Educate me about the wiz life pls :D

_Rysan_ - Lost City
_Rysan_ - Lost City Posts: 21 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Wizard
Well i just choose wiz to be my new beloved main, i like it an all but its just that i dont know to much about what becomes of you guys at higher lvls the last i heard was that you hit pretty hard and oneshot some classes depending on lvl and gear and that you guys have it hard and even with caster NV here now seem you still cant even go until you get a "decent" wep thats refined to 10 soooooooo my question is what do you guys do before you get the badass refines? Im gonna try to merchant but i SUCK at it soooo is there anything more pve orientated that i can do for money on the side or will i only worth something in squads until i get something like a +5 lunar wep so i can atleast be able to AOE grind alone until i get IF i get a +10 wep that is acceptable along with 5khp (which is tempting me to put some vit in XD)?

Although im in a pvp server and i LOVE pvp im thinking about going for this since its free and seems awsome but i want you guys to let me know if its worth it or should i cough up the dough and buy some TT or something (i have no problem with going with the pve gear when i go pvp il just uses npc or something else for fun)

Just confused as to how you guys survive XD
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  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    After eating one apple, two pears, three plums, four strawberries, and five oranges, we become a chysalis and eventually emerge as a beaauuutiful butterfly.
    full r999 91% chan wizzy b:kiss

    Current build: pwcalc.com/bf1f46790766e26d
    LuLz: pwcalc.com/20f3fa96ab3c4dc0
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    some become potatoes
    i like potato
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Again others eat potatos
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Nostinor - Harshlands
    Nostinor - Harshlands Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Carrot. Always gotta have the almighty carrot.
  • Leviath_Imp - Lost City
    Leviath_Imp - Lost City Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    By the time the tideborn expansion came out, I was already fully on carrots, how much do potatoes go for nowadays?
  • _Rysan_ - Lost City
    _Rysan_ - Lost City Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    hmm true true well i guess il just work to be a potato then...seems pretty OP from what i heard.
    Thanks for the all help you guys are awesomeb:victory
  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    on the 6th day the very hungry caterpillar ate 6 potatoes ';..;'
    full r999 91% chan wizzy b:kiss

    Current build: pwcalc.com/bf1f46790766e26d
    LuLz: pwcalc.com/20f3fa96ab3c4dc0
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    so on a serious note
    i almost read all of your post now

    potatoes are the way of life we choose.


    you asked how to survive.

    well, i dont know
    we dont have pvp here
    not even a little bit... just a bunch of sins who pop out on immune to kill some squishie and the stealth again for 2 hours till the next white name appears

    but i can tell you how i survive in tw

    i just use all my squad as shield, even the cleric. they are nice targets
    i place myself in a position that makes others get targeted by tab

    i enter the enemy base behind other people and ig to shoot aoe in direction spawn/crystal
    first wave entering usually dies. but their sacrifice is needed and honorable.
    a potato wizard is far from honorable
    when you take high damage you shrink away

    when you can see your squad is going to suicide on a much stronger enemy squad, hold your finger on holy path
    you need 1-2 of them alive to secure your retreat ... when you arrive safely in the shadow of a friendly tower you can ask them "hey where are you? oh you are dead"


    whenever i see some friend ranting on random enemy wizards "lol he/she is alays running away. such a coward"
    im thinking.. nuuh thats exactly how to play wizard

    devasting assault. move out of damage range shortly before dying. rebuild def/chi/charm. come back



    te trick, regardless of gear is to get away shortly before dying
    so you can use your wiz to the maximum and keep a few dds busy for maximum time


    pure awesomeness is when you manage to bail with less than 100 hp
    recover and return to killing xd

    lunality on dw did this on a regular basis xd so hax



    potato!


    oh and how to survive in pve:
    db+expel using a weapon strong enough tp kill mobs in time for expel works fine

    at higher refines you can solo PV with that


    next way to survive:
    marry a cleric / have many cleric friends / offer clerics candy

    yesterday i did duo fc with a cleric for the luls
    takes about as long as a full 90-98 squad with a few aps ppl

    making the cleric pull and using bt to 1shot mobs is much better than pull+db+expel




    ok lunch break over ;0
    i like potato
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I like how playfull Hex makes it sound, but he's actually right b:chuckle

    A dead wizard can't do damage. Make sure you know when to run away, so that you may run back to kill someone later
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Dragoneast - Sanctuary
    Dragoneast - Sanctuary Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well i just choose wiz to be my new beloved main, i like it an all but its just that i dont know to much about what becomes of you guys at higher lvls the last i heard was that you hit pretty hard and oneshot some classes depending on lvl and gear and that you guys have it hard and even with caster NV here now seem you still cant even go until you get a "decent" wep thats refined to 10 soooooooo my question is what do you guys do before you get the badass refines? Im gonna try to merchant but i SUCK at it soooo is there anything more pve orientated that i can do for money on the side or will i only worth something in squads until i get something like a +5 lunar wep so i can atleast be able to AOE grind alone until i get IF i get a +10 wep that is acceptable along with 5khp (which is tempting me to put some vit in XD)?

    Although im in a pvp server and i LOVE pvp im thinking about going for this since its free and seems awsome but i want you guys to let me know if its worth it or should i cough up the dough and buy some TT or something (i have no problem with going with the pve gear when i go pvp il just uses npc or something else for fun)

    Just confused as to how you guys survive XD

    i see on Sanctuary enough people with a +3 tt99 or sometimes even tt90 wep do caster vana
    I do not need much,
    I do not have much,
    I do not miss much,
    I have love and friendship,
    To compensate for that!
    Dragoneast-rb1-soon to be 100 again- sanctuary
    Back in pwi, always returning to my first real mmo
    Started in genie patch :)
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    i see on Sanctuary enough people with a +3 tt99 or sometimes even tt90 wep do caster vana

    yep. seen that a lot
    especially on clerics and venos tho
    tt99 healing power is so low :(
    bb doesnt heal enough to make up with the damage mobs -for example in warsong- deal, while on r8 cleric its ok


    on a wizard... well, you are not responsible for healing... you just deal less than 1/10 of the other dds... well.. better than nothing
    i like potato
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    yep. seen that a lot
    especially on clerics and venos tho
    tt99 healing power is so low :(
    bb doesnt heal enough to make up with the damage mobs -for example in warsong- deal, while on r8 cleric its ok


    on a wizard... well, you are not responsible for healing... you just deal less than 1/10 of the other dds... well.. better than nothing

    Alteast you have an undine slave with wizzys like that.
    Though I once saw a wizzy with that kinda weapon and when I asked him to undine, and he didn't have it b:shutup
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Alteast you have an undine slave with wizzys like that.
    Though I once saw a wizzy with that kinda weapon and when I asked him to undine, and he didn't have it b:shutup

    Wtf D: undine is like... Our core move. I undine everything D:
    Ling__Tong 101 bm ~ PheosNyx 103 wiz ~ Arande 100 HArcher ~ xXxKuro 100 barb ~ AnselTyme 101 cleric ~ lukeFONfabre 96 seeker ~ Tori_Anzu 90 mystic ~ KateiiHimura 95 veno ~ Artemaeus 58 psy. Playing since April 2009.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Wtf D: undine is like... Our core move. I undine everything D:

    Actually if there is only 1 wizzy (and no psy) in a caster squad, it's smarter to not undine. You lose 1 attack in the time you undine, and unles there is more than 1 person, that 1 attack is more damage than the increase from the other attacks you get from undine.

    But yes, everyone should still have it
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Idk, I'd still have to disagree. If you have a mob undine'd it makes all the other debuffs that much more awesome. My damage output is much higher on an undined mob that is hfd/shattered/ele seal/amp etc than without undine. Granted, I haven't done the math, and I always run with multiple wiz/psys... I usually cast undine when ss/d pyro/glacial snare/wotp are on cd anyway (-75% channel in caster). o.o
    Ling__Tong 101 bm ~ PheosNyx 103 wiz ~ Arande 100 HArcher ~ xXxKuro 100 barb ~ AnselTyme 101 cleric ~ lukeFONfabre 96 seeker ~ Tori_Anzu 90 mystic ~ KateiiHimura 95 veno ~ Artemaeus 58 psy. Playing since April 2009.
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    but undine is in my macro and i dont want to change it..
    i just need to adjust when i spark, cause then i channel to fast and it undines before undine is off


    i think especially on bosses (high def) its better to keep undine up, even when alone
    unless you can prove what you say :P
    i like potato
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    but undine is in my macro and i dont want to change it..
    i just need to adjust when i spark, cause then i channel to fast and it undines before undine is off


    i think especially on bosses (high def) its better to keep undine up, even when alone
    unless you can prove what you say :P

    I'll do some math next time I'm in caster
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • _Rysan_ - Lost City
    _Rysan_ - Lost City Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    O_O Didn't think anyone was taking this thread seriously after the first responses XD.
    There's allot of good info here all i can say is TY to everyone who contributed, i have no more questions now thnx guys.
  • Labells - Dreamweaver
    Labells - Dreamweaver Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Well i just choose wiz to be my new beloved main, i like it an all but its just that i dont know to much about what becomes of you guys at higher lvls the last i heard was that you hit pretty hard and oneshot some classes depending on lvl and gear and that you guys have it hard and even with caster NV here now seem you still cant even go until you get a "decent" wep thats refined to 10 soooooooo my question is what do you guys do before you get the badass refines? Im gonna try to merchant but i SUCK at it soooo is there anything more pve orientated that i can do for money on the side or will i only worth something in squads until i get something like a +5 lunar wep so i can atleast be able to AOE grind alone until i get IF i get a +10 wep that is acceptable along with 5khp (which is tempting me to put some vit in XD)?

    Although im in a pvp server and i LOVE pvp im thinking about going for this since its free and seems awsome but i want you guys to let me know if its worth it or should i cough up the dough and buy some TT or something (i have no problem with going with the pve gear when i go pvp il just uses npc or something else for fun)

    Just confused as to how you guys survive XD

    Firstly, unfortunately many of us had to roll a sin to supplement our income with TT Mats merching.

    Secondly, not sure what the Lunar mat market is like on Lost but as a wizzy Lunar will become your best friend - kidnap a stressed cleric and at 90+ you both can have hours of fun & killage. (The cleric will also thank you for taking them somewhere they can smack stuff around and not have to save peoples butts)

    Thirdly, you're not bad at merchanting you just haven't found a market that interests you yet (Merching gets way easier if you like farming what your selling)

    Fourthly, Wizzy's suck until lvl 85ish but then they get more & more awesome.

    End game coin you can do TM69's with a puller (BT is a beautiful thing) but you need good refines.

    All in all at the moment my favourite is beating post in Full Deltas - it's fun and ok day to day pocket money - while my shops do all the selling for gear upgrades)

    O don't forget as a wizzy - you'll need to get a friend base of other classes that know how to play with you - we are agro hoes and go down faster than a cheap h**ker (sometimes) it's your friends skill that helps keep you vertical b:pleased
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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