fc do's and don'ts
SereRawr - Archosaur
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It has come to my attention that some people have no idea what the hell they are doing in fc so I made a list which will be added too as time goes on.
1. Cleric must never go afk in the middle of a boss
2. Dont tell the seeker to vortex every mob
3. Don't tell the seeker to vortex every mob
4. Don't tell the seeker to vortex bosses that launch exploding attacks or do things like the rune wolf
5. Do not pull mobs too boss then reset them and do a big pull that even a seeker cant handle with vortex and a cleric
that happened to me today and it bugged me
6. ALWAYS KILL THE HARPY'S dont wait till heads start to do them -_-
7. Activate heads only after all mobs are dead
8. If someone says they arent ready to attack do not charge in like a dumbass.
9. NEVER and I mean NEVER dual client 2 FC's at once if your a cleric in one. I've had this...let's say they learned their lesson. AFK'ing in midbosses to hyper in other FC on other character. You shouldn't do this even if your not a cleric, it pisses off people you afk and slow them down even if your a veno or not-so needy class as imporant as cleric/seeker/wizard. <----said by dog10240 and added to the original post
10. Make sure the barb has invoke and knows what tanking is
11. never thought i would have to put this........never activate heads till full squad is there.
I know some people know how to fc this is only for those who dont.
Feel free to tell me more and I will add
1. Cleric must never go afk in the middle of a boss
2. Dont tell the seeker to vortex every mob
3. Don't tell the seeker to vortex every mob
4. Don't tell the seeker to vortex bosses that launch exploding attacks or do things like the rune wolf
5. Do not pull mobs too boss then reset them and do a big pull that even a seeker cant handle with vortex and a cleric
that happened to me today and it bugged me6. ALWAYS KILL THE HARPY'S dont wait till heads start to do them -_-
7. Activate heads only after all mobs are dead
8. If someone says they arent ready to attack do not charge in like a dumbass.
9. NEVER and I mean NEVER dual client 2 FC's at once if your a cleric in one. I've had this...let's say they learned their lesson. AFK'ing in midbosses to hyper in other FC on other character. You shouldn't do this even if your not a cleric, it pisses off people you afk and slow them down even if your a veno or not-so needy class as imporant as cleric/seeker/wizard. <----said by dog10240 and added to the original post
10. Make sure the barb has invoke and knows what tanking is
11. never thought i would have to put this........never activate heads till full squad is there.
I know some people know how to fc this is only for those who dont.
Feel free to tell me more and I will add
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#commonsense0
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to bad not much people choose to display it thob:surrender0
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MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »#commonsense
Sums up everything in the original post.
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SereRawr - Archosaur wrote: »1. Cleric must never go afk in the middle of a boss
Common sense: RL > game.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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If a seeker is pulling do not kill the shade before they get there.
Annoys me to no end when I am pulling on my seeker and I ask the sins not to kill the 3rd shade because I want to use it to start vortex. But what happens everytime, they kill it, so I am forced to either abort the pull or hope to god I can click the channeling skill and not be interrupted by the mobs before it channels.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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SereRawr - Archosaur wrote: »It has come to my attention that some people have no idea what the hell they are doing in fc so I made a list which will be added too as time goes on.
1. Cleric must never go afk in the middle of a boss
2. Dont tell the seeker to vortex every mob
3. Don't tell the seeker to vortex every mob
4. Don't tell the seeker to vortex bosses that launch exploding attacks or do things like the rune wolf
5. Do not pull mobs too boss then reset them and do a big pull that even a seeker cant handle with vortex and a cleric that happened to me today and it bugged me
6. ALWAYS KILL THE HARPY'S dont wait till heads start to do them -_-
7. Activate heads only after all mobs are dead
8. If someone says they arent ready to attack do not charge in like a dumbass.
I know some people know how to fc this is only for those who dont.
Feel free to tell me more and I will add
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Sadly most of this could be avoided if we didn't have greedy power levelers who can't find another source of income and so help ruin the ability of the playerbase further and not care because it fills their wallets.
Why you ask? Imagine running a BH or FB with AT level characters in relation to the instance instead of having some high level run it for you. It gives you a warm up or a taste if you will for what your position / role you play in your squad.
I'm not saying its oh the only way for them to learn their class is by doing quests. Far from it. I'm saying group instances are where they learn. And learning when it's not as difficult and progresses into harder difficulties is the SMARTER route to take.
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KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »Sadly most of this could be avoided if we didn't have greedy power levelers who can't find another source of income and so help ruin the ability of the playerbase further and not care because it fills their wallets.
Why you ask? Imagine running a BH or FB with AT level characters in relation to the instance instead of having some high level run it for you. It gives you a warm up or a taste if you will for what your position / role you play in your squad.
I'm not saying its oh the only way for them to learn their class is by doing quests. Far from it. I'm saying group instances are where they learn. And learning when it's not as difficult and progresses into harder difficulties is the SMARTER route to take.
ijs.
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Descendus - Lost City wrote: »Hmmm *KawaiiJen + Dev powers = Game fixed....?* ...Sweet baby Jesus...
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Leveling old school doesn't cure lack of common sense. P-Leveling or hyper FFC with someone doing it for you doesn't go to 100; it stops at by 80. We've always had players that don't actually play getting xp: World Quest, Crazy Stone, etc. It shouldn't take more than a day to learn your class adequately, and it shouldn't take months or even a day to not **** up on the new BH bosses. Stupid / ignorant players will always be: It's nothing to do with p-leveling.0
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Leveling old school doesn't cure lack of common sense. P-Leveling or hyper FFC with someone doing it for you doesn't go to 100; it stops at by 80. We've always had players that don't actually play getting xp: World Quest, Crazy Stone, etc. It shouldn't take more than a day to learn your class adequately, and it shouldn't take months or even a day to not **** up on the new BH bosses. Stupid / ignorant players will always be: It's nothing to do with p-leveling.
I think you completely missed where I said group instances. There's things people STILL haven't learned because they didn't mess around with all of their skills. Yesterday alone I had to teach 3 people how their own classes skills worked and I don't even actively play that class.
When you're powerleveled you skip the part where you play around with different skills and see how they can interact with each other. Yes there will always be those few that no matter what can't play their class properly power leveled or not. But there's quite a few that have the potential to be better but unless shown will never know it because they didn't play around with it.
I will also say yes some people can be power leveled and play their character just fine because they have had plenty of MMO experience from prior games.[SIGPIC]http://i48.tinypic.com/2r61kw3.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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Leveling old school doesn't cure lack of common sense. P-Leveling or hyper FFC with someone doing it for you doesn't go to 100; it stops at by 80. We've always had players that don't actually play getting xp: World Quest, Crazy Stone, etc. It shouldn't take more than a day to learn your class adequately, and it shouldn't take months or even a day to not **** up on the new BH bosses. Stupid / ignorant players will always be: It's nothing to do with p-leveling.
There is much more to playing a Assassin then just running up to something, Tri-Sparking and attacking. I was told to use my Bow on the New SoT boss once as at the time, I was the only sin in squad and they were afraid I'd steal agro >__> I told them I'm not a brain dead APS Sin, put on my Chill of the Deep and said I'll use my debuffs. Also you never stop learning while playing your main/favorite class, there will always be new ways to approach a difficult situation when something goes wrong during a barb's pull or whatever happens.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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It shouldn't take more than a day to learn your class adequately, and it shouldn't take months or even a day to not **** up on the new BH bosses.
I do Bh 100 daily on four classes(minus lunar). Would you believe usually in 2 out of 4 of those bhs(aba+sot) theres is always one or more that just will not stop attacking when the boss has self buffs? Im not talking about casters to far in to cancel spell, or 1 skill from melees, im talking flat out sparking/apsing right through the buffs.
After all this time, you would think it would be much more rare, but no.. its every single time theres a bh SoT or bh Aba. It doesn't matter so much when you are in a squad that can take the boss out before it buffs(Aba), but for the slower squads, or the SoT boss.. its just frustrating. And then they always seem to type in squad chat, "wtf?" when it fully heals or squad wipes everyone. b:surrender0 -
SereRawr - Archosaur wrote: »It has come to my attention that some people have no idea what the hell they are doing in fc so I made a list which will be added too as time goes on.
1. Cleric must never go afk in the middle of a boss
2. Dont tell the seeker to vortex every mob
3. Don't tell the seeker to vortex every mob
4. Don't tell the seeker to vortex bosses that launch exploding attacks or do things like the rune wolf
5. Do not pull mobs too boss then reset them and do a big pull that even a seeker cant handle with vortex and a cleric that happened to me today and it bugged me
6. ALWAYS KILL THE HARPY'S dont wait till heads start to do them -_-
7. Activate heads only after all mobs are dead
8. If someone says they arent ready to attack do not charge in like a dumbass.
I know some people know how to fc this is only for those who dont.
Feel free to tell me more and I will add
Tell this to all the FC-babies. See how they respond...it's sad. All they will know is how to do big room. Every other part of the FC dungeon=wtf when was this added? to them like it never existed to em.
oh and:
9. NEVER and I mean NEVER dual client 2 FC's at once if your a cleric in one. I've had this...let's say they learned their lesson. AFK'ing in midbosses to hyper in other FC on other character. You shouldn't do this even if your not a cleric, it pisses off people you afk and slow them down even if your a veno or not-so needy class as imporant as cleric/seeker/wizard.0 -
Tell this to all the FC-babies. See how they respond...it's sad. All they will know is how to do big room. Every other part of the FC dungeon=wtf when was this added? to them like it never existed to em.
oh and:
9. NEVER and I mean NEVER dual client 2 FC's at once if your a cleric in one. I've had this...let's say they learned their lesson. AFK'ing in midbosses to hyper in other FC on other character. You shouldn't do this even of your not a cleric, it pisses off people you afk and slow them down even if your a veno or not-so needy class as imporant as cleric/seeker/wizard.
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good to see other people are greatly annoyed by idiots in fc squad sure when I'm seeker and get free fc i do it right I dont go all nooby and **** ik what I am doing.0
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KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »Sadly most of this could be avoided if we didn't have greedy power levelers who can't find another source of income and so help ruin the ability of the playerbase further and not care because it fills their wallets.
Why you ask? Imagine running a BH or FB with AT level characters in relation to the instance instead of having some high level run it for you. It gives you a warm up or a taste if you will for what your position / role you play in your squad.
I'm not saying its oh the only way for them to learn their class is by doing quests. Far from it. I'm saying group instances are where they learn. And learning when it's not as difficult and progresses into harder difficulties is the SMARTER route to take.
ijs.
i agree with on everything but its just that these days its very hard to find people at your level range who actually want to do the fbs and bhs and even if you find someone most times the squad is not balanced an no one would want to try since theres no tank or healer. personaly i still would go into a cave alone and see how far i can get.......then i die or run out before i kick the bucketb:surrender0 -
Even if you tell the cleric (or other class) to don't AFK, they can have emergency (go get a beer or walk the dog), some people go in instance while they are working and need to AFK cause they got work coming, some people go AFK cause the phone ring (yep some people doesn't have cell or phone without cable, but they have internet and headset).
Every squad do it differently, some squad only kill the middle harpy and don't have any problem with the other harpy, some people kill them all, some don't kill them all, but aggro them when they pull the room.
The best way to do it is ''communication'' ask the barb (or puller) if he can pull without aggro the harpy.
Same with the pull (exp room and other pull in the instance), ask people what they can handle.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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10 seekers are NOT the only good aoe dds <.<0
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I do just fine as a seeker tyvm and some clerics go afk so that they can blame the squad if they die.0
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SereRawr - Archosaur wrote: »I do just fine as a seeker tyvm and some clerics go afk so that they can blame the squad if they die.
i mean the fact that people only seem to want seeker as the aoe dd in fc0 -
ah idk why0
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LordOfMagic - Raging Tide wrote: »i mean the fact that people only seem to want seeker as the aoe dd in fc
Because they use HA and can take heavy hits as big room/XP halls are pure melee mobs. Wizards on the other hand...go *squish* because of AA.0 -
Because they use HA and can take heavy hits as big room/XP halls are pure melee mobs. Wizards on the other hand...go *squish* because of AA.
If the wizard goes *squish* one of 2 things went wrong or both.
1. The wizard didn't expel.
2. The BM didn't stun and HF.
3. Where is the archer in all of this?! Apparently we aren't AoE DD >_>[SIGPIC]http://i48.tinypic.com/2r61kw3.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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Because they use HA and can take heavy hits as big room/XP halls are pure melee mobs. Wizards on the other hand...go *squish* because of AA.
ive did the first big pull ( one to runewolf ) with no bb but bm did stun an hf if the wiz is good enough or smart they would have expel on there genie0 -
LordOfMagic - Raging Tide wrote: »ive did the first big pull ( one to runewolf ) with no bb but bm did stun an hf if the wiz is good enough or smart they would have expel on there genie
Most people don't know their own class now/don't have the gear until 100 so I wouldn't expect a AA wiz to be trusted to do your brilliant strategy. Glad to see you know what to do, since most don't.0
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