Carebear Hate :(

KitKatAngel - Archosaur
KitKatAngel - Archosaur Posts: 11 Arc User
edited November 2012 in General Discussion
So just my thoughts, but am I the only one that thinks Carebears get too much hate? Being one myself, I've been sent nasty messages and open chat hate because I prefer to help people instead of ganking everything that moves. b:surrender

And people have called me "noob" because :
  • I dont PK, gank or PvP in general
  • I'm always randomly buffing people, because I want to
  • I didn't power level to level 90
  • I don't use the cash shop
  • And I don't have +12 refined gear

Anyone agree?
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  • lordhanzo
    lordhanzo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    depends on the carebear.. if the carebear is annoying i'd hate them too, but if the carebear is a decent person, i'd want to be their friend.

    ...same with PKers/ PVPers, or CSers.
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Noob question, what is a care bear b:surrender?
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Noob question, what is a care bear b:surrender?

    In resume someone that don't PK/PvP.

    To be honest not everyone like PvP and I think it's why there's PvE server, if someone on a PvE server is call a Care bear than just tell them they should have go on HL and LC if they wanted a real PvP. I love PvP, but I have my moments more Care bear, I don't really care what people think about me, I do what I enjoy. ;)
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    In resume someone that don't PK/PvP.

    Thank you, but isn't arch server a PVE server? It does not make sense to call someone a care bear on a pve server b:worried. It is called, made, has rules in place as a pve server for a reason, and adhering to the said rules makes on a bad player? Odd logic. By that same token, the people who PK on PVP servers are carebears of PVP servers b:cute

    I understand if on a PVP server, and someone does not like killing other people, that is fine, call them a carebear b:dirty (the joys of carebare cartoon from the yesteryears).

    Maybe they are jealous of your name KitKatAngel, and want to eat you, but since you are blue named, the only option left is to degrade and hope miracles happen. Humans don't make sense, don't ask b:shutup.
  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    PK is soooOOOooOOOOoooooooOOOooooOOooooooOOooOoOoOooooooooo unbalanced in this game its pityful due to the heavy csing..imo,just like the TW's,Pvp prob better on a pvp server but on a PvE server to me its kinda stupid to have to have a certain area to pk in,or annouce "pk at west arch come join us"..how dumb is that.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'm not much into PvP/TW/Pk myself. I prefer PvE things and just doing fun things with friends and faction. I don't care what people think of me :P
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Wow this is one thing sanct is tamed with. I've never been dissed for not wanting to PvP, and no one has, in public at least, voiced complaints about being ragged for being PVE only.

    nothing wrong with helping people, it feels good to do it.

    And PK is stressful and seriously unbalanced, I don't know how the PvPers put up with it but whatever is fun for them I guess.
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    PvP on PvE servers is stupid anyway. Everyone just sits around for hours with every buff imaginable asking for fights...
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  • CynthiaDoll - Raging Tide
    CynthiaDoll - Raging Tide Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So just my thoughts, but am I the only one that thinks Carebears get too much hate? Being one myself, I've been sent nasty messages and open chat hate because I prefer to help people instead of ganking everything that moves. b:surrender

    And people have called me "noob" because :
    • I dont PK, gank or PvP in general
    • I'm always randomly buffing people, because I want to
    • I didn't power level to level 90
    • I don't use the cash shop
    • And I don't have +12 refined gear

    Anyone agree?

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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    anyone who gives a lvl 47 cleric **** for not PKing is full on r-tard
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  • Esnemyl - Dreamweaver
    Esnemyl - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,079 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So just my thoughts, but am I the only one that thinks Carebears get too much hate? Being one myself, I've been sent nasty messages and open chat hate because I prefer to help people instead of ganking everything that moves. b:surrender

    (Ill use this as a checklist, and comment on each one)
    • I dont PK, gank or PvP in general
      I cant really say anythign about this. PK is dead in DW other than Morai, Theatre of Blood and TW o_o
    • I'm always randomly buffing people, because I want to
      I love doing this on my cleric, but I havent had any trouble so far. I always say thank you to clerics who randomly buff me :)
    • I didn't power level to level 90
      I actually got some shtick for not abusing the goons glitch. I knew it was wrong to cheat, so I didn't do it. In those 'Days of Goon' as I called em, I was rejected from every single squad because I didn't want to Goon; and the squads I did manage, nobody knew how to play their class. I tried to lead them but they screamed "Dont tell me how to play!" b:surrender
      This is my original character. I began playing her in 2009, and I have finished every single damn quest I can do in my limit. I'm proud of doing my questing, as it is the place to learn how to play your class b:kiss
    • I don't use the cash shop
      I only use the CS for mana charms, fash, and if I need a new flyer. I do get told off for not being mainstream and buying all my rank gear b:tired I dont exactly live off the bank of dad, and I'd rather farm for my gear.
    • And I don't have +12 refined gear
      Eeyup. I've been rejected from a few BH's for this because most of my gear is abotu or under +3

    Anyone agree?

    I do! All my comments are in purple :)
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  • Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver
    Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So just my thoughts, but am I the only one that thinks Carebears get too much hate? Being one myself, I've been sent nasty messages and open chat hate because I prefer to help people instead of ganking everything that moves. b:surrender

    And people have called me "noob" because :
    • I dont PK, gank or PvP in general
    • I'm always randomly buffing people, because I want to
    • I didn't power level to level 90
    • I don't use the cash shop
    • And I don't have +12 refined gear

    Anyone agree?

    ignore nasty comments...bl them if they give you more than 1...keep doin wutcha do best :D

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  • KitKatAngel - Archosaur
    KitKatAngel - Archosaur Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Oh guys, kinda off topic, but my avatar has glitched. I am in fact level 49 and Aware of Coalescence! Just so you know
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    PvP in this game its too unbalanced to begin with.

    Usually the one with bigger Credit Card wins(Unless its a total idiot who doesn't known how to PvP).
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Usually the one with bigger Credit Card wins

    It's so weird how the game parodies life in general. b:chuckle
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Thank you, but isn't arch server a PVE server? It does not make sense to call someone a care bear on a pve server b:worried.

    THIS. It's pretentious to the extreme for anyone on a PvE server to label others as carebears. I do disagree with Jaabg on wether there's any grounds for calling a PvE oriented player in a PvP server a carebear, as in principle they're at least ready to defend themselves at any moment, even if they don't actively PK. Call me old school but I'll stick to the basic principle that EVERYONE on a PvE server is a carebear, even if they've been white/red named for years; It's a very different proposition to level/gear for endgame with the option of avoiding PvP. Having said this, there's always been some players in PvP servers who believe they have some sort of claim to leetness for the mere fact of their server choice alone. There's as many noobs in any type of server and P2Win could arguably be said to play a much bigger role in the "success" of many PvPers... It is in fact the sole rational reason (other than perhaps the challenge itself or being an obsessive completionist) to go for endgame choices such as R9r. It's really not as bad as it used to be however, in fact I rarely see PvP'ers vocally challenging carebears anymore, which may have something to do with griefers having been given free run of their servers and the impact this has had on population.
    PvP on PvE servers is stupid anyway. Everyone just sits around for hours with every buff imaginable asking for fights...

    Yes and no. Arguably PK mode on PvE servers does tend to attract much of the community's bottom of the barrel scum, but in general the much lower tactical accumen of most regulars (which rely heavily on ganking or who congratulate each other for extremely long fights; true PvP requires the ability for you to deliver a coup de grace in under 10 secs) does open far more opportunities for fun, engaging game play for those prepared, even if undergeared.

    And while we are on the subject, you know it never gets old http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znvxNyJLzVo
  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So just my thoughts, but am I the only one that thinks Carebears get too much hate? Being one myself, I've been sent nasty messages and open chat hate because I prefer to help people instead of ganking everything that moves. b:surrender

    And people have called me "noob" because :
    • I dont PK, gank or PvP in general
    • I'm always randomly buffing people, because I want to
    • I didn't power level to level 90
    • I don't use the cash shop
    • And I don't have +12 refined gear

    Anyone agree?

    Not many liked too PK here, even in the past before it became so inbalanced through CS'ing; so you shouldn't let that part of it get to you...


    As for the healing & buffing others bit ~ thats a good thing, lots of us do it with both our clerics & mystics (even while PK'ing) I don't mind having my pk chari's getting dropped when the ones who do it to them then rez & buff them afterwards and then head off too hunt others so you can go back to either questing or hunting yourself) so if people are harassing you over that, then just write down there names on a blacklist and then never help heal them or buff them, should you ever run across them on the game (let them learn what they're mouths can really cause them) Its worked for lots of us in the past too shut'em up.....LOLOL b:dirty


    Thank God, on the (No Power level) bit ~ it seems like theres less & less of anyone who wants to truely play the game anymore where the FC fail Babies got too buy their ways too (no-punishments) where the rest of us got shafted by {PWEs} gutless reaction too they're mass violations of the {ToS} rules... So I'm proud to see a newer player whos doing the old school methods for leveling in the game (because your a rarity in game now a days, aswell as a relief too the rest of us who are (old schoolers) in the game, since you'll actually know how too play your characters & use their skills properly....b:chuckle


    Theres nothing really wrong with CSing so long as you don't try too instantly buy your way too end game supremacy before learning all the things you can about how too play the game properly (Its only when people who don't gotta clue about anything end up buying their way too supremacy that the rest of the CSrs truly end up with bad reputations)


    LMAOOooo!!!! (b:laugh) Not many can actually afford that level of gearings now a days with the way the in-game Inflation is going on all the servers ^V^ and the cost for real life Money nearly makes you have to go to a bank to get a loan.....ROFLMAO!!!!!b:laugh



    But as for your question about carebear hate & all, the only time I've had hate issues on carebears is on the PK servers, and is when you single drop them on the fields (no repeat grief kills or (no chance to win) low lv dropping) and then they constantly whine and complain & even threaten too file a ticket on you (that you ruined the world by only dropping them once) so they cry like little babies who just watched their puppies get microwaved (those carebears are the ones that I don't like since they should leave the PvPs & play only on the PvE servers, but still stick on the PvPs).... But that problems the one that the chats blacklist option is best for fixing...
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It's so weird how the game parodies life in general. b:chuckle

    I see this in badminton at times b:chuckle. Sometimes you see a guy/girl walk in, all decked out in yonex shirt/short/skirt, shoes, wrist band, bag, racquets. They often have the top of the range racquet to boot. Looking cool and pro, with the air that they are awesome players. When they get on the court, their equipment cries tears of blood. Equipment does help, but no skill is still no skill in the game, the equipment won't help one get it, but might motivate one to learn if they get over the frustration of losing.

    MANray_ - I agree, i was just trying to think how someone on the other side might see it. Very confusing let me tell you. Personally i am all for equipping npc gear lvl 50 on people, along with that weapon, and have people go nuts in pvp. Casters will naturally have the edge here, but all the more fun. Once gear is equalized, it comes down to skill, genie, apoc and how well a person can click.
  • Ripokeke - Sanctuary
    Ripokeke - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    One point comes to mind as it bewilders me why people don't like buffs. I only buff people when they are killing mobs. I think one reason could be they are dueling when u buffed one of them, maybe?

    b:chuckle
  • Sidwinder - Heavens Tear
    Sidwinder - Heavens Tear Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The last time I pvped I was in my 80's and genie's just came out it was a TW. Today unless you have r9 +10-12 and the best gear it's kinda pointless depending on your class.
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    One point comes to mind as it bewilders me why people don't like buffs. I only buff people when they are killing mobs. I think one reason could be they are dueling when u buffed one of them, maybe?

    b:chuckle

    I don't like it when clerics buff me with hp/mp regen when I already have one on. Often times i use apoc items that give 50~100 mp/hp regen while farming. Other buffs are welcome, but overwriting my apoc buff makes me sad b:sad. All other class buffs are welcome :D.
  • Cathulion - Dreamweaver
    Cathulion - Dreamweaver Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So just my thoughts, but am I the only one that thinks Carebears get too much hate? Being one myself, I've been sent nasty messages and open chat hate because I prefer to help people instead of ganking everything that moves. b:surrender

    And people have called me "noob" because :
    • I dont PK, gank or PvP in general
    • I'm always randomly buffing people, because I want to
    • I didn't power level to level 90
    • I don't use the cash shop
    • And I don't have +12 refined gear

    Anyone agree?


    I'd be friends with you whether you were a carebear or not, I really don't like PK either, and I know some people don't like to power level at all. I've honestly never heard of the term carebear on my server ever.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    If you are lower than level 90 and someone call you a Carebear the person is just stupid.

    Hun if you are level 47 don't worry about what people think. Do what you like with your friends and if other people want to PvP they are free to do it. :)
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  • lordhanzo
    lordhanzo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I don't like it when clerics buff me with hp/mp regen when I already have one on. Often times i use apoc items that give 50~100 mp/hp regen while farming. Other buffs are welcome, but overwriting my apoc buff makes me sad b:sad. All other class buffs are welcome :D.

    ooh I know that feeling b:surrender

    makes me want to scream "GURL!! WAT R U DOIN??"
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I've honestly never heard of the term carebear on my server ever.

    Because you and I both play on a PvE server :3
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  • FaIIyn - Lost City
    FaIIyn - Lost City Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Farm NV3 then if you do not want to CS r9. I kill many R9s and I have no R9.
  • Samaela - Dreamweaver
    Samaela - Dreamweaver Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Because you and I both play on a PvE server :3

    I was called a carebear once on DW b:sad
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I was called a carebear once on DW b:sad

    Did you 5APS the offender to death?
  • KOIBI - Heavens Tear
    KOIBI - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    PK is soooOOOooOOOOoooooooOOOooooOOooooooOOooOoOoOooooooooo unbalanced in this game its pityful due to the heavy csing..imo,just like the TW's,Pvp prob better on a pvp server but on a PvE server to me its kinda stupid to have to have a certain area to pk in,or annouce "pk at west arch come join us"..how dumb is that.
    game is made in china XDDD ofc its unbalanced lol anyway ppl call u carebear 1: u not pk against 10 ppl alone and u was in safe zone xD 2: ur low level and hight level noob wants to get more killed ppl ^^'

    pvp in pve server is stupid true that..
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