Spawn Killing In TW

Kargoror - Lost City
Kargoror - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Suggestion Box
so i dont know what the rules or what ever is but it seems majorly unfair that you can be spawn killed in tw. cause you have no health, no buffs and you cant use skills and ppl keep nuking the spawn point. there has got to be some way to fix that cause thats happened three tw in a row now.
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  • Spinnaker - Raging Tide
    Spinnaker - Raging Tide Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Here is an idea. Don't let the bad guys in your house and you wont have that problem. Spawn killing DURING a TW is an accepted action used to control your enemies forces. AFTER the war is over is a different story. At that point its each players and or players faction that decides what they do.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Here's a topgear top tip for you.
    Move away from the spawn.

    If your faction is standing there all the same spot, you are simply asking to be slaughtered like the sheep you are. Move to the left or right, there's a huge open area still protected by the spawn towers there.

    And yes, spawn killing is a valid tactic. It ensures your enemy's defence is sealed and chi less for another 15 or so seconds, thus giving you extra hits on the crystal b:bye
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  • Kargoror - Lost City
    Kargoror - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    idk somehow being nuked by r9 ranged classes over and over again 10 sec after you spawn just dont seem right, what's the point having guard towers next to spawn if they don't do jack ****?
    It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Kargoror - Lost City wrote: »
    idk somehow being nuked by r9 ranged classes over and over again 10 sec after you spawn just dont seem right, what's the point having guard towers next to spawn if they don't do jack ****?

    Did you even take the time to read what I said? Move away from the spawn point.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Also don't run into the enemy unbuffed, i see many people sometime die while we are on their crystal and beside wait to buff they run to the enemy without any buff.
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  • Kargoror - Lost City
    Kargoror - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i guess i'm not making myself clear, they pot run in aoe the spawn and run out and when you have several r9 doing that there is no time to leave spawn, or when a seeker pots and vortex on spawn point, thats bs i'm talking about. And i'm in r8 gear i can't take more than one hit from r9 especially the ones that are 3rd cast.
    It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Kargoror - Lost City wrote: »
    i guess i'm not making myself clear, they pot run in aoe the spawn and run out and when you have several r9 doing that there is no time to leave spawn, or when a seeker pots and vortex on spawn point, thats bs i'm talking about. And i'm in r8 gear i can't take more than one hit from r9 especially the ones that are 3rd cast.

    It was a attack war or defense war for your faction?
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  • Kargoror - Lost City
    Kargoror - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    we were attacking for the 4th time on this territory
    It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Kargoror - Lost City wrote: »
    we were attacking for the 4th time on this territory

    You guys should maybe try a other land if you know you can't beat them, beside come here and complain about spawn killing.
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  • Kargoror - Lost City
    Kargoror - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    first of all i'm not the leader so i don't make that call and second of all don't matter if we were attacking them or defending from them or attacking any where else what's the point of spawn towers if they don't do jack ****? i wouldn't care as much if they weren't there but since they are i do, tw can be won by like 5 ppl even if other side has 80, that is bull ****.
    It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.
  • BriarIce - Raging Tide
    BriarIce - Raging Tide Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Kargoror - Lost City wrote: »
    first of all i'm not the leader so i don't make that call and second of all don't matter if we were attacking them or defending from them or attacking any where else what's the point of spawn towers if they don't do jack ****? i wouldn't care as much if they weren't there but since they are i do, tw can be won by like 5 ppl even if other side has 80, that is bull ****.

    Short answer there are no rules against spawn killing. It is a part of TW so it is best to accept that it will happen. You get people who do and do not agree with it and you often get both of these types of people in every TW faction.

    Unfortunately expressing your strong opinions about not liking it will only get you negative attention and will not stop it from happening.

    Changing your expectations of it might help you to accept that it will happen and what to do about it. The suggestion to come off the platform from the side as opposed to straight ahead, works, at times. As does teleporting out of there as soon as the TW is over (as this is when a lot of spawn killing takes place too).

    Hope you enjoy the rest of your TWs b:cute
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  • Kargoror - Lost City
    Kargoror - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    its not after tw is over i'm concerned about, its during tw thats the prob, they have cata's on hq and the ranged classes sit between hq and spawn point and aoes the towers on either side of spawn, i'm sorry but thats not fair tw or tw at all. and if it keeps happening i don't want to do tw anymore cause then it just becomes a race to who can start aoe'n first.
    It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Kargoror - Lost City wrote: »
    its not after tw is over i'm concerned about, its during tw thats the prob, they have cata's on hq and the ranged classes sit between hq and spawn point and aoes the towers on either side of spawn, i'm sorry but thats not fair tw or tw at all. and if it keeps happening i don't want to do tw anymore cause then it just becomes a race to who can start aoe'n first.

    My point is, the rules said that if a faction bid on a other faction they need to think they have a REAL chance to win, in the other case it could be see as a fake bid. If you say you can't even move of your spawn point at all, that mean the other faction have a huge advantage on you (gears/lvl/experience or w/e), so in that case it's your leader that should stop to bid on a faction knowing his faction will lose, he should bid somewhere esle where you guys gonna have a real chance, which will make your TW way much fun for everyone.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Kargoror - Lost City wrote: »
    its not after tw is over i'm concerned about, its during tw thats the prob, they have cata's on hq and the ranged classes sit between hq and spawn point and aoes the towers on either side of spawn, i'm sorry but thats not fair tw or tw at all. and if it keeps happening i don't want to do tw anymore cause then it just becomes a race to who can start aoe'n first.

    If your entire faction has been pushed back all the way to your spawn the TW is already over. If you really feel the need to respawn at that point you should use a sutra pot to protect yourself (yes you can use apothecary items while sealed).
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  • Kargoror - Lost City
    Kargoror - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    so you're saying that if you're not an 3rd cast r9 guild don't bother with tw
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Kargoror - Lost City wrote: »
    so you're saying that if you're not an 3rd cast r9 guild don't bother with tw

    I'm in a faction call CrimsonJr on Harshlands, the majority of people in that faction are alts of many factions on the server (it's not a alts guild of a main faction, it's a guild with alts of every factions on the server).

    I think we have about 2-3 R9 max and not even 3rd recast, we have people lvl60-102, majority of people have bad-normal gears and we beat main TW factions that have many R9. We do TW for fun and we do miracles in our TW.

    Your faction have maybe a really bad organization and communication. People had the bad habit to think that gears is everything in TW. Organization, communication, team work, skilled people and attitude is for a lot.

    Seeing how you complain, you don't look like to enjoy TW and beside to try to find why you guys are bad, you complain about the other faction, gears and etc.

    Do your faction use vent/TS for TW? Is everyone in your guild listen order or they rambo like it was PvP, how many of you show? Do your formation is good or it's random? There's probably a lot of reasons why you guys are not good in TW.

    I don't say that to be mean, it's just that complain wont help your faction, check the mistake you guys do, try to find idea to improve how you guys work in TW...etc.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Kargoror - Lost City wrote: »
    i guess i'm not making myself clear, they pot run in aoe the spawn and run out and when you have several r9 doing that there is no time to leave spawn, or when a seeker pots and vortex on spawn point, thats bs i'm talking about. And i'm in r8 gear i can't take more than one hit from r9 especially the ones that are 3rd cast.

    O you made yourself pritty clear.
    Everyone here knows what spawn killing is.

    Gues what? After his 10 seconds of invincibility are up, he dies. So than you ress, move to the LEFT or RIGHT, away from the spawn point (but still safe behind the towers).
    Than you chi up, buf up as a faction. And try to push them back. Is that really so hard?
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  • MetzliDemon - Harshlands
    MetzliDemon - Harshlands Posts: 354 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I understand him in a part... Once a r9 wiz didn't let go of me, i revived, he 1shot me, i revived again, he 1shot me again, and on and on... -.-
    That wasn't during a tw but i know the feeling of can't do anything because those annoying r9 players don't let you even stand up... :\
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    MetzliDemon - Harshlands wrote: »
    I understand him in a part... Once a r9 wiz didn't let go of me, i revived, he 1shot me, i revived again, he 1shot me again, and on and on... -.-
    That wasn't during a tw but i know the feeling of can't do anything because those annoying r9 players don't let you even stand up... :\

    You do realize you could just go to town and end up in a safe zone right?
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