Is this game worth playing?
babyburst
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Hello i might become a new player to this game but first would like to know if its even worth playing. Im coming from another MMORPG game called FLYFF some of you may know of it some may not. But im looking for something with that kind of gameplay. a open world game where i can interact with tons of other players join clans/guilds/family do plenty of quest, do dungeons as a team, sell alot of items... you know all that jazz. Does this game provide that kind of excitement? how active is this game still? is it hard for a new player to begin and get the hang of it? what is the funnest class? whats the easiest class for a beginner? does it have a pet system? anything i should know about i guess is what im asking. i would deeply appreciate the help if anybody can help. please and thank you.
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play it and find out for yourself,do your own research.But i will say this..if you cant make coin in this game then you may wanna go back to mario brothers.This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
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OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »play it and find out for yourself,do your own research.But i will say this..if you cant make coin in this game then you may wanna go back to mario brothers.
...In other words he doesn't know himself...
Yeah it is open world and there are guilds for Territorial Wars and other stuff.
There are tons of dungeons on which you need to squad up.
Lots of items to farm and merchant, activity is depending on the server I think.
Funnest class is up to the game-style you prefere.
There is a pet system. Venomancers can summon battle pets other classes are just able to get pets as mounts or baby pets which just follow you for the looks.0 -
No.
The game has turned in to Pay2win.
No bugs or in-game issues has been fixed for years.
Economy is screwed.
The PWE Staff only care about money, not about what players think.
They ban without reason.
They dont ban if you exploit glitches, which is bannable according to their own ToS.
I would recomend another newly released MMO thats Pay2play.
atleast there, things get done.
Just look at the poor forums, they cant even take 10min off to implement captcha.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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GOOD GOD!! Is that old game STILL going?... Jesus. *shudders* put it this way, I myself came from Flyff and when I got here I never looked back >< it took a while to adjust to the UI system and other things but I'm curious as to your reasons for leaving Flyff, mine at the time were I was sick of the ENDLESS grind -.- no real quests to do, but this was WAAAAAY back around v2 ~v4 of the game. I still remember when they brought out the pet system and the Caves of Ivillis. Anyway, I'm sure you'll enjoy this game, granted it has it's imperfections (Oh the irony...) but what game doesn't? Plenty of quests.... no seriously there is still stuff to do when you get to 20 levels away from the game's level cap (105) not to mention there are Daily quests that you can do with good rewards and/or EXP, not to mention they just released a new area and we're due a new expansion soon, if you dig around the forums a bit you'll find out what should be in that, unless I can find a link... either way hope you'll enjoy your time here. b:victory
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I really like how every week someone is making new topic with name "is this game worth playing".
Play the freaking game and find out for yourself.
But I guess for someone that is too hard to do. Play the game, oh pleaseee... b:laugh
We don't need players who make their own opinion based on someone others opinion.
That way, you don't have your own opinion, but rather your own opinion about someone others opinion. b:laughb:laugh0 -
_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »No.
The game has turned in to Pay2win.
No bugs or in-game issues has been fixed for years.
Economy is screwed.
The PWE Staff only care about money, not about what players think.
They ban without reason.
They dont ban if you exploit glitches, which is bannable according to their own ToS.
I would recomend another newly released MMO thats Pay2play.
atleast there, things get done.
Just look at the poor forums, they cant even take 10min off to implement captcha.
He should find out for himself.
It's only "pay2win" if you plan on RPKing. There's tons of TW's with people in average gear.
Ton's have bugs have been fixed look at rubberbanding and clerics magic shell buff for example.
Economy is the players fault not PWEs so blame your fellow players.
I toss ideas at Frankie that I read you guys post if I like them, and if he likes the idea he passes it along to the devs to see if they will do anything. So that's wrong.
They never ban without reason.
They explained why they couldn't ban the gooners.
And if you read a post Frankie made they won't implement captcha for reasons he stated.
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If you don't like it here why are you still here?
I ask myself the same question often. I see people, Nerox included, who bash the game on the forum, yet are around in-game. The game sucks yet they still play it; very confusing.
I've got nothing against people not wanting to play the game, but then you seem like a hypocrite when I see them in-game. The counter-argument is often that they are "waiting around for [insert other game here]" but then that game comes out and they are still on the forums or in-game. It vexes me, really.Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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He should find out for himself.
It's only "pay2win" if you plan on RPKing. There's tons of TW's with people in average gear.
Ton's have bugs have been fixed look at rubberbanding and clerics magic shell buff for example.
I agree with you saying that he should find out for himself but the rest of that quote is ****.
This game is clearly pay2win no matter what you do. PK, Nirvana, Caster Nirvana, TW etc etc
Look at the bugs that have been fixed? Rubberbanding? Are you sure? I still rubberband like crazy therefore it is not fixed. Cleric's magic shell buff is fixed yes but how long did it take? 3 years? Argument is invalid.Economy is the players fault not PWEs so blame your fellow players.
I'm sure the players ask for pack sales every week right? /sarcasm
What happened to PWE releasing boutique items like mounts, flyers and fashion? They put them in packs now, more people spend money on the packs to get the items which fuels PWE's greed then the players want more coin for their real life cash. That's not the players fault, that's PWE's fault. Just look at the economy before the release of the first Anni packs, it was perfect.If you don't like it here why are you still here?
I still enjoy playing the game despite how much PWE has messed it up but now the other game has been released (even though I wasn't waiting for it or even hyped about it) it is far superior to this in every way.
To the OP is the game worth it? Personally I would say no, if you would have found the game 4 years ago when I started I would have said yes but now I'd only recommend playing if you have had a real life lotto win or fancy spending 2+ years farming gear. Your money could be used on a much better F2P game or stick to FLYFF even though that game is dreadful.0 -
Yes the game itself is very fun some haters, but u get that anywhere. Pets have been mentioned, veno for fighter pets and alot of soloing if that is your play style, other than that...like rest said, it is waht u make it, there are territory wars, guilds, dungeons, if you start you may get hooked, so be ready to put alot of time in...truly do yourself a favor and learn how to spend as little as possible along the way but keep up with your skills and gears, make as muxh money as u kan also, the ekonomy in game is tough at times...however I am not a major kasher and I do get by...welkome to pwi...an have fun!!!b:victoryb:pleasedHello i might become a new player to this game but first would like to know if its even worth playing. Im coming from another MMORPG game called FLYFF some of you may know of it some may not. But im looking for something with that kind of gameplay. a open world game where i can interact with tons of other players join clans/guilds/family do plenty of quest, do dungeons as a team, sell alot of items... you know all that jazz. Does this game provide that kind of excitement? how active is this game still? is it hard for a new player to begin and get the hang of it? what is the funnest class? whats the easiest class for a beginner? does it have a pet system? anything i should know about i guess is what im asking. i would deeply appreciate the help if anybody can help. please and thank you.0 -
MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »I agree with you saying that he should find out for himself but the rest of that quote is ****.
This game is clearly pay2win no matter what you do. PK, Nirvana, Caster Nirvana, TW etc etc
Look at the bugs that have been fixed? Rubberbanding? Are you sure? I still rubberband like crazy therefore it is not fixed. Cleric's magic shell buff is fixed yes but how long did it take? 3 years? Argument is invalid.
I'm sure the players ask for pack sales every week right? /sarcasm
What happened to PWE releasing boutique items like mounts, flyers and fashion? They put them in packs now, more people spend money on the packs to get the items which fuels PWE's greed then the players want more coin for their real life cash. That's not the players fault, that's PWE's fault. Just look at the economy before the release of the first Anni packs, it was perfect.
I've been on this game since the start myself. My account was actually made in Nov. of 2008, so I've been here just two months short of when the game was released internationally. I've spent $20 on this game, in total, my entire life, and that was just this month to buy a friend a flying mount. However, I've done offers on this game and earned over $60 worth of zen/gold that I've spent on the boutique, and even though I only got a little bit out of that (a few flying mounts, full bank and inventory for both myself and a friend, etc.), it's still enough that I haven't complained. You don't /have/ to spend a dime to play. It's only if you really want the extra features. Paying isn't mandatory, it's optional, and always will be.
If you want a game you can pay monthly for with a full experience, go ahead, but they have in-game economies that are just as corrupted. Look at how far Blizzard has fallen. Even BioWare couldn't deliver a flawless MMO. Your best bet, really, is just to play what you prefer. If the guy tries it, likes it, then he can stick around. If he doesn't like it, then he answered his own question and can move on to another game.MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »I still enjoy playing the game despite how much PWE has messed it up but now the other game has been released (even though I wasn't waiting for it or even hyped about it) it is far superior to this in every way.
To the OP is the game worth it? Personally I would say no, if you would have found the game 4 years ago when I started I would have said yes but now I'd only recommend playing if you have had a real life lotto win or fancy spending 2+ years farming gear. Your money could be used on a much better F2P game or stick to FLYFF even though that game is dreadful.
To answer this, however, I'd disagree entirely. When I first started playing the game, I actually couldn't stand it. I didn't like the lack of customizable hotkeys, that probably frustrated me the most. But I got bored of my Wizard very quickly because it was so squishy, the community felt like it was full of elitists that wouldn't help anyone else out at all, and I just got really frustrated with it very quickly. Now, there's so much more to the game, a lot more places, more classes that are a lot of fun, and I can set up more hotkeys. I do wish there was more options to my hotkeys (more spellbar/hotbar options for hotkeys, I'm an oldbie when it comes to MMO's, I don't /ever/ click my spells) but it's still fantastic.
The only valid point to me, that wasn't opinionated, would've been the economy. I'll admit the economy went down, I miss seeing gold for 100k, or even 300k a pop. Now it's around 1.5 mil which makes it nearly impossible for anyone who's not a ridiculously high level to earn, as you either pretty much do constant TT runs or farm a ridiculous amount of mats to merchant all day for forever just to get a single flying mount or anything. But that's not really on the staff, that's on the userbase. If people started selling for less, it would cost everyone else less to buy gold -- but people want more, so people have to spend more. Simple economics.0 -
MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »I agree with you saying that he should find out for himself but the rest of that quote is ****.
This game is clearly pay2win no matter what you do. PK, Nirvana, Caster Nirvana, TW etc etc
Look at the bugs that have been fixed? Rubberbanding? Are you sure? I still rubberband like crazy therefore it is not fixed. Cleric's magic shell buff is fixed yes but how long did it take? 3 years? Argument is invalid.
I'm sure the players ask for pack sales every week right? /sarcasm
What happened to PWE releasing boutique items like mounts, flyers and fashion? They put them in packs now, more people spend money on the packs to get the items which fuels PWE's greed then the players want more coin for their real life cash. That's not the players fault, that's PWE's fault. Just look at the economy before the release of the first Anni packs, it was perfect.
I still enjoy playing the game despite how much PWE has messed it up but now the other game has been released (even though I wasn't waiting for it or even hyped about it) it is far superior to this in every way.
To the OP is the game worth it? Personally I would say no, if you would have found the game 4 years ago when I started I would have said yes but now I'd only recommend playing if you have had a real life lotto win or fancy spending 2+ years farming gear. Your money could be used on a much better F2P game or stick to FLYFF even though that game is dreadful.
This game is far from Pay2Win unless you RPK. Tell me one thing you have to do in this game that requires you to spend a dime and is unfarmable besides for PK. Don't you dare say TW. Sure there are a few Top tier factions that dominate the map but there are still smaller tier TW's which are VERY fun to take part of going on as well.
Yes I'm sure rubberbanding has been fixed as well as tons of other bugs. That's on your end for having a computer that can barely run this game. That's client issue not server issue. And you can't blame PWE for something that solely depends on CHINA's Devs to do something for us.
Pack sales have very little to do with the greed/economy in this game. If it wasn't pack items it would be nirvana mats, perfect chi stones, and other high demand items that would be overpriced. You can thank Supply/Demand for it. In fact, last I checked the anni pack sale LOWERED all of the pack item prices dramatically which is great for the "non csers"
You obviously didn't see the Jolly Jones Horror that unstabilized the market if you think it was perfect pre-packs. And that's not greed, that's called running a business. It's basic human nature in general to want things we can't have. And some are willing to pay for those things. They use that trait about us by putting them in packs. That's called smarts not greed.
You're comparing a 7 year old game to a brand spanking new one? You see how flawed that logic is? Not to mention their Devs are LOCAL where as we are dependant on China's.There' stuff that goes on between the two businesses neither of us knows about. So please stop acting like you do.
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This game is far from Pay2Win unless you RPK. Tell me one thing you have to do in this game that requires you to spend a dime and is unfarmable besides for PK. Don't you dare say TW. Sure there are a few Top tier factions that dominate the map but there are still smaller tier TW's which are VERY fun to take part of going on as well.
It's not that you have to pay to win, it's that you can pay to win. But that's nothing exclusive to PWI, I've seen it in absolutely every f2p MMO I've played.
It's just that PWI makes life a lot harder for those that want to farm their equipment than other f2p MMO's do.Yes I'm sure rubberbanding has been fixed as well as tons of other bugs. That's on your end for having a computer that can barely run this game. That's client issue not server issue. And you can't blame PWE for something that solely depends on CHINA's Devs to do something for us.
Rubberbanding a client issue? Then how come pretty much everyone (regardless of specs) had it, usually at the same location? *cough* Raging Tide *cough*
Whether it's China or PWE's fault, it's still the game that suffers.Pack sales have very little to do with the greed/economy in this game. If it wasn't pack items it would be nirvana mats, perfect chi stones, and other high demand items that would be overpriced. You can thank Supply/Demand for it. In fact, last I checked the anni pack sale LOWERED all of the pack item prices dramatically which is great for the "non csers"
Packs have little to do with the economy? Are you flying flip-flopping serious?
Packs DOMINATE the economy. Most medium-endgame equipment? Comes from packs. Almost 90% of all utility items in the game (crabs, herbs, makeovers, genie restats, cube supplies, etc.)? Come from tokens, which come from packs.
The economy would be so vastly different if such things had to be farmed instead of just bought it's not even funny thinking about it.You obviously didn't see the Jolly Jones Horror that unstabilized the market if you think it was perfect pre-packs. And that's not greed, that's called running a business. It's basic human nature in general to want things we can't have. And some are willing to pay for those things. They use that trait about us by putting them in packs. That's called smarts not greed.
I'd say it's both smarts and greed. Whatever it is, I think the game didn't really benefit from it.You're comparing a 7 year old game to a brand spanking new one? You see how flawed that logic is? Not to mention their Devs are LOCAL where as we are dependant on China's.There' stuff that goes on between the two businesses neither of us knows about. So please stop acting like you do.
Why not? They're both games. People don't think to themselves ''hmm, this game sucks balls, but it's 7 years old so I'll play it instead of this new game, which I like a lot more''.
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Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »Rubberbanding a client issue? Then how come pretty much everyone (regardless of specs) had it, usually at the same location? *cough* Raging Tide *cough*
Whether it's China or PWE's fault, it's still the game that suffers.
Where do you rubber band in Raging Tide? Because I don't recall ever rubber banding there, going back to the Rising Tide expansion.
One place that did have dreadful rubberbanding (temple of Shroud) has been fixed in recent patches, and the rubberbanding after landing on NPC heads was fixed long ago.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »It's not that you have to pay to win, it's that you can pay to win. But that's nothing exclusive to PWI, I've seen it in absolutely every f2p MMO I've played.
It's just that PWI makes life a lot harder for those that want to farm their equipment than other f2p MMO's do.
So you would rather they hand you your endgame gear from instances like other f2ps?
Rubberbanding a client issue? Then how come pretty much everyone (regardless of specs) had it, usually at the same location? *cough* Raging Tide *cough*
Whether it's China or PWE's fault, it's still the game that suffers.
I haven't seen a rubberband anywhere in months.
Packs have little to do with the economy? Are you flying flip-flopping serious?
Packs DOMINATE the economy. Most medium-endgame equipment? Comes from packs. Almost 90% of all utility items in the game (crabs, herbs, makeovers, genie restats, cube supplies, etc.)? Come from tokens, which come from packs.
The economy would be so vastly different if such things had to be farmed instead of just bought it's not even funny thinking about it.
I am dead serious. The pack sales aren't whats killing the economy. Most of that gear in packs is FARMABLE. And would be MILLIONS more expensive. Packs actually keep items CHEAPER for most players in most cases.
I'd say it's both smarts and greed. Whatever it is, I think the game didn't really benefit from it.
It didn't hurt the game either as these are purely asthetic and have no real gameplay changing aspects to them.
Why not? They're both games. People don't think to themselves ''hmm, this game sucks balls, but it's 7 years old so I'll play it instead of this new game, which I like a lot more''.
Comparing a game thats running on a fossil for a gameengine which is limited in what it can do to todays games is hardly fair. That's like comparing a Legend of Zelda game on the NES compared to the N64 OoT
Excuses don't make up for flaws in a game, new players couldn't care less about them.
Every game has flaws to them even that new released over hyped singleplayer Public quest game has a bunch.
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Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »Where do you rubber band in Raging Tide? Because I don't recall ever rubber banding there, going back to the Rising Tide expansion.
One place that did have dreadful rubberbanding (temple of Shroud) has been fixed in recent patches, and the rubberbanding after landing on NPC heads was fixed long ago.
It got fixed a while ago, but it was the area around that palace where the RT elder hangs out. It was a place where you'd normally not walk around anyway, so it wasn't a real issue. It was just an example of rubberbanding not being the player's fault, since pretty much everyone had it there.
The Shroud one is also a good example.So you would rather they hand you your endgame gear from instances like other f2ps?
Well... yes? ''Hand'' sounds a little too much like it's free, though. It would be like farming TT for equipment, instead you'd be doing Lunar, FC etc.I haven't seen a rubberband anywhere in months.
Neither have I, but that wasn't even my point.I am dead serious. The pack sales aren't whats killing the economy. Most of that gear in packs is FARMABLE. And would be MILLIONS more expensive. Packs actually keep items CHEAPER for most players in most cases.
Except for the massive inflation Best Lucks cause. Besides, farmable and expensive? Sounds like a great f2p environment to me.It didn't hurt the game either as these are purely asthetic and have no real gameplay changing aspects to them.
Gameplay and game seem like different terms to me. Gameplay hasn't changed in ages, perhaps only when people started going crazy for APS and whenever a new class comes out. Morai skills too, perhaps, but not dramatically.
The game itself, on the other hand, got irreversibly changed by packs. Player mentality changed, availability of powerful equipment and utility items increased dramatically and is the only way of generating massive amounts of coins with Gold (edit: I guess Chest of Coins would actually be the first, but you get the idea). Quite a shift in balance towards paying players, if you ask me.Comparing a game thats running on a fossil for a gameengine which is limited in what it can do to todays games is hardly fair. That's like comparing a Legend of Zelda game on the NES compared to the N64 OoT
And? Why does it have to be fair? Either a game is better or worse than another game in someone's opinion, excuses don't matter.Every game has flaws to them even that new released over hyped singleplayer Public quest game has a bunch.
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If someone needs to use Cash Shop in order to get gear for Nirvana/Caster Nirvana, that player is really lazy. Most caster squads just require TT99 weapon. And you can have green TT99, which is the same thing as golden TT99.MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »I agree with you saying that he should find out for himself but the rest of that quote is ****.
This game is clearly pay2win no matter what you do. PK, Nirvana, Caster Nirvana, TW etc etc
In a way, yes, they are asking for pack sales every week.MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'm sure the players ask for pack sales every week right? /sarcasm
And they hit the spot right on. When they first introduced flyers and fashion in packs, players went crazy. Buying so much packs that tokens went down to 10k, which is good!MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »What happened to PWE releasing boutique items like mounts, flyers and fashion? They put them in packs now, more people spend money on the packs to get the items which fuels PWE's greed then the players want more coin for their real life cash. That's not the players fault, that's PWE's fault. Just look at the economy before the release of the first Anni packs, it was perfect.[/COLOR]
There were a lot of catshops that were selling more than 5000 tokens.
So, if players don't like something - they don't buy it. But if players like something, like fashion, mounts, etc, they'll shop like crazy, which is what happened.0
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