I think is about time to see all Nirvana drop!

RyuTiger - Raging Tide
RyuTiger - Raging Tide Posts: 308 Arc User
edited August 2012 in General Discussion
I am getting tired of making Nirvana and get 2 canny per run or like today, last boss drop 5 canny's and the leader say she got 1 canny from all chests, 6 in total. I mean tell that to your mom maybe she believe you.....Make the drop so all squad members can see them. I think is getting old the chest and the "bad drop" thing! b:angry
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I would prefer that the boss directly drop the canny, shard, p.stone or mirages, but some people will tell you to don't run with random if you don't know/trust them.

    I personally ask the leader what was all the drop, if shards, mirages etc...

    I envy the sin skill that they can see the invnetory of people so they are sure to know if the person lie about the drop, but that still don't protect again scam since the person can go with all drop.
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  • RyuTiger - Raging Tide
    RyuTiger - Raging Tide Posts: 308 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I would prefer that the boss directly drop the canny, shard, p.stone or mirages, but some people will tell you to don't run with random if you don't know/trust them.

    I personally ask the leader what was all the drop, if shards, mirages etc...

    I envy the sin skill that they can see the invnetory of people so they are sure to know if the person lie about the drop, but that still don't protect again scam since the person can go with all drop.

    I come with my sin and i see canny's in the inventory but they can easy say they have it from other runs...Is sad because all members work as much for the drops....Not fair!
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I never really did understand why the bosses dropped chests containing random items when said items can just drop from bosses with the same rates...

    Edit: RyuTiger, perhaps you could check their inventory before reaching the second boss?
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I come with my sin and i see canny's in the inventory but they can easy say they have it from other runs...Is sad because all members work as much for the drops....Not fair!

    You need to check before the run at the entrance, if the person have 5 canny before start and have 15 at the end than that mean the run give 10.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I come with my sin and i see canny's in the inventory but they can easy say they have it from other runs...Is sad because all members work as much for the drops....Not fair!

    Check their inventory at the start of the run and at the end of the run. Verify any numbers to your squad that the person says. I also check after each of the bosses to see if the person is opening them after each boss. Some do, some don't. IF they are it's a good way to get a running tally and know if it's been a fail run so far or not.

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  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I never really did understand why the bosses dropped chests containing random items when said items can just drop from bosses with the same rates...
    As I understand it, it's because the RT dev team didn't know how to get the bosses to drop 100 perfect stones, because mobs don't drop stacks of items. (They don't drop stacks of arrows either, they drop 'quivers', which post-drop are turned into arrows. RT devs didn't know how to do this, so moved the drop table into the chest. As I understand it, anyway.

    And yeah...Shadow Sight is good for this. Check inventory before run of the banker for any existing cannys, then check the number at the end. Any sin with this skill will always know if they're being lied to or not.
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    As I understand it, it's because the RT dev team didn't know how to get the bosses to drop 100 perfect stones, because mobs don't drop stacks of items. (They don't drop stacks of arrows either, they drop 'quivers', which post-drop are turned into arrows. RT devs didn't know how to do this, so moved the drop table into the chest. As I understand it, anyway.

    I see...
    If that's the case, then perhaps if they were to ever change the chests into drops, they could turn the 100 Perfect Stones into a Chi-Stone Chest that always contains them, and have it drop alongside the other items.
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  • RiddleMeThat - Lost City
    RiddleMeThat - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    this is why I check their bags right at the start of the runs, see if they brought any cannies or shards with them before starting. Also, get the squad on the same page about the leader not opening the boxes until the very last run, this ensures that they dont run off to their banker and switch items off. then , before they open, you can check the bags again.

    If they are honest people, they wont mind having their bags checked. I had someone **** on me once for checking his bag, its nothing personal, just taking measures to avoid scamming.

    I dont know about you guys, but I dont like the fact that the skill has a casting animation, hello, make it obvious that youre snooping people's bags. b:surrender
  • Reliea - Sanctuary
    Reliea - Sanctuary Posts: 685 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Somehow I get the feeling this is one of the reasons shadow sight was invented >.>
    Really it's only a problem for Castervanas since there's like 3 sins per squad in normal vanas usually b:chuckle
    Mystics or Psys should get a bag-checker skill too to even the field a bit for the casters. I would have said Clerics, but Clerics are already OP with their no xp loss passive skill of awesomeness *jealous* b:laugh

    Interesting about the reason for the chests being about the chi stones... they could totally solve that problem by not having chi stones as an option for a reward.
    That'd be way awesome.
  • shotwhointhewhat
    shotwhointhewhat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    As I understand it, it's because the RT dev team didn't know how to get the bosses to drop 100 perfect stones, because mobs don't drop stacks of items. (They don't drop stacks of arrows either, they drop 'quivers', which post-drop are turned into arrows. RT devs didn't know how to do this, so moved the drop table into the chest. As I understand it, anyway.

    The technical aspect of what you said is true, but not really why they chose to make the bosses drop a pack. That is more of a myth like how people say the current chinese devs can't modify the original game files.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2012

    edit: Ninjaed by Bella.

    lol two times today i see that. b:chuckle

    @Topic: If the boss was dropping directly the canny, p.stone, shards and mirages that would also make people see that ye it's possible to get p.stones in nirvana.

    That happen time to time that we get someone that never saw p.stones as drop and think it's a joke that we can get them in nirvana.
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  • shotwhointhewhat
    shotwhointhewhat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    If you are only getting 2 crystals per run and you can only do three a day, then it seems like it would take forever to get anywhere. Geez, good thing I am a cash shopper. Those drops suck balls.
  • dog10240
    dog10240 Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I come with my sin and i see canny's in the inventory but they can easy say they have it from other runs...Is sad because all members work as much for the drops....Not fair!

    Look at their inventory before and after the nirvana runs, and see how many they had before starting and after.
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The sin skill doesn't help in Caster Nirv though. I say just get rid of the perfect stone drops so that we can have drops without the chests. I'm personally always worried that someone will think I'm stealing if I have bad enough luck to get 2+ shards in a row. x.x
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  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I am getting tired of making Nirvana and get 2 canny per run or like today, last boss drop 5 canny's and the leader say she got 1 canny from all chests, 6 in total. I mean tell that to your mom maybe she believe you.....Make the drop so all squad members can see them. I think is getting old the chest and the "bad drop" thing! b:angry

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  • Mr_Buffs - Dreamweaver
    Mr_Buffs - Dreamweaver Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    bump to fight spam

    all classes should have this skill since the devs aren't smart enough to have the bosses drop items other than chests...the skill is otherwise useless
  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I am getting tired of making Nirvana and get 2 canny per run or like today, last boss drop 5 canny's and the leader say she got 1 canny from all chests, 6 in total. I mean tell that to your mom maybe she believe you.....Make the drop so all squad members can see them. I think is getting old the chest and the "bad drop" thing! b:angry


    Why don't they just make it so everyone gets a 'bound chest' that way no one will have anything to have a problem about. You have a quest system that can give items, you can change it.

    Why is it already done in Delta? Why isn't it in Twilight Temple? Same with Nirvana, Same with the other dungeons. Implementing the 'roll' option might be a bit to costly as well.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    bump to fight spam

    all classes should have this skill since the devs aren't smart enough to have the bosses drop items other than chests...the skill is otherwise useless

    Bah some fail sins on my server use that skill on the friday assault to kill low lvl that have a lot of DQ items (using the skill to make drop DQ items), so yea for a ''useless'' skill some sins make a lot of free money and DQ points with 2 skills.
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