Is it cheating to use Badge and Fortify in PK?

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Twilight Temple (West)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUzyCxrwbs

ChillaKilla said it is. I'm not familiar with PK so I didn't believe him but he made a pretty convincing argument so now I'm confused.
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Making "non-trash-talkers" show their true color. RAGE ON! b:laugh
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Good sarcasm is good.

    You win 1 internet point.
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  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Good sarcasm is good.

    You win 1 internet point.

    Sarcasm? You just don't know Chilla if you think he was sarcastic.
    youtube.com/user/maltaeye

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  • Ninnuam - Sanctuary
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Lol'd. Ty for this.

    P.S. He obviously lost because kiting isn't allowed in 1v1. Everyone knows that b:laugh
    b:dirty
  • Kerona - Sanctuary
    Kerona - Sanctuary Posts: 1,771 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    If Chilla is now in Regi does this mean I can trash talk him (finally)?
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Stop that kiting and using a genie and fighting back and stuff! All that is cheating! D:
  • Elvenne - Raging Tide
    Elvenne - Raging Tide Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Cheater Cheater pumpkin Eater
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Sarcasm? You just don't know Chilla if you think he was sarcastic.

    Wait . . . that was serious?

    Damn


    Some people are just plain stupid.
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  • ILacy - Sanctuary
    ILacy - Sanctuary Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Wait . . . that was serious?

    I'm afraid so. b:surrender
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  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Wait . . . that was serious?

    Damn


    Some people are just plain stupid.


    Or you changing your mind when you saw you got owned?b:bye
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3r95wt/

    Or you changing your mind when you saw you got owned?b:bye

    Uhhh . . .

    what?
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  • MiniST - Sanctuary
    MiniST - Sanctuary Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Uhhh . . .

    what?

    i think he thinks you are Chilla b:chuckle
  • Kerona - Sanctuary
    Kerona - Sanctuary Posts: 1,771 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Or you changing your mind when you saw you got owned?b:bye

    Eye... He wasn't even talking about Chilla's sarcasm originally. He was talking about Roid's....

    And no "owning" was done. Bad kitty.
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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    This is why everyone makes fun of PvE servers.
    Aside from the idiocy of "cheating" with a genie skill, none of you even commented on the fact that both of them friggen suck at PvP xDDDDD    b:laugh
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  • uranig
    uranig Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    This is why everyone makes fun of PvE servers.
    Aside from the idiocy of "cheating" with a genie skill, none of you even commented on the fact that both of them friggen suck at PvP xDDDDD    b:laugh

    And this is why many Sanc pkers laugh at LC Pkers b:shutup

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHdXh7rB9Y&list=UU2RPIJiEkrVKqqbpSv-IVvQ&index=2&feature=plcp
  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    This is why everyone makes fun of PvE servers.
    Aside from the idiocy of "cheating" with a genie skill, none of you even commented on the fact that both of them friggen suck at PvP xDDDDD    b:laugh

    So, why dont you post your own video since you're so hardcore and can speak in some other servers forum. Bet you suck yourself lol
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  • RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    This is why everyone makes fun of PvE servers.
    Aside from the idiocy of "cheating" with a genie skill, none of you even commented on the fact that both of them friggen suck at PvP xDDDDD    b:laugh

    It's funny because a lot of Sanc. PKers (mostly from the group I PK with) actually PK on LC and they're not your average PKers since they're PKing on big names of LC, and to be honest with you, I haven't seen anything special that makes me feel like they're superior than some of our very own PKers on this server.

    Some of LC PKers PK on Sanc. too if you don't know.

    Anyway, _Em best veno, WWGD best sin!
    WWGD taught kirby and kyougu everything they know about sins. They make sensei very proud.
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    Making "non-trash-talkers" show their true color. RAGE ON! b:laugh
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    uranig wrote: »
    And this is why many Sanc pkers laugh at LC Pkers b:shutup

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHdXh7rB9Y&list=UU2RPIJiEkrVKqqbpSv-IVvQ&index=2&feature=plcp

    ^ Be more clear what is funny about that. It was boring to watch but i didn't see anything particularly hilarious. I promise to give a non-troll response if you clarify.
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So, why dont you post your own video since you're so hardcore and can speak in some other servers forum. Bet you suck yourself lol

    Sure I'll post some **** for you to criticize.

    This is my only recorded 1 vs 1 from over a year or so ago.
    At this time I am in +5 NV w/ +8 Claws. My opponent is Calvin, full +12 BM. He is currently leader of what is probably considered strongest faction on server. He eventually became first full Rank 9 BM on our server. I lose in this fight (pretty much because my gear sucks in comparison) but go ahead and comment on my skill and anything I do you think is stupid :D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XcFN1mV-oU


    And This: Is a recent TW video, short, and much more fun to watch.
    My gear in this is +8 3rd cast fists, and +6 NV. I take out several rank9's so I was satisfied.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu3mCWooYwM

    Cheers. I look forward to comments.
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's funny because a lot of Sanc. PKers (mostly from the group I PK with) actually PK on LC and they're not your average PKers since they're PKing on big names of LC, and to be honest with you, I haven't seen anything special that makes me feel like they're superior than some of our very own PKers on this server.

    Some of LC PKers PK on Sanc. too if you don't know.

    Anyway, _Em best veno, WWGD best sin!
    WWGD taught kirby and kyougu everything they know about sins. They make sensei very proud.

    After reviewing the video I retract my insults on the venomancer, I mainly just felt there was some unnecessary running in circles and that the BM could have been killed faster. I remain steadfast that the BM is an idiot though.

    He fails to rebuff himself timely, stuns when the veno is obviously immune, wastes chi leaping horizontally from the opponent or putting his enemy farther out of range without avoiding their attacks, and is occult ice the ONLY skill on his genie?
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  • Rfskkirby - Sanctuary
    Rfskkirby - Sanctuary Posts: 357 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    what is this trash video your linking, its over a year old and it was the time when cancel cast was able to be used and you did not even use it one time, and you expect us to believe your skilled? your complete trash, you dont even cancel cast, your genie set up is ****, Calvin himself is garbage. Lastly, if R9 People die to crappy fist BM, they obviously have no skill, and that satisfies you? lolololol
  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Sure let me criticize, obviously you seem to criticize pretty much yourself like you know how to play and act in different PvP situations. Lets take your genie as an example of your recent uploaded TW video.

    If that's a TW genie whether you're pulling a cata or not it's garbage. How your faction can even use a BM like you who's a 4-shot by the towers only to catapull is even more idiotic (laughable). You were pulling a cata and in that video and you didn't have marrow up at least half of the time.

    I mean, what is there to criticize if it's not even decently played? You should gather some knowledge about this game before you start babbling of things no one can agree with you on.
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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Sure let me criticize, obviously you seem to criticize pretty much yourself like you know how to play and act in different PvP situations. Lets take your genie as an example of your recent uploaded TW video.

    If that's a TW genie whether you're pulling a cata or not it's garbage. How your faction can even use a BM like you who's a 4-shot by the towers only to catapull is even more idiotic (laughable). You were pulling a cata and in that video and you didn't have marrow up at least half of the time.

    I mean, what is there to criticize if it's not even decently played? You should gather some knowledge about this game before you start babbling of things no one can agree with you on.

    I didn't want to pull catapult as was expressed in the video intro and description.

    marrow was used when it was appropriate to. Being constantly magic marrowed when no casters are around is just asking to be killed by a sin. Many of my charges I was immuned and didn't bother.

    What do you dislike about my genie?
    Rfskkirby - Sanctuary wrote: »
    what is this trash video your linking, its over a year old and it was the time when cancel cast was able to be used and you did not even use it one time, and you expect us to believe your skilled? your complete trash, you dont even cancel cast, your genie set up is ****, Calvin himself is garbage. Lastly, if R9 People die to crappy fist BM, they obviously have no skill, and that satisfies you? lolololol

    I probably could have used fire buff or cancel cast cyclone. I didn't. I'm not demon and the dmg diff isn't quite as noticeable to me nor could I have used the crit buff. The 1v1 shows an unbreaking stunlock with overlapping stuns/seal+freeze. Roar, Occult Ice, Drake bash, Smack + Bolt, Roar, Occult Ice, Drakes Bash. Because they overlap, the only way out of it is if my skill fails or you use a genie skill (like badge lol). It also shows more appropriate use of leaps than the BM in OP. I back off when I can't antistun and my lock has ended.

    Why do you hate my genie?
    My current one is:

    86/100 LP
    100 Str
    47 Vit
    5 Dex
    45 Mag

    Occult Ice,
    Absolute Domain,
    Tangling Mire,
    Holy Path,
    Tree of Protection,
    True Emptiness,
    Cloud Eruption
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  • uranig
    uranig Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    I didn't want to pull catapult as was expressed in the video intro and description.

    marrow was used when it was appropriate to. Being constantly magic marrowed when no casters are around is just asking to be killed by a sin. Many of my charges I was immuned and didn't bother.

    What do you dislike about my genie?

    And then a bm was scared of a sin b:chuckle
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    uranig wrote: »
    And then a bm was scared of a sin b:chuckle

    Full +12 JoSD r9 sins. yea, i scurred.
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  • Kerona - Sanctuary
    Kerona - Sanctuary Posts: 1,771 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    So scurry when malta, roid, and kerby agree with each other.
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  • Nuke_Cleric - Sanctuary
    Nuke_Cleric - Sanctuary Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So scurry when malta, roid, and kerby agree with each other.

    Preview of a united server. b:victory
  • Kerona - Sanctuary
    Kerona - Sanctuary Posts: 1,771 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Nuke_Cleric - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Preview of a united server. b:victory

    United against LC kids. b:shy
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  • Ruvil - Sanctuary
    Ruvil - Sanctuary Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    well it is 2012...

    I think we've missed the point of the thread... Yes, it is cheating to use fortify in PK, it is even cheating to use it in PvE.
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »
    United against LC kids. b:shy
    l


    I guess we'll see after server vs server implementation
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  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    What I dislike about your genie? First, your sixth skill True Emptiness is a skill used for only catapullers and I heavily doubt that your faction is using you to pull a catapult every week. Second, the funniest thing is that you're missing probably one of the most important genie skills for a BM both in TW and PK, Whirlwind.

    How can you think that sins are the worst problem in TW for a BM? The way you're thinking you'll never reach to the crystal. What's the point of having a BM catapuller who can't even survive vs a sin in TW. Are you planning to be without marrow infront of the crystal too? If your faction has such bad responsiveness that they can't even tab and kill a sin quick enough (except full r9 sin and not aps), consider get expel on your genie, though which would be even more embarrassing.
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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What I dislike about your genie? First, your sixth skill True Emptiness is a skill used for only catapullers and I heavily doubt that your faction is using you to pull a catapult every week. Second, the funniest thing is that you're missing probably one of the most important genie skills for a BM both in TW and PK, Whirlwind.

    How can you think that sins are the worst problem in TW for a BM?     The way you're thinking you'll never reach to the crystal. What's the point of having a BM catapuller who can't even survive vs a sin in TW. Are you planning to be without marrow infront of the crystal too? If your faction has such bad responsiveness that they can't even tab and kill a sin quick enough (except full r9 sin and not aps), consider get expel on your genie, though which would be even more embarrassing.

    Lol wut...? True Emptiness is a spammable magic shield and a staple for any BM/Barb.

    Whirlwind is popular but I am not a fan. I have a High str and magic genie allowing me to use Occult Ice quite often and with high success rate.

    Strawman Fallacy. I never said that.

    I am not a Catapult BM I was a fill in (and not even the best suited gear wise, just trusted to follow strategy).

    I have expel on an old genie and would still have it if I had room. And you obviously didn't watch the video, when sins popped out on me I was the only person around. Furthermore when sins killed me it was always multiple if I am not mistaken.

    At enemy crystal I did make use of marrow, but to be honest marrow or otherwise 10k hp BM is not going to last long with a catapult. I made use of iron guards, domain, buddhas guard, etc.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    i thought its cheating to be anywhere near safezone in PK :0
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