This game really needs an overhaul
_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
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Really though. Random weapon drops should have a VERY small chance of ACTUALLY being good.
TT weapons need an upgrade. Especially TT100. That **** was original end-game.
Veno pets need an upgrade.
OHT gear needs a (slight) upgrade. Originally end-game too!
Lunar gear needs a (slight) upgrade. obviously before nv this was endgame too!
Quests need give more coin and exp.
There are a bunch of things that need to be revamped, however I cannot think of many more off the top of my head.
But you all know what I mean.
TT weapons need an upgrade. Especially TT100. That **** was original end-game.
Veno pets need an upgrade.
OHT gear needs a (slight) upgrade. Originally end-game too!
Lunar gear needs a (slight) upgrade. obviously before nv this was endgame too!
Quests need give more coin and exp.
There are a bunch of things that need to be revamped, however I cannot think of many more off the top of my head.
But you all know what I mean.
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I agree, and it would make the game interesting again... but I doubt it will happen.[SIGPIC]Octavia is best pony[/SIGPIC]
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This is already in place and it's called Nirvana. And it can be upgraded to grade 16. How much more of an upgrade does this gear need?_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
TT weapons need an upgrade. Especially TT100.
Lunar gear needs a (slight) upgrade.0 -
Just the gears dropping from mobs for lvl 90+ it's all craps, could be nice they put gears that people actually might want to wear.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Cotillion - Dreamweaver wrote: »This is already in place and it's called Nirvana. And it can be upgraded to grade 16. How much more of an upgrade does this gear need?
There's always the special Lunar Glade stuff that was never sought after, and the rings and ornaments that were never implemented. Oh, and I agree with OHT having an upgrade, since its pretty much good for -Chan ornaments/-int wrists at this point.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Remember: OP may be a duck|OP/GMs/Devs may not deliver|Search function is your friend|Lurk more|Be wary of Mods: they can't be trusted|This place isn't a hugbox|Your tears sustain me|Know what Bait is|"Soon" may never come|Postcount, Dubs, and other GETs are important|Don't revive long dead threads|There is a section for everything|You can be banned for anything|No Fun Allowed outside of OT|Sweetiebot rules OT|"Circlejerks" are inevitable|Threads can be derailed and saved|Those who use"XD" should off themselves at their earliest convenience|0 -
I really can not think of many more things that need to be revamped as I am slightly inebriated xD. We all know though that some of the old **** in this game needs to be remade so it can compete in today's Dog-eat-dog perfect world haha.Facebook.com/foxi187
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Making it harder now would only discourage new player from investing. Just having the choice of going whit the in-game items or the boutique, keeps a lot of undecided people.
The harm is already done, there's no real point to make it harder now, it would only make the gap between MEGA CSER and regular normal player even more important.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
i agree with buffing veno pets or giving something new thats better nix and herc have become outdated and usless0
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**** veno pets.I think they need to do something with AC pets maybe give them abtribute that goes towards player stats such as vit,dex,mp or str and many other things.There can be alot of potential done with AC pets and also prob will make them worth more and actually have a reason to summon the pet out..This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
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_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Really though. Random weapon drops should have a VERY small chance of ACTUALLY being good.
TT weapons need an upgrade. Especially TT100. That **** was original end-game.
Veno pets need an upgrade.
OHT gear needs a (slight) upgrade. Originally end-game too!
Lunar gear needs a (slight) upgrade. obviously before nv this was endgame too!
Quests need give more coin and exp.
There are a bunch of things that need to be revamped, however I cannot think of many more off the top of my head.
But you all know what I mean.
We already have all this, it's called nirvana 3rd cast which is affordable by everyone.
And on the coming expansion venos will get a upgrade, so the only missing thing from all the list will be a upgrade to pets, and the quests.0 -
Azura - Lost City wrote: »We already have all this, it's called nirvana 3rd cast which is affordable by everyone.
Not affordable to me... I have never had more than 92 mil.
Also, the point I am trying to make is that NV and r9 are the best and only real "Endgame" gears. EVERYONE has the same r8 weapons. Once I took a screenshot of me standing next to five random clerics. Guess what all of us had in common? r8 weapon. We need more variety, and to make more variety they should upgrade what was already "Endgame" a long time ago.TCHP - Lost City wrote: »Making it harder now would only discourage new player from investing. Just having the choice of going whit the in-game items or the boutique, keeps a lot of undecided people.
The harm is already done, there's no real point to make it harder now, it would only make the gap between MEGA CSER and regular normal player even more important.
I never said ANYTHING about making the game harder. I said upgrade. Making the quests more reward-able would discourage new players? whaaa lol. I think you missed the point here xDFacebook.com/foxi187
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MissingNo - Lost City wrote: »i agree with buffing veno pets or giving something new thats better nix and herc have become outdated and uslessAgreed
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They should also Make the Pets (Rare Skills~Training Books) Easier to obtain; rather then that Crappy! 1 in a Billion Chance!! You actually got~in finding them now.....
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Ehhh...._Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »TT weapons need an upgrade. Especially TT100. That **** was original end-game.
What's wrong with them? You do realize they can be made into nirvana right? Not only that but what's wrong with the TT100 gear? such as
Inferno-Heaven Uniquer That have great stat adds there. Also Voidrider's touch, extra range for spear, striking dragon, etc... Those aren't bad anyway. So no_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Veno pets need an upgrade.
Skill slots are too little and the pets are too weak, just don't invest too much money on them and avoid being pure magic then and you'll be fine. I have no care about this anyway, so it is a so-so._Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »OHT gear needs a (slight) upgrade. Originally end-game too!
It looks nice, but that will not mean anything. A low chance of getting useful stats endgame but it is far too low anyway, even worse full elemental resistance too. No they don't need an overhaul_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Lunar gear needs a (slight) upgrade. obviously before nv this was endgame too!
You mean remove the stupid fee in lunar? Again, nothing wrong with lunar gear... No need an overhaul_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Quests need give more coin and exp.
For 60 and up, the only thing I agree with.I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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Every quest has to give us 1 mill coins after lvl 90 b:avoid[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=15031077002&dateline=1409280330[/SIGPIC]
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Fail_BM - Raging Tide wrote: »Every quest has to give us 1 mill coins after lvl 90 b:avoid
I actually did all the fking guests in this game. My available quest log is literally empty low and high lvl. If they implemented this. I would RAGEQUIT.0 -
Certain things not being ''endgame'' anymore isn't really such an issue, it's called progress (or regress, depending on your opinion of pwi b:chuckle), but some things indeed don't really make sense anymore.
TT100 red mats could use a fair change, keep Heart of Nature at what it is right now (because of TT100 fists still being very popular) and make the other 2 red mats a more common drop and cheaper with ToBL. The TT100 weapons certainly aren't that bad, but the majority of them aren't worth the cost right now.
Quests handing out lots of money wouldn't really do the economy much good. It would probably be better if they handed out some utility items like a lot of the newbie quests do. Stuff along the lines of Silver Charms for the slightly harder quests, account bound dragon orbs, wind widgets (who the hell even buys these anymore?), untradeable guardian scrolls etc etc...Reyi - Heavens Tear wrote: »I actually did all the fking guests in this game. My available quest log is literally empty low and high lvl. If they implemented this. I would RAGEQUIT.
In order to make any changes to existing quests, I guess they could just delete the currently existing (non-cultivational, non-OHT etc.) quests and add an identical set of quests with new rewards. That way everyone would just have their quest logs full again.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I guess what I am trying to say is that TT100, Lunar glade, and OHT were all originally END game. TT100 costs at the least 50 mil. That is almost the price of r8, which has a nice top, ring, and pants (If you are a veno).
All of these were originally endgame and all are completely blown out of the water by r8.
Trust me I have a TT100 sinrabansho +5. It SUCKS compared to even an unrefined r8 glaive.
You see my issue!?
I do not want to HAVE to get r8 like everyone else.Facebook.com/foxi187
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I agree on veno pets, though I think the real reason the venos don't use pets anymore is the huge gap between their own lvl and the pets lvl. Not that all venos are power lvled noobs. It just became nearly impossible to keep more then 1 pet at lvl. Just doing bh daily will make pets slack behind. I never got why I don't see venos that thought their pet skills like slow, howl and threaten.OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »**** veno pets.I think they need to do something with AC pets maybe give them abtribute that goes towards player stats such as vit,dex,mp or str and many other things.There can be alot of potential done with AC pets and also prob will make them worth more and actually have a reason to summon the pet out..
All I want for my AC pets is an automatic pick-up option.
I always wanted -interval to affect the interval between pick-ups and -channel to reduce dig time. But that's a bit off-topic.0 -
_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »I guess what I am trying to say is that TT100, Lunar glade, and OHT were all originally END game. TT100 costs at the least 50 mil. That is almost the price of r8, which has a nice top, ring, and pants (If you are a veno).
All of these were originally endgame and all are completely blown out of the water by r8.
Trust me I have a TT100 sinrabansho +5. It SUCKS compared to even an unrefined r8 glaive.
You see my issue!?
I do not want to HAVE to get r8 like everyone else.
do you really expect endgame gear to stay stagnant for 4 years? its not a rational expectation for any MMO.
your problem isnt even with the gear or the price, or the availability, its purely aesthetic.
sorry, but when its easy to get to 100, the best option for the non-big spender population will be the option chosen by the majority.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Dont think alot got what u were trying to say lol
All _Bloody_Fox_ was doing is suggesting the improvement of the old content to make it more up to date with the new stuff.
- Quest giving better rewards such as coins and exp/sp,
cuz we all know not many do quests do to the rewards being ****.
- old gear like TT/Lunar and oht
being improved with better stats so people choose to use other gear then
the regular r8/r9 or nirvy gear that not all can afford.
Would give more variety in the game instead of seeing everyone with the same wep/armor.
- Venos pets being improved.0 -
kazingozing wrote: »Dont think alot got what u were trying to say lol
All _Bloody_Fox_ was doing is suggesting the improvement of the old content to make it more up to date with the new stuff.
- Quest giving better rewards such as coins and exp/sp,
cuz we all know not many do quests do to the rewards being ****.
- old gear like TT/Lunar and oht
being improved with better stats so people choose to use other gear then
the regular r8/r9 or nirvy gear that not all can afford.
Would give more variety in the game instead of seeing everyone with the same wep/armor.
- Venos pets being improved.b:thanks
Yep, and also Quests, like the {Bounty Hunter} Quests should've always have lived up too their names:
(And givin us a Decent (Coin reward) aswell as a large (Rep Bonus) also.)
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And {Divine Contracts} shoulda also given us:
((Rep) aswell as a sizeable (Spirit Points) rewards..))
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_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Also, the point I am trying to make is that NV and r9 are the best and only real "Endgame" gears. EVERYONE has the same r8 weapons. Once I took a screenshot of me standing next to five random clerics. Guess what all of us had in common? r8 weapon. We need more variety, and to make more variety they should upgrade what was already "Endgame" a long time ago.
That just means that R8 is a good weapon for the cleric. And really, considering that it comes with an automatic -channel% on it and has damage comparable to G15 Nirvana at a mere fraction of the cost explains a lot.
Similarly, you'll see that majority of BMs choose Deicide as their "endgame" claw, even though it's ****. Also sins with Barrier Thorn: Nirvana. And you see tons of Archers with R8 as well.
The thing is, for majority of the people, cost is an issue. And cost wise, R8 is a hilariously good choice, no matter which class you pick. It costs less than G13 Nirvana, is almost always better and it comes with a decent ring and, for some classes, one of the best chest plates you can get in the game.I never said ANYTHING about making the game harder. I said upgrade. Making the quests more reward-able would discourage new players? whaaa lol. I think you missed the point here xD
They're already doing that with the lowbie quests.
The thing is, no matter how much they boost the quests, people will still flock to buying heads, because that's what everyone else does. And when everyone else does something, you don't have much of a choice in the matter. Just try to organize a BH39, BH51, BH59, BH69 and see what happens.
Also, I find it a bit funky that you're asking for TTs and Lunar to get upgrades. Because no matter how you look at it, Nirvana is the upgraded TT and upgraded Lunar. And considering that G16 Nirvana stands on equal grounds or is superior to R9, that's speaking a lot.
OHT gear not endgame? Have you forgotten about Snowflake Sole and Helm of Holy Punishment? Well hello, because those are OHT and very endgame.
The only thing on your list that isn't really there is the veno pet thing. And since this is PWI we're talking about, the best you can hope is a new pet. Which would **** off just about everyone who's bought a hercules or a phoenix.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »the best you can hope is a new pet. Which would **** off just about everyone who's bought a hercules or a phoenix.
Or they just add a craft that requires a nix/herc egg + 99k SoF/PF or whatever.
The new herc would look like the PQ1 boss, and the nix would be the big one from Nirvana b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »Or they just add a craft that requires a nix/herc egg + 99k SoF/PF or whatever.
The new herc would look like the PQ1 boss, and the nix would be the big one from Nirvana b:chuckle
Oh come on, the Giant Bunny all class pet is horrible enough, we don't need any more giant thingies like that.
It's already sad enough to see an R9 wizard sit inside the ball in 34. We don't need venomancers sitting in their pets like that.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »do you really expect endgame gear to stay stagnant for 4 years? its not a rational expectation for any MMO.
your problem isnt even with the gear or the price, or the availability, its purely aesthetic.
sorry, but when its easy to get to 100, the best option for the non-big spender population will be the option chosen by the majority.
lol the gap in power between tt, lunar, oht and r8 is aesthetic? Please read more carefully before you reply.b:byekazingozing wrote: »Dont think alot got what u were trying to say lol
All _Bloody_Fox_ was doing is suggesting the improvement of the old content to make it more up to date with the new stuff.
- Quest giving better rewards such as coins and exp/sp,
cuz we all know not many do quests do to the rewards being ****.
- old gear like TT/Lunar and oht
being improved with better stats so people choose to use other gear then
the regular r8/r9 or nirvy gear that not all can afford.
Would give more variety in the game instead of seeing everyone with the same wep/armor.
- Venos pets being improved.
Yes.
Basically we need more variety with endgame gear. Look at the biggest p2p game. Almost No one has the same gear. Where-as in PW it is all fkn cookie cutter bull ****
And who cares if people will still flock to heads if quest rewards are increased? At least some won't. At least some will actually want to quest. What if the quest rewards were increased exponentially so it is almost equal to heads?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »It would probably be better if they handed out some utility items like a lot of the newbie quests do. Stuff along the lines of Silver Charms for the slightly harder quests, account bound dragon orbs, wind widgets (who the hell even buys these anymore?), untradeable guardian scrolls etc etc...
This idea, dislike I do not. Cept maybe the wind widgets - damn fairy box keys and reflectivational shardrific things eat up enough bank space as it is.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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yeah I think I skip the word "upgrade" when I 1st read. In any case, I think upgrade are already hard enough to get.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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It's true that certain weapons are just plain ol' better than other ones. Who doesn't want to have the best weapons for their class? When you compare the refines between one and another, you can just tell which are the better to invest in.
One potentially quick fix for the "everyone has the same **** but it's all still really good" problem is to create Skins for these weapons, that would be equipped like fashion items in a new "weapon" slot on the fashion tab.
I think weapon fashion is a great untapped source of income for PW, which should surely encourage them to look into it as a real possibility.
When I first joined PW, I thought people who bought fashion here were crazy, because the fashion of the game I came from actually gave you improved stats, while PW fashion is purely decorative. But I think, for a lot of people who invested a lot into their current weapon and have no plans on upgrading directly, weapon skins would be an excellent way to give the world more variety. So while no, a good amount of us are not willing to cs our way to r9 glory, we might be tempted to now and again buy a nifty skin to cover up our old worn r8 or whatever.
I would really also like OHT to be given a boost. It doesn't even have to be a gigantic stat boost or whatever, but personally, I find it **** that not every OHT gear has the complete elemental resistance set. I have seen so many really nice pieces of OHT been made useless mostly because it's missing 2 or 3 of the elemental resistances. Okay who has made a specifically ELEMENTAL resistance piece of jewelry that came out to have only 1 resistance? Yeah <.< that's freaken lame. The basic resistances shouldn't be considered a random stat.0 -
Damage was already done, the only way this game can survive is making stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger gear.
Like:
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R8 gear
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R$ gear
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Bashmaster - Raging Tide wrote: »I have an idea, quit complaining and quit posting the same old ****.
i have a better idea stfob:laugh we dont want your qq0
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