Whats your goto strat against each class?

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Reyi - Heavens Tear
Reyi - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Assassin
Vs Assassin
I usually go for 1 shot raher than aps with them. With all their control skills and damage avoidance, less hit to kill is better for me.

Vs Psychic
Condense thorn. ... . Yeah ..

Vs BMs
Stealth and go for a stun lock or they'll stun lock you and its GG.

Vs Archers.
Throat into tackling slash from stealth into SS and hope to aps them down

Vs Barb
3 spark from stealth, Telestun, APS APS APS APS APS lol.

Vs Veno's
Stun lock usually does the trick.

Vs Seekers/Mystics
I have no actual strat for seekers or mystics.

Vs Wizard
Throatcut.. slash.. sting.. throatcut.. usually dead by then


P.S. I'm full r9 demon sin and I'm newb.
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  • Tsyren - Archosaur
    Tsyren - Archosaur Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    I can PM you the section of the guide I wrote up for strats.

    Or the whole guide, if you like. Pvp only.
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  • Reyi - Heavens Tear
    Reyi - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Tsyren - Archosaur wrote: »
    I can PM you the section of the guide I wrote up for strats.

    Or the whole guide, if you like. Pvp only.

    SURE!! =Db:victory
  • Tsyren - Archosaur
    Tsyren - Archosaur Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    It's too long, message me your email.

    "Your message has 47530 characters. Please shorten it to 5000".

    Nty
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  • Daemon_Imp - Lost City
    Daemon_Imp - Lost City Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Reyi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    they'll stun lock you and its GG.

    just wondering, do you use tidal protection or focused mind?
  • Reyi - Heavens Tear
    Reyi - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Daemon_Imp - Lost City wrote: »
    just wondering, do you use tidal protection or focused mind?

    I always demon tidal. I have good enough gear that I can soak some dmg without focus. Especially against a BM.

    Any good BM would still kite till ur tidal wears off anyway
  • Tsyren - Archosaur
    Tsyren - Archosaur Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    It depends on the situation in PK, though typically I use tidal more.

    In mass PvP, I'm squishy as **, so I use Focused Mind, because no ones really stunlocking me. I also use it against players that hit particularly hard, where it is damage, not control skills, that will kill me. *I.E, nuke seekers*

    In anything else, I use tidal. Avoiding 50% of CC skills is amazing. It allows you to get a lucky break if your stunlock fails, etc.
    A tip for tidal: Tidal>When it ends, Maze Steps>Vac powder>repeat.

    Ofc, I have both demon versions, so I have both at all times - though I am switching to sage fairly soon.
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  • Traydor_Styx - Raging Tide
    Traydor_Styx - Raging Tide Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Equal grounds I can one or two shot casters.
    Assassins seems to be who one shots the other and the waiting game.
    Archer would be likely like the casters.
    BM run
    Seeker run

    run - Defense they hold isn't worth the trouble. As there Defence just ****s your weapon up.
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  • Reyi - Heavens Tear
    Reyi - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Traydor_Styx - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Equal grounds I can one or two shot casters.
    Assassins seems to be who one shots the other and the waiting game.
    Archer would be likely like the casters.
    BM run
    Seeker run

    run - Defense they hold isn't worth the trouble. As there Defence just ****s your weapon up.

    BMs have physical marrow that reduces maximum physical dmg. If you are having trouble breaking through that defence, just let them marrow up and hit them with Bramble Rage (genie skill). 20k 1 shot.

    Seekers on the other hand don't nearly have the same pdef as BMs. Instead what they have are def lvls. So they are more tanky to a certain lvl.

    Also hence why i have no strt on Seekers atm.
  • Tsyren - Archosaur
    Tsyren - Archosaur Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Seekers are relatively easy if they're not good.
    They're horribly hard if they're excellent.
    I swear this to my heart. I kill some R9 Vit stone +10 seekers easier than R8+5.
    Here, I'll post this from my PK section:
    Seekers have the tankability of a blademaster with defense levels. They also have powerful ranged attacks, and can do all sorts of interesting things with their skills, such as reflect their debuffs onto you. The higher level ones have a skill that allows them to see you in stealth, and they also have a skill which deals constant damage to those around them, making it easy for them to locate you if you don't get out of range. Knifethrow is useful for interrupting long channeling skills.

    Kindly read up the genie skills "Heart of Steel", "Whirlwind", and "Absolute Domain". These are my bread and butter anti-seeker skills.
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  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    vs bm I aps
    vs wiz I aps
    vs barb I aps
    vs veno I aps
    vs archer I aps
    vs cleric I aps
    vs sin I aps
    vs psy I aps
    vs seeker I aps
    vs mystic I aps
  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Reyi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    P.S. I'm full r9 demon sin and I'm newb.

    Vs Assassin
    Full R9 if they are Full R9 too, Get their Faith/Belief and TP on CoolDown, Sleep>Switch to APS gear>HH>APS>Win, I've never had that strategy fail.
    If they're Full APS geared, it comes down to who's luckier with TP, lol

    Vs Psychic
    Knifethrow past SoR or Fortify/MS past SoStun, As a full Rank 9, This fight should be extremely easy. You may have to waste Faith getting hit on a stun and forcing them out into black.

    Vs BMs
    TP>2.00 Range>APS
    If extremely defensive, 3 spark/APS/Win

    Vs Archers.
    Tackling to keep them down, keep in their face with APS, they dai. :3

    Vs Barb
    3spark, OI, APS, Win

    Vs Veno's
    Waste their faith, APS, Win

    Vs Seekers/Mystics
    Seekers are 3 spark, OI, APS Win

    Vs Wizard
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  • Tsyren - Archosaur
    Tsyren - Archosaur Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Against wiz:

    -Demon: Chi Drain must always be on CD.

    Stunlock. Skillspam only if Arcane defense.
    Will Surge = Resist Force of Will.
    They won't kill you through ultis, you gotta worry about the poke skills.
    Tidal up all the time.
    Shadow jump.

    Against Badge/Fortify: Proc their badge with Telestun. Follow with headhunt upon badge, or deep sting seal etc. Whirlwind/Throatcut against fortify.

    Against Faith (rare!): Massive DPH skills. If they're kiting your dmg, they can't hit back.

    Genie MUST have:

    -Soul of Fire (anti sutra combo)
    -Whirlwind
    -AD/Faith

    Occult Ice, will surge, lawbreaker, Amp skills optional. Holy path recommended.
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  • Subtraction - Harshlands
    Subtraction - Harshlands Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Pytharia - Lost City wrote: »
    vs bm I aps
    vs wiz I aps
    vs barb I aps
    vs veno I aps
    vs archer I aps
    vs cleric I aps
    vs sin I aps
    vs psy I aps
    vs seeker I aps
    vs mystic I aps

    this should be sticky, although you forgot stealth and occult ice
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  • Daemon_Imp - Lost City
    Daemon_Imp - Lost City Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Subtraction - Harshlands wrote: »
    this should be sticky, although you forgot stealth and occult ice

    I agree. and maybe the triple spark too. gotta be demon ofc.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    Daemon_Imp - Lost City wrote: »
    I agree. and maybe the triple spark too. gotta be demon ofc.

    So where would that leave me, a 4.0 base +10 Sage sin? Do I just walk out of safe zone and get instantly dropped like a fly?
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  • Daemon_Imp - Lost City
    Daemon_Imp - Lost City Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    D; i dunno... i didnt know sins had the option to go sage O.o pretty sure there were only 5aps 3 spark from stealth occult ice demon sins b:shocked this is news to me.

    perhaps you could start the trend for this interesting emergence of sage sins b:chuckle
  • Reyi - Heavens Tear
    Reyi - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    Daemon_Imp - Lost City wrote: »
    D; i dunno... i didnt know sins had the option to go sage O.o pretty sure there were only 5aps 3 spark from stealth occult ice demon sins b:shocked this is news to me.

    perhaps you could start the trend for this interesting emergence of sage sins b:chuckle

    Sage sins three spark from stealth, inner, mire, SS into Rift... GG
    I plan to swap Sage once I hit 103. Already have all the skills!!
  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    In TW I do what the squad leader wants me to do, in duel's ect it is whoever sends the invite/ask's b:chuckle
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  • witniss
    witniss Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    Depends on how tanky
    I usually try and end it quick by telestun subsea ih power dash rift
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  • Buff_me - Raging Tide
    Buff_me - Raging Tide Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    And i wondered where all thos spark occult noobs come from...
  • LaYsDiL - Harshlands
    LaYsDiL - Harshlands Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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    Sins really underestimate barbs if equaled gear...

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