to get vortex started before the horde of mobs catch up to you, or before you get silenced by the Shade.
7. Spam MP pots (and HP pots if you want to be extra careful) and watch everything around you die as you continuously heal yourself for thousands of HP per second with Bloodpaint.
8. If you have a Sin partner, keep up Vortex while they Maze Steps through another large group of mobs (Maze Steps in order to avoid the immobilize from the Shades) and bring as many as possible back into your vortex. Be careful to those Sins who play this role, as you may die as a result of taking too many hits along the way. I suggest using HP pots while you do this. Usually I give my Sin partner some crabs for him to use just for this step.
9. Watch all of the mobs around you die once again. Usually this is when my Sin partner uses Subsea Strike, and I'll have my genie use Tangling Mire, just to kill everything a bit faster.
10. Turn off hypers and repeat from step one by luring the closest mob with Heartseeker/Arme Nier/Battousai. Anything that can hit them without getting close enough to take aggro from everything around them.

Once you get to the boss, you may be able to tank it with vortex/crabs/Bloodpaint. Always debuff with Heart Shatter and Soulsever before setting up vortex at the boss, if you can. If you can't tank the boss, then it's fine, 95% or more of the experience from PV runs comes from the mobs, so you've pretty much had a successful run. That's..about it.

If you're soloing this instead of doing it with a partner Sin, then skip steps eight and nine. Also, soloers, your goal as a Seeker is this; "KILL EVERYTHING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT BLOODPAINT WON'T WEAR OFF." Usually if I'm soloing, I'll stop with about five minutes left on the Token to go outside into Archosaur and beg some Sin to refresh my Bloodpaint, just to be safe.

And if you are doing this with a partner Sin, then PLEASE remind this Sin to refresh your Bloodpaint every one or two lures, even if it seems excessive. The worst thing that can happen to you is to run out of Bloodpaint right in the middle of a vortex or a huge pull, only to die and watch your Sin partner (if you have one) go into stealth before a moment of silence eventually drags out the question, "..Cleric?", because you've noticed that your token to come back expired.

Because I just reached 85, I haven't gotten a chance to really do the 85-94 PV yet, although I do know that the dungeon and mobs are completely different, and that a complete run would give a LOT more exp and spirit than the lower level ranges (of course). I also need to start learning how to make the use of more PvP pots, as I haven't looked into them at all yet, and I'm sure they'll be useful for PV and more.

I'll update this as I remember more information that I might have possibly forgotten, or when I explore the 85-94 PV, to keep things fresh.

Happy learning, exploring, and leveling, everyone.
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  • _Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver
    _Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I've been soloing PV since the low 80's and its great fun, really easy too. Just pop a crab meat/HP pot, round up a ton of mobs, blade affinity and then vortex. The only buff you really need is BP but other buffs help too. Great fun and pretty good exp when hypered - I would reccomend skipping the boss though as the cost of pots for just him alone isn't worth the exp in my opinion
  • OMarvelous - Sanctuary
    OMarvelous - Sanctuary Posts: 339 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Yep solo PV is fun. I also recommend skipping the boss. Higher level PV is much of the same, bunch of mobs, with a few silence, slow, freeze mobs to mess ya up.

    Maybe a nitpick but between steps 6&7 maybe you should mention they should start Vortexing :P
  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Lol, thanks. Edited.
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  • Notso - Raging Tide
    Notso - Raging Tide Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    This was actualy really helpful - please sticky this somoebody. A couple a days ago I tried soloing PV 60-74, and it really frustrated me, because I knew I should be able to do it.

    I can tidy the text up for you if you want?
  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    How about solo PV without BP?
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  • _Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver
    _Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Without BP it would be a mission, I'd say not worth doing cause you can't handle that many mobs at once.

    For info I've tried the 95+ instance and its really tough for my level without full buffs, and even with its quite tough. I don't think I'd recommend it unless your really well geared and charmed (my gear is pretty good but there's probably slightly better and higher refines)
  • ITzDevious - Lost City
    ITzDevious - Lost City Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Thanks for the guide. Been looking for something like this. If possible, could someone make a vid? Someone should sticky this.
  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    This was actualy really helpful - please sticky this somoebody. A couple a days ago I tried soloing PV 60-74, and it really frustrated me, because I knew I should be able to do it.

    I can tidy the text up for you if you want?

    Umm.. Sure. And if you all find it useful, then I hope it gets stickied, but if it's not, then we should let it die. Hopefully a mod/admin will see soon and decide.
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  • HerSeeker - Sanctuary
    HerSeeker - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Going to start trying this this weekend with my partner cleric instead of bp, to see how it goes. Too low for vortex, so it'll be kinda.....interesting....
  • HildieGarde - Heavens Tear
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    FYI, you can solo PV starting in the 30's using the 2-3 AOEs. Stalagstrike, Cloud Bolt and Ion Spike. No need to wait for Vortex although I'm sure it is going to be much easier once I get it.

    It is essential to have BloodPaint if you want to pull a large number of mob at once so either get BP before you enter or bring a sin.

    Other things necessary are Pots. I use Life powder, lvl 25 Multiflavor Jiaozi (2500 HP heal over 10 secs) + HP Charm. You might get away without the charm and Jiaozi, but will have to take on much fewer at a time. If you can't find Jiaozi the lvl 30 Orb of Vibrating Light pot may work instead.

    Anyway with this combo I can take on as many mob as I can pull at once while avoiding the Magic Mob (I haven't counted but it is probably around 10-20 at once.) You should take Magic Mob out separately as they have an annoying stun which can get you killed in a big pull. Another method is to Voidstep to the Magic Mob, Alpha Male and then AOE. (do this only when the Magic Mob is not next to another Magic Mob)

    It is great XP especially when using Hypers. 1-2 levels per run.

    Although I am able to take down the end boss, it really eats into my charm and pots, so I would avoid him unless you have a healer in your party.
  • mrcharlytoo
    mrcharlytoo Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Could we have this stickied, please?

    There is a lot of interest in this info - but from a thread started in the Dungeon area.
  • supertroyman1
    supertroyman1 Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    any tips for pv 100+ specifically?
    my seeker is 101 with pve 101 gear +3 except for wep wich is pv 95 and 7k hp. im working on upgrading the weapon to the 101 verzion and getting te zrmor to +5. my genie also has expel. will this be enough to solo it?
  • _eVeReL_ - Sanctuary
    _eVeReL_ - Sanctuary Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    @supertroyman, if ur 101 u cud hav had an easier job lvling form 100 simply by soloing PV once a day. Yes, ur gear setup is sufficient to solo PV. But really, it all comes down to how many mobs u pull and the timing of ur hp pots and genie skills.

    @OP, may i recommend you break down the guide into a more step-by-step approach, like required pots for each lvl range, recommended hp / gear setup, and for anyone 92+ i really recommend u get sage unfetter and sage blade affinity, they are invaluable in setting up vortex and avoiding stuns. Also, having the emissary pots r xtremely helpful, as well as having tangling mire or another dmg increase genie skill. As a strategy, try and use unfetter then switch to holy path after 2 or 3 seconds, bcuz unfetter by itself will get u killed if u hav low hp b:thanks
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  • StellaNova - Raging Tide
    StellaNova - Raging Tide Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    This guide is mostly for Seekers level 59+ with Yataghan Vortex

    like this, but, further down, crab and herb lv 75 is usefull, IF these has a big importance to follow the guide, shouldn't the header be:

    This guide is mostly for Seekers level 75+ with Yataghan Vortex

    But with with that said, it's for sure something i will try out with my low lvl Seeker
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  • supertroyman1
    supertroyman1 Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    @supertroyman, if ur 101 u cud hav had an easier job lvling form 100 simply by soloing PV once a day. Yes, ur gear setup is sufficient to solo PV. But really, it all comes down to how many mobs u pull and the timing of ur hp pots and genie skills.

    @OP, may i recommend you break down the guide into a more step-by-step approach, like required pots for each lvl range, recommended hp / gear setup, and for anyone 92+ i really recommend u get sage unfetter and sage blade affinity, they are invaluable in setting up vortex and avoiding stuns. Also, having the emissary pots r xtremely helpful, as well as having tangling mire or another dmg increase genie skill. As a strategy, try and use unfetter then switch to holy path after 2 or 3 seconds, bcuz unfetter by itself will get u killed if u hav low hp b:thanks

    ive been doing it since 75 since thats when i could use the strong mp pots to perma vortex. but i guess im just not strong enough for 100+ yet. ik i can solo 95+ though and thas what ive been doing.
  • FlailSticks - Heavens Tear
    FlailSticks - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    at 100+pv is stoopid good, 103-105 in a few months..recomend Shroud PV token for another 15 min of funb:nosebleed
  • supertroyman1
    supertroyman1 Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    ive been doing it since 75 since thats when i could use the strong mp pots to perma vortex. but i guess im just not strong enough for 100+ yet. ik i can solo 95+ though and thas what ive been doing.

    nvm i finally figured out what i was doing wronge. takes awile but i can do the 100+ now
  • coolpw12
    coolpw12 Posts: 1
    edited November 2012
    Love that race
  • Akan - Momaganon
    Akan - Momaganon Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    46 days from 103 to 105 soloing PV100+. Used charger orbs and a 130+ mag genie with holy-path / cloud eruption to speed it up. 6 runs in a row is possible but leaves very little room for mistakes or multiple freezes.

    Tricky part can sometimes be moving fast but not so fast that mobs reset too early, but 3 pulls should be enough to get almost all mobs in one run.