Venos Deserve BP!!

goldenears
goldenears Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Suggestion Box
i see no reason at all why venos cant have blood paint in fox form. they do physical damage just like any other sin, bm, barb. They say its Over powered but to be honest im rank 8 veno and all that skill does is heal me even with some aps gear equiped my atributes dont alow for anything above aps of 3 so not going to heal myself any faster than anyother nub sin. I am a Heavy armor veno i use fox form and i know just how far in what equipement i can put on.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    well, psychics do physical damage too (sov/soulburn/some sor). oh, and wizzies BT. the thing is, it's not about what is right according to the moral code of pan-gu, it's about class balance and a bit of lore (to keep people interested). oh, and ofc what makes $$
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It's not so much physical damage so much as it is that fox form forces it so that if you aren't using a debuff like amp, purge, or myraid, you're melee attacking.

    And BP is a buff that heals from melee attacks. Makes no real sense for it to be restricted to certain races when every class can auto-attack of they need to while only a few classes can use m.atk for anything but everyone can be buffed by spirit's gift.

    And even if it were a case of balance, since half of a veno's skill tree involves melee attacks at melee range based off phys attack and dealing melee damage, bloodpaint should benefit them as well logically.




    .... But our devs are weirdos so no matter how many times this is brought up it's not gonna change.
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    truekossy wrote: »
    It's not so much physical damage so much as it is that fox form forces it so that if you aren't using a debuff like amp, purge, or myraid, you're melee attacking.

    And BP is a buff that heals from melee attacks. Makes no real sense for it to be restricted to certain races when every class can auto-attack of they need to while only a few classes can use m.atk for anything but everyone can be buffed by spirit's gift.

    And even if it were a case of balance, since half of a veno's skill tree involves melee attacks at melee range based off phys attack and dealing melee damage, bloodpaint should benefit them as well logically.




    .... But our devs are weirdos so no matter how many times this is brought up it's not gonna change.


    This. They are even a melee class technically, since they have a melee mastery and half of their skills are devoted to a melee form. Yet they are only melee class to not be able to receive blood paint. A stronger case can be made for venos getting BP than archers even, IJS.
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    This. They are even a melee class technically, since they have a melee mastery and half of their skills are devoted to a melee form. Yet they are only melee class to not be able to receive blood paint. A stronger case can be made for venos getting BP than archers even, IJS.

    So true. They even have their spark bonuses altered so that demon/sage spark is a phys+mag attack boost instead of just m.atk+bonus or p.attack+bonus like all the other classes have.

    As much as I'd support archers getting BP, it's not something that makes me ask myself why archers don't get it whenever I'm on my archer. On my veno, however.... every time I go into fox form the question pops into my head.
  • kenpachikensai
    kenpachikensai Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I main an Archer and only played a Veno up to lvl 2x. But I would definitely like to see Veno's get BP first over Archers.
  • X_volcano_y - Harshlands
    X_volcano_y - Harshlands Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    well archers were made to use ranged wep only few skills need meele range-fists is an exception of what an archer is made for-.i dont understand why not get bp on all classes comeon if a cleric want to meele atk for bp let him do it.
  • Lucrecia - Momaganon
    Lucrecia - Momaganon Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I would like bp on an archer (with fists), but i dont think a veno needs it because a veno already has enough ways to gain hp (leech, ST, MB) and because of the lack of aps i dont think it would make a huge difference...

    But yeah, would be interestinng to see HA venos tanking with bp b:laugh
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  • kisgyengusz
    kisgyengusz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    As a heavy veno i support the idea of venos having bp even if its only in fox from and in human form it would disappear. With sage leech 600 HP and 6sec cd or sage metabolic boost that heals 60% of maximum HP but i have to be in human form and 300.0 seconds cd, while bp able chars can sit back and auto attack anything, its not fair b:surrender If someone says that venos have their pets to tank... currently every pet maybe except herc is one hit in 100+ dungeons. I have a derjans ancient hatchling but its like a second weapon in 100+ dungeons its 2-3 hit for even the mobs... cant really tank anything. Yet sins can solo almost anything clear out dungeons etc. So please PWI make bp avalaible for venos b:victoryb:thanks