BH Lunar

You do realize essence of defence are worth like 3mil right?

Sizzer - Raging Tide wrote: »

Exactly +1 Do a Full Lunar is worth the fee just depends on luck who will get it . b:pleased

Or your fee your essence.
Done, everyone happy, noone lost any money

Skulla - Dreamweaver wrote: »

But getting into the instance and running it is the trick. Forming squads takes forever, it's worse forming BH Lunar than any other squad. Why? What could be the reason? Oh wait, I know... the FEE!

Wrong. Try form EU.. b:surrender and it's even free.
Full delta also isn't easy to form and it's free. So blame it on lazyness rather then fee.
Anyway, no need to make things even easier then they are...

Is OP really serious about this?

World chat " Bh Lunar, full free, Free, pm for invite" I assure you a blue wall will happen. If there is no blue wall, your server is not really populated or people have no idea how to do lunar.

There are card bosses in lunar b:shocked, there are 2 of them, they have been there since eons, 2 card bosses = 3m fee paid for free.

There is essence of defense = 3m.

There are 3 wygie bosses = good mats/molds for those into this stuff.

Lunar mats are an extra.

Pay for the run, you can easily make 3~10m extra per run. If people want to be the lazy kind, let's click on bh dude, lets click on illusion stone, click bh boss, boss dead, get reward, might be best to skip lunar, there is too much clicking in lunar for most people.

I fail to see how people still want no fees.

Next we will be hearing, tt 3-x is too hard, my lvl 80 sin can not solo, make those bosses easier.

I never got the chance to do tt BH, but i am sure if the tt bh was after TT bosses got changed, people will still complain.

I completely agree with what everyone have already mentioned....but really the difficult part about lunar isn't forming a team or getting the 500k opening fee back...it's to form a GOOD team that will ensure a smooth run and also, the TIME factor

The mobs in lunar hits really hard and if the puller isn't prepared, he gets sealed and than killed, so the team has to clear to him without a tank/DD. Some teams can't even do more than 1 group and if the team doesn't have enough DD, you are just stuck in that group of mobs for a long time because mobs will keep on spawning. b:cry

Other times, the puller pulls wayyyyy too much and many teams doesn't have enough survivability/DD for them which results in wipes or an arcane tanking all the mobs while I try my best to keep him healed and other people back on their feet....which is ridiculous. b:surrender

The teams that I have mentioned above....are the ones that are even less likely to succeed on killing the bosses. Those kind of runs can take up to 2 hours....most of the time ending up with guildies coming to my aid... Personally, if I can't form a team that has at least 3 members who are my friends or who I have ran with before, it's just not worth it for me to do lunar when it can be both time consuming, a money eater(tons of charm ticks ), and make me feel like ripping my hair out b:shutup

I used to pay the entire fee.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I miss GBA boss in 3-3 as BH boss b:surrender

I do too b:cry

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

also im always disappointed of squads that leavr rigth after bh boss

Don't stop them b:shocked. I love it when that happens.

I pay 500k, and i get 3m~10m in return, i am not complaining b:victory.

aquawitchzz - that is a very poor dd squad you have been going with. If people are r8, there are casters around, debubffs and amps are timed, things will die quick even with low refines on weapons, 3~7. My wizzy friends hits for 300k~500k with her r8 weapon when mobs are debuffed, her weapon is r8 +3. It is a matter of timing for lower dd squad. Most often take a bm along with bp, bms are good substitute pullers and agro holders, they can stun often.

Skulla - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It would be great to sell the EoD for 3M. But getting into the instance and running it is the trick. Forming squads takes forever, it's worse forming BH Lunar than any other squad. Why? What could be the reason? Oh wait, I know... the FEE!

"Cleric +3 random for full lunar, my fee my drops, pm class"

gets me more then enough pms to make multiple runs. Duo comp the whole run, end up with 6 badges, 1 ess of def, bunch of lunar mats, maybe even a gold mat... more then enough to cover whatever fee I fronted.

OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »

oh and lunar actually used to be free.

Yea... and lunar used to also take 5+ hours... only runable by the absolute top tier.

OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »

haha i like how people when they run lunar and all pay separate fee to get in,and still people wanna split money on the 3 mill drop..LOL HELLLLLL no,you pay fee and you get drop,its yours,dont fall for that bs.
.

Nothing wrong with splitting coins on the essence drop, as long as everyone is on board. Makes a lot of sense actually, everyone gets a share of the big drop, lousy luck gets taken out of the equation. On average it ends up the same, it's just not prone to streaks.

Only problem with the fee is getting stuck with bungholes after splitting the fee.

seitori wrote: »

it is too bad that they didn't just make a variant of the {Lunar runs} that just used something like {Ulti-Subs} just like solo TT-runners can... And then just nerf the (drop rates) of the good stuff during those runs, so BHr's could finally afford doing the BH's in there (rather then blowing a minimal of a 500K (on average) split, for the blasted runs in there.....b:surrender

There is a solo mode lunar run b:bye. Before you begin to reply to my statement about solo run, read what you said, think about it, read my reply, if you see the mistake, awesome, if you don't see it, post it here.

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

There is a solo mode lunar run b:bye. Before you begin to reply to my statement about solo run, read what you said, think about it, read my reply, if you see the mistake, awesome, if you don't see it, post it here.

LoL I know, I used to do lots of solo runs in there with my veno before I retired her...

I was just trying too say it would be nice if they'd let you sub {Ult. subs / for coin} instead, and that the amount of Subs you use instead of coin would (adjust/nerf) the drops accordingly too the amount of subs you would use....b:victory


or in other words, if your squad chose to use (full coin) you get (full drops)

But if your squad chose too use enough subs to drop the rate to say (250k per) instead of the normal 500k (you'd atleast be able to get half the drops that you'd normally get on a full coin run)

that would be a possible effective way to drop the bh costs if they allowed an option like that, at the NPCs in LG's entrance valley, if you could just select a specific {BH run option ~ from them} and then just choose how much actual coin you all wanted too use for the run...

b:chuckle

Guess I musta lost the meaning on ya on what I was trying to say initially....b:dirty

Cinderball - Raging Tide wrote: »

Its a shame that so few like to run lunar because of the fee.

I don't think it's because of the fee really.