Cn someone teach me how to zhen?
LIO_SWRD - Archosaur
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Hey I've been thinking of going the zhening way to gain some money before higher lvls (No im not zhening at lvl67 im talking about when i reach 75 xD) So my point is, any experienced seeker can help me with some lesons about zhening?? Thanks xDb:victoryb:victoryb:victory
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You spin around that basically a full detailed summarize fact about zhen
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Mor_Toran - Sanctuary wrote: »
Ty for the link but i was wondering as a seeker xD i already knew the old fashioned wayb:laugh0 -
LIO_SWRD - Archosaur wrote: »Ty for the link but i was wondering as a seeker xD i already knew the old fashioned wayb:laugh
Hey Lio,
As a seeker it takes a while to get it up and working to solo zhen/or selling Zhen to other players who need it. There are a few people who do it diffrently...
This is what i do, but is not recomended unless you know what your doing. I solo zhen for my little sisters toons (shes only 6) i have cloud eruption on my genie that gives me just about 2 sparks. so im able to drop vortex and gather the mobs and put up vortex again, while my sisters little cleric heals me. (though i can do fine without one)
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My tip for you is to atleast get up to lvl 80 due to then you have your TT 80 gear rather than sitting with your TT70 gear
Aswell just to be safe get a HP charm and MP charm, Just in case you forget to click on you Herbs (Crab meats, and _____ forgot the mp herbs name)
To start off with, i only use a lvl 1 vortex atm but any lvl vortex works.
You'll need a cleric (if you can't handle the boss and mobs in the pits) or you can do it without. You'll need cleric buffs (maybe Barb buffs if you like) Bloodpaint from a sin is a MUST!
(do a mock up test to see how long you can last in the pits (fully buffed) to see if you can do without a cleric or with one)
Basically as said in a guide your going to need somebody who can pull in the respawning mobs, preferably a sin or a veno(basically any class that can pull into your vortex)
Since your going to have to stay put while somebody pulls in the mobs that have respawned after dying.
(Some people multiclient an alt for this, or have a friend who can do it outside the squad for an hour)
its quite the same as a guide though your the person thats gonna be relied on due to its only you and that (if your selling zhen) your going to have toons who are lvl 1-55/80
Hoped this helps a little bit... I havn't been a seeker that long but i have been around since PWI first started.101 Veno (Sage) (Archo Server)
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Raziyal - Archosaur wrote: »Hey Lio,
As a seeker it takes a while to get it up and working to solo zhen/or selling Zhen to other players who need it. There are a few people who do it diffrently...
This is what i do, but is not recomended unless you know what your doing. I solo zhen for my little sisters toons (shes only 6) i have cloud eruption on my genie that gives me just about 2 sparks. so im able to drop vortex and gather the mobs and put up vortex again, while my sisters little cleric heals me. (though i can do fine without one)
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My tip for you is to atleast get up to lvl 80 due to then you have your TT 80 gear rather than sitting with your TT70 gear
Aswell just to be safe get a HP charm and MP charm, Just in case you forget to click on you Herbs (Crab meats, and _____ forgot the mp herbs name)
To start off with, i only use a lvl 1 vortex atm but any lvl vortex works.
You'll need a cleric (if you can't handle the boss and mobs in the pits) or you can do it without. You'll need cleric buffs (maybe Barb buffs if you like) Bloodpaint from a sin is a MUST!
(do a mock up test to see how long you can last in the pits (fully buffed) to see if you can do without a cleric or with one)
Basically as said in a guide your going to need somebody who can pull in the respawning mobs, preferably a sin or a veno(basically any class that can pull into your vortex)
Since your going to have to stay put while somebody pulls in the mobs that have respawned after dying.
(Some people multiclient an alt for this, or have a friend who can do it outside the squad for an hour)
its quite the same as a guide though your the person thats gonna be relied on due to its only you and that (if your selling zhen) your going to have toons who are lvl 1-55/80
Hoped this helps a little bit... I havn't been a seeker that long but i have been around since PWI first started.
Ty very much had the doubt about it a while ago xDb:victoryb:pleased0 -
LIO_SWRD - Archosaur wrote: »Ty very much had the doubt about it a while ago xDb:victoryb:pleased
No problem i hoped it helped
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Do NOT get to lvl 80 as said above. I see so many seekers over 80 zhenning. I dont understand the customers pay for that. If you plan to sell exp for a lot of money. At least make sure you understand the exp formulas. Do not sell 80% exp because your level is too high. There is no way at all that you can make up for that with the extra killing speed from being higher level. Notice that while the shinrotwins do quite a lot more dmg than the tt70 ones, the weapon damage is a relatively small factor in the total damage output.
Over 77 = no go and the client should feel cheated if you try to sell him.
I actually even saw a lvl 83 seeker zhenning without jones blessing today. Poor sucker who's paying for that :S
To maximise damage output max your vortex to lvl 7 at 77. With herbs it is not problem maintaining vortex lvl 7 with less than 1500mp. If you want to be lazy and use a mana charm, you will need a bunch more MPs.
I actually wrote a 2 pages reply to this post yesterday but deleted it. I took the time to research and calculate everything. If you want to make 2.5m an hour, you should take that time too. Just wanted to say what i said because its sad that customers are ripped of by seekers that reduce exp by 20% or more due to their level.
If anyone on archosaur wants to buy zhenning from a lvl 77 seeker for optimised exp, send some ingame mail to either HrunsPanda or Gevonden
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HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: »Do NOT get to lvl 80 as said above. I see so many seekers over 80 zhenning. I dont understand the customers pay for that. If you plan to sell exp for a lot of money. At least make sure you understand the exp formulas. Do not sell 80% exp because your level is too high. There is no way at all that you can make up for that with the extra killing speed from being higher level. Notice that while the shinrotwins do quite a lot more dmg than the tt70 ones, the weapon damage is a relatively small factor in the total damage output.
Over 77 = no go and the client should feel cheated if you try to sell him.
I actually even saw a lvl 83 seeker zhenning without jones blessing today. Poor sucker who's paying for that :S
To maximise damage output max your vortex to lvl 7 at 77. With herbs it is not problem maintaining vortex lvl 7 with less than 1500mp. If you want to be lazy and use a mana charm, you will need a bunch more MPs.
I actually wrote a 2 pages reply to this post yesterday but deleted it. I took the time to research and calculate everything. If you want to make 2.5m an hour, you should take that time too. Just wanted to say what i said because its sad that customers are ripped of by seekers that reduce exp by 20% or more due to their level.
If anyone on archosaur wants to buy zhenning from a lvl 77 seeker for optimised exp, send some ingame mail to either HrunsPanda or Gevonden
LOL Panda, i didn't mean to be exactly lvl 80 he can chose weather he wants to zhen at lvl 75 etc to sell or not to. I was mentioning its a bit easier if you have no cleric to do it at lvl 80. I don't sell zhen ever i just help my younger sister. PLus he never specified if he wanted to sell zhen or not o.0 so i was giving him a range at 80 because its what most seekers do though i did sell zhen at 75 (but most seekers who sell at 75 are leveling themselves too) Most seekers at lvl 80 are lvling themselves to 85 then they start to fc. Reason being most seekers in arco sell at lvl 80 coz they wanna lvl to (not that i sold zhen or anything i just lvl my sister toons with a lvl 100 seeker
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You'll need around 2200mp to keep a L7 Vortex alive with just an MP Charm. It's pretty easy to get by dropping a few Perfect Aquamarines into your cape or hat.HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: »...If you want to be lazy and use a mana charm, you will need a bunch more MPs.
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Selling the Zhen doesn't seem cost-effective though.
At that level (70-85), lets say you're making 2.5m for one hour....
You're going to spend about 100-150k on repairs.
If you're charmed, you'll eat about half of an MP charm in an hour. (If you're using herbs, that's a bit more expensive than a charm).
So, let's do the math...
We'll figure 5m for the MP charm. It's a pretty common price among the servers atm.
Oh holy hell, you don't even need to do maths to see that spending 2.5m on an mp charm just used all of the money you gained from it. Then you add repairs and you're in the negative.
You're better off just questing with some friends and having them do pulls to your Vortex, or just questing and learning how to play.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I seem to recall using at most 1/4 of a charm when I was doing it to level. The repair cost is about right though.
That would make it closer to 1m an hour profit which is not shabby, but not really all that worth it either.0 -
SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »You'll need around 2200mp to keep a L7 Vortex alive with just an MP Charm. It's pretty easy to get by dropping a few Perfect Aquamarines into your cape or hat.
Selling the Zhen doesn't seem cost-effective though.
At that level (70-85), lets say you're making 2.5m for one hour....
You're going to spend about 100-150k on repairs.
If you're charmed, you'll eat about half of an MP charm in an hour. (If you're using herbs, that's a bit more expensive than a charm).
So, let's do the math...
We'll figure 5m for the MP charm. It's a pretty common price among the servers atm.
Oh holy hell, you don't even need to do maths to see that spending 2.5m on an mp charm just used all of the money you gained from it. Then you add repairs and you're in the negative.
You're better off just questing with some friends and having them do pulls to your Vortex, or just questing and learning how to play.
LOL! SY! this made me laugh XD
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HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: »
Over 77 = no go and the client should feel cheated if you try to sell him.
I actually even saw a lvl 83 seeker zhenning without jones blessing today. Poor sucker who's paying for that :S
To maximise damage output max your vortex to lvl 7 at 77. With herbs it is not problem maintaining vortex lvl 7 with less than 1500mp. If you want to be lazy and use a mana charm, you will need a bunch more MPs.
I actually wrote a 2 pages reply to this post yesterday but deleted it. I took the time to research and calculate everything. If you want to make 2.5m an hour, you should take that time too. Just wanted to say what i said because its sad that customers are ripped of by seekers that reduce exp by 20% or more due to their level.
If anyone on archosaur wants to buy zhenning from a lvl 77 seeker for optimised exp, send some ingame mail to either HrunsPanda or Gevonden
I actually knew about the exp loss at higher lvls i was kinda confused with the pit thing cause it was weird for me. I did some FC tday and got an idea of it but i'll need to check out the pits to get a mechanic idea. Ty for the help n.n0
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