To get G15 Morai, or not to get?
Knownase - Heavens Tear
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I'm currently having trouble deciding on getting G15 Morai Axes for the time being. I currently use a +5 r8 weapon, and TT90 zerk axes for Arma/etc. I do have plans on getting either r9 weapon or G16 Nirv Axes, but waiting on a long 2x event for that....
So my question is, should I just get the G15 Morai Weapon Hellfire Hatchets:Sky? Would I see significant damage increase from a equally refined weapon? Comparing +5 G15 Axes to +5 r8 polehammer that is.
I am a claw Barb with G16 +10 claws, so I can already DD well...but when I need to use axes, like BH99 SoT, or soloing Wood Pav with the anti-normal atk buff, this weapon would be nice in those situations.
This weapon would only be used until I get G16 Nirv axes/r9 weapon, but that's probably not going to be seen for a month or more.
So ultimately...should I get the Morai Weapon or just skip it? 17 mill is hefty-ish...but I can spare it.
Anyone that has it, please share your thoughts especially, but all input is welcome.
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So my question is, should I just get the G15 Morai Weapon Hellfire Hatchets:Sky? Would I see significant damage increase from a equally refined weapon? Comparing +5 G15 Axes to +5 r8 polehammer that is.
I am a claw Barb with G16 +10 claws, so I can already DD well...but when I need to use axes, like BH99 SoT, or soloing Wood Pav with the anti-normal atk buff, this weapon would be nice in those situations.
This weapon would only be used until I get G16 Nirv axes/r9 weapon, but that's probably not going to be seen for a month or more.
So ultimately...should I get the Morai Weapon or just skip it? 17 mill is hefty-ish...but I can spare it.
Anyone that has it, please share your thoughts especially, but all input is welcome.
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You can use my Damage Calculator for comparing r8 vs. morai g15 damage.
It would be an excellent weapon for Arma (in PvE anyway) for a few reasons:
-Arma doesn't rely on weapon damage
-60 slaying levels increases damage by 50%
-The weapon often has good HP stats (Vit and HP are the most common)
I'd say it's worth getting just for the sake of having it b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
If you can spare the 17mil, then I don't see why not.
I personally found the Morai weapon to be significantly stronger than my R8, but my Attack Levels played a big part in making it a better choice. In your case though, you can easily modify the Axe to give more HP+/Vit adds, and with the extra Slaying Level multiplying with your current attack level (Jones/O'Malley and whatever else)...it can add some oomph to your Armageddon's power.
On the other hoof, once you've gotten your NV3/R9 weapon, it wont be as useful anymore, and your current R8 is still reliable enough to get the job done. I suppose it all depends on how expendable that 17mil is to you~[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Remember: OP may be a duck|OP/GMs/Devs may not deliver|Search function is your friend|Lurk more|Be wary of Mods: they can't be trusted|This place isn't a hugbox|Your tears sustain me|Know what Bait is|"Soon" may never come|Postcount, Dubs, and other GETs are important|Don't revive long dead threads|There is a section for everything|You can be banned for anything|No Fun Allowed outside of OT|Sweetiebot rules OT|"Circlejerks" are inevitable|Threads can be derailed and saved|Those who use"XD" should off themselves at their earliest convenience|0 -
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Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'm currently having trouble deciding on getting G15 Morai Axes for the time being. I currently use a +5 r8 weapon, and TT90 zerk axes for Arma/etc. I do have plans on getting either r9 weapon or G16 Nirv Axes, but waiting on a long 2x event for that....
So my question is, should I just get the G15 Morai Weapon Hellfire Hatchets:Sky? Would I see significant damage increase from a equally refined weapon? Comparing +5 G15 Axes to +5 r8 polehammer that is.
I am a claw Barb with G16 +10 claws, so I can already DD well...but when I need to use axes, like BH99 SoT, or soloing Wood Pav with the anti-normal atk buff, this weapon would be nice in those situations.
This weapon would only be used until I get G16 Nirv axes/r9 weapon, but that's probably not going to be seen for a month or more.
So ultimately...should I get the Morai Weapon or just skip it? 17 mill is hefty-ish...but I can spare it.
Anyone that has it, please share your thoughts especially, but all input is welcome.
b:cute
Imo, yes, you should get the morai axe. why? first: the dmg of a r8 hammer is basically better than g15 morai axes, but the 60 slaying lvl gives a boost on dmg better than 40 atk lvls as seen on t3 (only mobs) i still don't have the axe, but i know some barbs who actualy prefer this axe than r8/r8r saying the dmg difference is around 3-4k min/max dmg
about the price, 17m isn't something really expensive nowadays, only this week i got 2 excitement cards besides the ecstasys, you can get 17m easily only with bh's, if you have an alt it's way better.
but if you ever get the chance to acquire a t3/r9 don't miss it, g15 morai can't be compared to those in terms of dmg.
and not that it's of some help, but the morai axes looks really badass b:victory
that's my opinion, and i hope it helps you, good luck with your t3/r9 remember september comes with 2x weeks b:victory
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I'll do some damage calcs later using my own build since I think we have close to the same gear, but I think for PvE the G15 Morai's about equal the G16 Nirvana axes in dps. I think they still lose out to R9 by about 6-10%, which isn't huge considering its about 99% cheaper. Kind of depends on the blessing you use and any DoTs or other attack levels. But I think G15 Morai ~ G16 t3 Nirvana.
My son is running around right now and I'm about to get him ready for bed then clean up the massive mess he's made in the past 4 hours, but once I'm done I'll start experimenting with pwcalc some.
In my own experience the Morai axes gave me about 1k more hp and at +5 are out dding my +8 R8 I had before. Morai are easy to reroll for the stats you want (200k and 2 days worth or Morai influence) and easy to get 2 sockets. But, they're relatively useless in PvP so you get them and are like "YAY!... I need another set of axes still."
I'm enjoying these, but still am thinking I should have just put that 17m towards R8r axes because those would double for both pvp and pve. Since my dps is done with claws, and yours also, the main reasons I use axes are in tiger form during pulls or for spike damage. Or just because most mobs are 2-4 hits and I'm too lazy to pop human to claw it down for .8 seconds. If I went R8r I could aim for 30+ def levels for pulling and still have had reasonable dph for both pvp and pve. Still, for 17m isn't a bad axe to tie me over until I pick my endgame axe.Seven 100+ characters leveled the hard way. Free to play. Mystic, Psychic, and Wizard left to level. b:victory0 -
Well, at this point, I'll probably get them, I only have 930 Influence Points and after maint, will have enough for a reroll, I wish to hit 2 sockets since PWDB lists a chance at 2 sockets at 25%.
Played a bit with Nowitsawn's Damage Calc, and the results yield nice numbers, so the damage upgrade should be noticeable. Just need to add elemental damage, so I can see how my Poison Fang integrates into it.
The only potential regret is that Anniversary is so close, and if it's like last year's 2x, given 24 days of it, then I can probably hit G16 Nirv/R9, depending how much I farm...b:surrender
Also, since r8r was bought up, on average, how many runs does it take from Trials, or the total cost for materials needed for r8r weapon? I've never ran Trials and since it's maint, can't really figure out the price from what HT would have.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Worthy of a double post, I got them. Still need work on getting the other socket and better adds, but can't complain. It already out DDs r8.b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I think your advisers missed or ignored this:I do have plans on getting either r9 weapon or G16 Nirv Axes, but waiting on a long 2x event for that....
and this:This weapon would only be used until I get G16 Nirv axes/r9 weapon, but that's probably not going to be seen for a month or more.0 -
Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »Also, since r8r was bought up, on average, how many runs does it take from Trials, or the total cost for materials needed for r8r weapon? I've never ran Trials and since it's maint, can't really figure out the price from what HT would have.
idk if r8r is a good choice atm, since mats are now untradeable, you would need lots, LOTS OF RUNS, to get the mats, besides luck, to get oricalcuns and etc. (those days i did some trials and haven't got a single oricalcum from packs.) also r8r has a better chance to get def lvls than GoF or atk lvls. so if i were you i'd stick with morai and farm t3/r9.I think your advisers missed or ignored this:
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I do have plans on getting either r9 weapon or G16 Nirv Axes, but waiting on a long 2x event for that....
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This weapon would only be used until I get G16 Nirv axes/r9 weapon, but that's probably not going to be seen for a month or more.
in my post i reminded about september's 2x weeks, also i said if he ever get the chance to acquire t3/r9 don't miss it cause the dmg can't be compared.
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Just my 2 cents..
I got the Morai G15 Axe. From first try it was 2 socketed with STR 18, VIT 19, Crit +2. Pretty much close to R8 stats. However at no refine it is better than R8+4. Probably i am gonna keep it till i get my T3 armor set, then i will probably get the G16 T3 weapon.
Honestly, I love it.0 -
Haderon - Raging Tide wrote: »Pretty much close to R8 stats. However at no refine it is better than R8+4.
only for PvE b:surrender0 -
BloodTyrant - Raging Tide wrote: »only for PvE b:surrender
Yes you are correct BloodTyrant. I forgot to mention that i am purely PvE oriented.0 -
I am not yet so far that i can afford these slaying level and attack level equipments, but how do these stack:
-Slaying level
-Attack level
-Double damage from weapon proc
-Crits
-Double damage from heaven flame
Do these All multiply ? So if you would have 100% on both slaying level, use demon sunder for a sure crit, heavens flame is active on the mobs and your sacrificial weapon procs you get normal damage *2*2*2*2*2 = 32* normal damage ? This would start to be an interesting armageddon0
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