caster nirvana

PanDaaxpress - Lost City
PanDaaxpress - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
edited September 2012 in General Discussion
what is the point of caster nv when you have 5.00 nv?

ppl wc all day for caster nv and idk whyb:surrender
Post edited by PanDaaxpress - Lost City on

Comments

  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City wrote: »
    what is the point of caster nv when you have 5.00 nv?

    ppl wc all day for caster nv and idk whyb:surrender

    . . . . .


    1. Not everyone is 5.0

    2. Caster nirvana is better for you know.. casters who cant get into those "almighty" aps nirvanas.

    3. Caster nirvana gives out more money than a normal nirvana and takes about the same amount of time as a regular nirvana (except the super amazing +12 squads). That's also why they are restricted in how many they can do a day.
    [SIGPIC]http://i48.tinypic.com/2r61kw3.jpg[/SIGPIC]
    Ty Fon for the Siggy <3

    The rare and exotic Sage Archer of HT. b:cute
  • scruncy
    scruncy Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    caster vana has different drops. each boss drops 0-4 chests ( normal vana 0-2).
    last boss drop is 6 ( normal i think 3or4).
    that makes caster worth running even during normal times.
  • PanDaaxpress - Lost City
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    ohh ok so its a better drop rate but how?
  • Tiare - Lost City
    Tiare - Lost City Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Cause it is like that. And as someone said ... NOT EVERYONE IS 5.0. and casters want to have some money + good gear too.
    b:bye
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City wrote: »
    what is the point of caster nv when you have 5.00 nv?

    ppl wc all day for caster nv and idk whyb:surrender

    Becuase most people CAN"T 5,00 nv?
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Let me put in simpler terms,

    caster vana (non 2x) = 5 aps vana during 2x

    caster vana (during 2x) = 2~3 x profit 5 aps vana (during 2x)

    Basically if you do caster vana it is equivalent of running 2x vana everyday. My bm gets 2 talis a day. Let's say total 2x time is 2 months. Each day i can do 20 runs during 2x. In 60 days i have done 1 200 vana runs.

    During no 2x, that is 10 months, that is 300 days, i do 2 runs a day, that is 600 runs. But each run is the same as 2x for 5 aps, that is 1 200 5 aps runs.

    Somewhere in between i will run out keys. End point being, if you play this game regularly, do your bh, vana is always 2x for you.

    If you can't find caster squads as a bm (non-caster), in future take casters to your 2x vana runs, they will appreciate it and some will take you regularly on caster runs. This game is about making friends from all classes, and magically the game becomes fun to play b:bye.
  • Deoxyribose - Heavens Tear
    Deoxyribose - Heavens Tear Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    wrong topic.
  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Because I can solo it using 2 characters on macros in ~20-25 minutes per run and make 15-30m per run during 2x? b:victory
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Still trying to move your cursor, eh?
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Cause casters are not 5.0 ....
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    b:dirty "I **** rainbows and love everyone"-Longknife b:cute
  • PanDaaxpress - Lost City
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Cause casters are not 5.0 ....

    isnt that obvious
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City wrote: »
    isnt that obvious

    Concidering the OP can't grasp why people do caster nirvana when you can do 5,0 normal nirvana, aperently not
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • PanDaaxpress - Lost City
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Concidering the OP can't grasp why people do caster nirvana when you can do 5,0 normal nirvana, aperently not

    i never said every1 can afford 5.00 aps is there a post saying that no it doesnt say that what it is, is that no1 wcs for 5.00 nv
  • PanDaaxpress - Lost City
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    and my question is how is there better drops i never said anything about 5.00 that every1 has it
  • PanDaaxpress - Lost City
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    and mainly what i was suggesting about 5.00 nv sq are faster so what the point of caster


    cheaper but if u make a sin 5.00 is easy most ppl in caster nv are already r8 its rlly easy to get 5.00 anyways
  • Asthariel - Dreamweaver
    Asthariel - Dreamweaver Posts: 498 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    There is more drops just cause it's how the instance has been made -.-
    And the "point" of caster nirvys is that there are much more drops, and the difference is even more noticeable during x2. (during x2, the last boss in caster nirvy can drop up to 8 raptures...)

    Besides, caster nirvys aren't that much longer then 5.0 nirvys, and considering how much more drops caster nirvy has, the latter is actually more effective when it comes to money making.

    Plus, if you're lucky enough to be something like R8+10 or better you can really make massive amounts of money in caster nirvy during x2, cause you can make 3-4 man squad, or even solo it. The very best squad I ever had during x2 in caster nirvy was only made of R8/Nirvy+10 or R9 casters. Each run took us 10 mins.

    This is why caster nirvy can actually be better than 5 aps nirvy.
    [SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=8149449007&dateline=1299646202[/SIGPIC]
  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    5.0 is jsut for making more runs per hour..you dont need 5.0...nubs
    This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
    Proud owner of many mains.101 bm,101 seeker,101 demon sin,100 sage sin,101 archer,101 barb,100 cleric,100 wiz( first toon since sept 08 finally made it in 2013)newly added mystic 100 HA,72 psy.
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    People WC more for caster Nirvana for a simple reason:

    You have to do them daily, else your talismans will disappear (or you have to trade them in for subs, which isn't much better). Keys for normal Nirvana can be saved for 2x drops.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • PanDaaxpress - Lost City
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Asthariel - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    There is more drops just cause it's how the instance has been made -.-
    And the "point" of caster nirvys is that there are much more drops, and the difference is even more noticeable during x2. (during x2, the last boss in caster nirvy can drop up to 8 raptures...)

    Besides, caster nirvys aren't that much longer then 5.0 nirvys, and considering how much more drops caster nirvy has, the latter is actually more effective when it comes to money making.

    Plus, if you're lucky enough to be something like R8+10 or better you can really make massive amounts of money in caster nirvy during x2, cause you can make 3-4 man squad, or even solo it. The very best squad I ever had during x2 in caster nirvy was only made of R8/Nirvy+10 or R9 casters. Each run took us 10 mins.

    This is why caster nirvy can actually be better than 5 aps nirvy.

    finally the full answer ty
  • PanDaaxpress - Lost City
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    People WC more for caster Nirvana for a simple reason:

    You have to do them daily, else your talismans will disappear (or you have to trade them in for subs, which isn't much better). Keys for normal Nirvana can be saved for 2x drops.

    how do u get talisman?
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City wrote: »
    how do u get tailsman?

    -1 for free from the Mysterious Old Man every day
    -2 from BH100 (one from BH I and another from BH II)
    -Unlimited from the Corona order depending on your influence (30 influence per). This makes for at most 1 talisman per day, but the influence can be saved for 2x (also requires 5000 prestige).
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City wrote: »
    how do u get talisman?

    I am seriously beginning to wonder if OP is playing the same PWI that most of us seem to be playing.

    First thing when caster came out, i went to this page

    http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Palace_of_Nirvana by typing "pwi nirvana" in google

    2nd i went to this website http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/search_mob i typed in vanished ancestor (simply because last boss drops the good stuff, raps)

    i got these two hits

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/25598

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/31973

    Since the first link is the boss we see, drops 2 items during normal times. That must mean the other boss is caster boss. He drops 6 items in normal times, and 12 items in 2x.

    That showed me that caster drops are better for this specific boss. Naturally you cycle through all the bosses and see for yourself.

    Sure i put in a bit more work than most people, but is it really that hard to do the above when looking for info? It's not like we have to decrypt game files waiting hours and hours, finding hex values for things, converting hex values into something comprehensible.
  • MysticHayley - Heavens Tear
    MysticHayley - Heavens Tear Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    . . . . .


    1. Not everyone is 5.0

    2. Caster nirvana is better for you know.. casters who cant get into those "almighty" aps nirvanas.

    3. Caster nirvana gives out more money than a normal nirvana and takes about the same amount of time as a regular nirvana (except the super amazing +12 squads). That's also why they are restricted in how many they can do a day.

    wtf u talking about if u make the supper amazing caster squads its takes about 3-4 minutes to do a run for each caster run...well so far my fastest is 3 mins 54 seconds. 4 mystics 1 cleric and a veno lol b:chuckle
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City wrote: »
    and mainly what i was suggesting about 5.00 nv sq are faster so what the point of caster


    cheaper but if u make a sin 5.00 is easy most ppl in caster nv are already r8 its rlly easy to get 5.00 anyways

    The 'point' of caster nirvana is that it is for casters.
    How dificult is that to understand?

    And rank8 is one of the cheapest pieces of interval for a sin, exactly how does having R8 make it easy to get 5aps?
    You still need the daggers that cost 140million (unrifined), and than +10 it, in order to be able to get into those 'awesome' 5,0 normal nirvana squads.

    Combined with the fact that a single caster run with a full squad makes MORE money than a 3 man normal nirvana squad (also, is alot easier), you might see why there are even 5,0 OP people making casters to farm money
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Because caster nirvana is more fun than standing there, twitching stuff dead?

    And maybe because not everyone rolls an aps char and gears it up to 5.0 + 10 whateverbbq people demand nowadays?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Licensed tail brusher of ƙɑƙʊɱɑʊ ~ only the fluffiest
    Outrunning centaurs since 2012~
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    OP doesn't to realize that caster people like wizard, psychic, mystic and cleric are not needed and asked in normal 5.0 run, the only caster class they take is venomancer, so people do caster nirvana to be able to do nirvana.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    b:dirty "I **** rainbows and love everyone"-Longknife b:cute
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Because caster nirvana is more fun than standing there, twitching stuff dead?

    Sure, for the first few times b:sweat
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    OP doesn't to realize that caster people like wizard, psychic, mystic and cleric are not needed and asked in normal 5.0 run, the only caster class they take is venomancer, so people do caster nirvana to be able to do nirvana.

    That, too. Even though clerics can also get into normal nirvana on rare occasions.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PanDaaxpress - Lost City wrote: »
    isnt that obvious

    its your thread, genius
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • TCHP - Lost City
    TCHP - Lost City Posts: 577 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    PWI History lesson,

    NV came out, 5.0 found the fastest way to earn was to kick all the useless class outside of it, making it a sin/bm/barb land

    Other class complain that 5.0 were getting all the money, so PWI made a new NV for caster only, whit 2x drop and less time to make it. This became the psy/wiz/cleric land of money.

    Also if they did'nt have made a nv caster, not many caster class would have invested in this new gear.

    It's always about the money !
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    TCHP - Lost City wrote: »
    PWI History lesson,

    NV came out, 5.0 found the fastest way to earn was to kick all the useless class outside of it, making it a sin/bm/barb land

    You are generous to put barb there, i know many barb that during 2x doesn't log pwi cause they cannot get in 5aps nirvana or caster nirvana while everybody do that they have nothing to do, on my server the normal nirvy squad is 5 sin/bm and one veno, oh and a sage veno cause for them demon suck.

    Remember a long time ago people making GV was trying to get a rainbow squad to get the beans bonus thing, it's what they should do with the normal nirvana, put a bonus if it's a rainbow squad like a boss more dropping rapt/canny or something that will make people wanna do it so archer and barb will maybe get a nirvana they can do too.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    b:dirty "I **** rainbows and love everyone"-Longknife b:cute

Categories