wizzy sharding questions

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear
Baby_pho - Heavens Tear Posts: 636 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Wizard
ok guys I have a few questions regarding weapon dmg with saphire shards. this is my weap with exact stats it has 2 sockets. my question is that

1)should I shard icebourn the lvl12 shard or settle for saphire gem lvl 11 shard?

2)how much of a different of dmg if my weap is +10 if I put 2 shards of icebourn vs. 2 shards of saph? keep in mind i have about 65 lvl attack ish w/o blessings

3)please tell me ur opinion on the above questions reguarding mystic and wiz as those are the 2 classes i like to play atm.


thanks ahead.

I am asking this question because as you can see saphire gems are quite expensive nowadays 17m per. I was aiming to get icebourn when saph gems were 11m ea. it is quite a big different. just trying to see if it is worth it to go 2x iceborn vs. 2x saph gem.

edit: these questions regard pvp dmg. I dont really care for pve. thanks.
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  • kawaiijen
    kawaiijen Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Baby_pho - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ok guys I have a few questions regarding weapon dmg with saphire shards. this is my weap with exact stats it has 2 sockets. my question is that

    1)should I shard icebourn the lvl12 shard or settle for saphire gem lvl 11 shard?

    2)how much of a different of dmg if my weap is +10 if I put 2 shards of icebourn vs. 2 shards of saph? keep in mind i have about 65 lvl attack ish w/o blessings

    3)please tell me ur opinion on the above questions reguarding mystic and wiz as those are the 2 classes i like to play atm.


    thanks ahead.

    I am asking this question because as you can see saphire gems are quite expensive nowadays 17m per. I was aiming to get icebourn when saph gems were 11m ea. it is quite a big different. just trying to see if it is worth it to go 2x iceborn vs. 2x saph gem.

    edit: these questions regard pvp dmg. I dont really care for pve. thanks.

    Pho >.>

    Just put your gear in the gear in the calc do the average of the magic attack multiply it by 1.65 (since that's your attack levels) and then multiply it again by .25 (75% pvp reduction) that's going to be your average hit. Swap them out for the icebourns and see what the average becomes. Of course you could just do the maximum magic attack to see what the difference of your highest DPH will be. (not including undine spark etc)

    Side note. Wizards is more of a DD powerhouse. Mystic is more of a support role. You want a wizard. And use a jones blessing not a jolly blessing. Your attack levels will be higher too fyi.
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Don't shard where you eat b:chuckle
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  • Nurfed_You - Harshlands
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands Posts: 754 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    If you play mainly mystic it will be fine with saph gems. For a wizard you should try to max out your dph potential, meaning the more expensive icebournes
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    uh, those weap stats suck, reroll
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  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    2 sockets
    Max magic attack + 130
    Crit + 1%
    19 vit

    That's very good. To get stats as good or better than that she'd probably end up having to reroll a few dozen times.

    As to your question Phon00b. Do what Jen said to calculate the damage difference between the two.
    To be honest I would put icebournes on the bottom of the list of "things to do" in terms of sharding/gear. +50 m.atk difference between 2 saph gems/2 icebournes would be like..~500 damage difference in PVP/PK for about 180m for 2 icebournes on HT.
    If you're satisfied with your gear as it is, get the shards. If you think you could do with some refines/armor sharding/better tome/better rings or w/e then get that o-o
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    2 sockets
    Max magic attack + 130
    Crit + 1%
    19 vit

    That's very good. To get stats as good or better than that she'd probably end up having to reroll a few dozen times.

    As to your question Phon00b. Do what Jen said to calculate the damage difference between the two.
    To be honest I would put icebournes on the bottom of the list of "things to do" in terms of sharding/gear. +50 m.atk difference between 2 saph gems/2 icebournes would be like..~500 damage difference in PVP/PK for about 180m for 2 icebournes on HT.
    If you're satisfied with your gear as it is, get the shards. If you think you could do with some refines/armor sharding/better tome/better rings or w/e then get that o-o

    I agree with hex, those stats are meh. I'm not sure how you figure 50matk is going to lead to 500 pvp damage, but I'm very skeptical. I'd expect 50 magic attack to make a much smaller difference in pvp damage.
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  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Just figured when fully buffed you undine someone the difference would be around there. Was just to make my point though, as you said it's likely lower so it might not be worth it as a goal right now.

    And I still think the stats she got are pretty good, they're not great stats but they are still better than what most of her other rerolls have been. It doesn't cost a whole lot to reroll stats but an offense ess + 1 (or 2m?) + the time to get the badges to reroll each time does build up :c
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  • Baby_pho - Heavens Tear
    Baby_pho - Heavens Tear Posts: 636 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    my math sucks...

    I'm also not rerolling. people in ht know how many times I have rerolled. This is the "best" i can do in term of the weap stat and luck.

    according to jen's calculation

    so with +10 saph gem i have about ~23900-24000 ish more or less on the high end.

    w/o blessing my dmg would be ~9858-9900

    w/ jones blessing dmg would be ~11651-11700



    +10 ice bourn, I have ~ 24400 ish more or less on high end.

    w/o blessing dmg would be ~10065

    w/ blessing dmg would be ~11895


    its not that much of a difference =.=' so I think I will go with the saphire gems I mean a few hundred dmg difference with the cost of 160m difference I really dont have that kind of money.

    ps. jha if i save my moneys it will eventually go to fashions. and I already have the lunar rings. I dont feel like cloud stir is the best ring and I am definately probably not ever goin r9. I do have a few cit gems in bank that i've been buying while I am waiting for +10 sale might as well just shard my gear. =.=' cos tbh, I will spend it on fash if not alts.

    edit: thanks for your opinions guys.
  • Leni - Raging Tide
    Leni - Raging Tide Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    17M Sapp Gems on HT?! And I thought RT was F***ed xD

    Well, I've never liked wands as a DD weapon due to the lack of spike dmg, but you got +MaxDmg bonus to make up for it. Also, the +Vit fits into your mystic's support role and the +Dex means 1% extra crit even if you restat your base dex to 3, so I'd keep those stats; not the best, but still pretty good imo.

    As far as sharding goes, I think Icebournes are worth it in the long run if that's gonna be your absolute endgame weapon, but if you don't wanna wait too long untill you can afford two of them (if that's the case) or shard Sapp Gems that will go to waste if you ever decide you wanna go Icebournes, just go the cheapo way and shard Exclusive Sapps untill you save up for Icebournes :P
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    when saph gems cost that much on your server you might want to consider refining to +11

    the orb should be around or less than 150mil if i remember correctly

    somewhat like 1100 1star orbs and 1 10star, -to lazy for the exact numbers



    i dont think the saph gem price is static either
    it should be lower - like right now, in a time of pack sales
    especially with anni packs around.
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  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    That's actually the low price for them ._.
    HT doesn't have the brightest cash shoppers, some barb was buying saph gems at about 20-21m each to shard his R9 with icebournes. The price stuck at that for a while till anni packs and other packs went on sale and now they're 15-17m.
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    as far as my memory goes it was 5m-15m on dw
    this memory is old
    and yes the price varied by 10m+


    dot is 14-17 during strong pack sales and 17-20 off pack sale

    dod is 25-28 during strong pack sale
    30-34 off sale

    vit stones are either 30 or 40 mil. steady
    ... i dont remember

    garnet gems are very expansive as well
    used to be 2 or 3 times the price of saphire





    (my price knowledge of this market might be outdated)
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  • RebeI - Harshlands
    RebeI - Harshlands Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Damn HL costs seem to be a lot higher.

    Vit stones are like 45~
    DoD are around 45~
    Cit gems are 20-25
    DoT are like 15-20
    Sapphire are 10-15
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    yeh vit gems was 40 not 30 xd
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