Will this skill EVER be fixed?

Cathulion - Dreamweaver
Cathulion - Dreamweaver Posts: 235 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Blademaster
Demon and Sage Cyclone Heel APS boost....it's supposed to be 20%/15% extra APS, but it's glitched to be lvl 10 still. Same with Sage but at least sage lasts 20 seconds. Hence why I switched to sage. Demon should have made me 5aps from 3.33 base. If you don't know what I'm talking about, go down to 3.33 aps base. Use demon cyclone heel and you'll see that your aps only increases to 4aps base. Technically it should be 5aps, or much greater then 4 as lvl 10 is 12%. Or am I wrong as how 20% aps boost on 3.33base works?
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  • augustfinknottle
    augustfinknottle Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    From 3.33 to 5aps you need a 25% boost. And in this game, interval add-ons are rounded down, there's no option of being 4.5aps.

    But this I say from hearsay, not sure about the math involved.

    Also, cyclone heel doesn't look like a good enough reason to change from demon to sage, since as a demon you won't even need it so bad (spark works better than that anyway). But each one plays as they like, I guess.
  • Cathulion - Dreamweaver
    Cathulion - Dreamweaver Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Made A PWCalc, put RB 20% aps boost on it and it still went 4aps, so I see what you mean by rounding. And I'm getting a pangu soon so demon wouldn't be useful for me anymore. With Sage cyclone heel I can be 5aps for 20 second+15% extra DD higher then demon bms. Plan on reforging r8 chestplate for 5aps base as well later on. Tho I'll be honest I do miss being a demon and 5aps. Demon HF to me wasn't worth it to me being the only reason for demon.
  • WangZi - Dreamweaver
    WangZi - Dreamweaver Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I personally prefer demon for the skills since other than sage bell and masteries, the other skills don't appeal to me since I do prefer demon marrows, HF, stuns, farstrike and drake ray, and demon bell is sexy on Incacerate or bosses where that extra pdef is needed (I just keep spamming it for whoever's tanking)

    But yeah, other than the skills though, I'm going for an insane build which involves 3 pieces of S3 R9 and stay 5 aps with a whopping >550 str, but of course that's gonna take months and months of farmingb:shocked
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    That 15% mastery is a MUCH smaller difference than the 15% damage you think. It's actually closer to a 2-3% DPH advantage... which loses out to the crit boost of demon as you get stronger weapons.

    Basically, your concerns and the topic itself are based off misconceptions.
  • Sjuggs - Lost City
    Sjuggs - Lost City Posts: 617 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    truekossy wrote: »
    That 15% mastery is a MUCH smaller difference than the 15% damage you think. It's actually closer to a 2-3% DPH advantage... which loses out to the crit boost of demon as you get stronger weapons.

    Basically, your concerns and the topic itself are based off misconceptions.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    truekossy wrote: »
    That 15% mastery is a MUCH smaller difference than the 15% damage you think. It's actually closer to a 2-3% DPH advantage... which loses out to the crit boost of demon as you get stronger weapons.

    Basically, your concerns and the topic itself are based off misconceptions.

    Its actually about 1.3-1.8% difference. Less the more strength you get. When you compare that demon gets 1% crit the total difference between sage and demon masteries is about .5% difference. 1.5% damage difference vs 1% crit, I'd favor the crit because its more useful in pvp.

    Okay, 3.33 aps is displayed but the game actually uses interval between attacks. So 3.33 attacks per second is actually .30 between each attack. An "increase in aps" is actually a decrease between attacks. So 20% faster attack speed is actually 20% less time between attacks. .3 seconds between attacks x (1-.2)= .24 seconds between attacks. Interval is calculated in -.05 increments though, so .24 rounds to .25 seconds between attack which is 4 attacks a second.

    I also like demon bell better than sage bell. 400 pdef all the time vs the thousands I get when I use bell to buff in emergency situations.
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  • X_Rays - Harshlands
    X_Rays - Harshlands Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Demon cyclone heel shines in PvP when you have 2.50 APS base because it will put it up to 3.33 APS while sage only boosts it to 2.86 APS. This allows demon to have greater defense in APS:

    http://pwcalc.com/63f5a01924211218
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