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mavrick11 Posts: 6 Arc User
edited August 2012 in General Discussion
HI ,

Just wondering is it really that much difference to be full soc with DOT

or would it be better to whack in VIT +10 stones?

if you compare the dmg output vs HP

as you can gain either 24 Atk lv or 240 Vit.

Also what would you recommend to soc for full dex sin 5 aps G16.
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mavrick11 wrote: »
    HI ,

    Just wondering is it really that much difference to be full soc with DOT

    or would it be better to whack in VIT +10 stones?

    if you compare the dmg output vs HP

    as you can gain either 24 Atk lv or 240 Vit.

    Also what would you recommend to soc for full dex sin 5 aps G16.

    Depends what you want to do with your sin. This belongs in the Sin subforum though.
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  • Kaytrine - Heavens Tear
    Kaytrine - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Well that entirely depends if you have enough refines. At +10, you generally don't need further health; therefore atklvls would make more sense. Besides, at 5.0 (I assume you are demon), the more dmg you do, the better.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    You can't directly compare DoT with Vit stones since they accomplish completely different things. It is up to you to determine how much you value added attack over added survivability.
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  • mavrick11
    mavrick11 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Wanna use it both for PVE and PVP

    @ the moment i have full DOT but @ the npc wher eyou test your dmg
    my wifey only does like 6 k less dmg on normal atk.b:cry

    We have precisely same refining and weapons is exactly the same.
  • Kaytrine - Heavens Tear
    Kaytrine - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mavrick11 wrote: »
    Wanna use it both for PVE and PVP

    @ the moment i have full DOT but @ the npc wher eyou test your dmg
    my wifey only does like 6 k less dmg on normal atk.b:cry

    Wolf-->triple spark-->inner-->mire-->frenzy-->subsea-->condense thorn (adds like 1% more dmg lol)-->Earthen Rift = GG

    and Maybe because ur wife's gear is better? or better refined weapon?
  • mavrick11
    mavrick11 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    LOL no refining is also the same b:cry
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mavrick11 wrote: »
    Wanna use it both for PVE and PVP

    @ the moment i have full DOT but @ the npc wher eyou test your dmg
    my wifey only does like 6 k less dmg on normal atk.b:cry

    We have precisely same refining and weapons is exactly the same.
    Keep in mind DoT's only give a 1% boost per.
    Kaytrine - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wolf-->triple spark-->inner-->mire-->frenzy-->subsea-->condense thorn (adds like 1% more dmg lol)-->Earthen Rift = GG

    and Maybe because ur wife's gear is better? or better refined weapon?
    You misread his wife hits less then him.
    mavrick11 wrote: »
    LOL no refining is also the same b:cry

    Refines can take care of the hp. Its more of a question of defense or attack, which only you can decide.
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  • mavrick11
    mavrick11 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    @ KawaiiJen

    as i worked it out you get almost 3k+ hp with 240 vit stone socket in your gears

    and as i have it if you put JOSD(+2 def lv) it can only go into G15 gears?

    versus +24% more dmg(24 atk lv).

    What will be the best would?
  • Kaytrine - Heavens Tear
    Kaytrine - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mavrick11 wrote: »
    @ KawaiiJen

    as i worked it out you get almost 3k+ hp with 240 vit stone socket in your gears

    and as i have it if you put JOSD(+2 def lv) it can only go into G15 gears?

    versus +24% more dmg(24 atk lv).

    What will be the best would?

    Not sure if Kawai would agree with me but, if your after best for pvp and pve. DoT you aps gear. If you have money to spend, JOSD your g16/r9.
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mavrick11 wrote: »
    @ KawaiiJen

    as i worked it out you get almost 3k+ hp with 240 vit stone socket in your gears

    and as i have it if you put JOSD(+2 def lv) it can only go into G15 gears?

    versus +24% more dmg(24 atk lv).

    What will be the best would?

    The purpose of JoSD is to cancel out the Attack levels. It's VERY rare in PK (TW excluded) where you will run into a player with lower attack levels then your defense levels. So you are only getting a lowered 1% damage taken per defense level instead of a 1.2% defense out of it.

    I personally went Vit stones in my gear due to various reasons. The biggest one was Archers have such low defense in the first place it's not as effective as lets say a Barb or BM to JoSD. Sins have the same issue with defense. So IMO JoSDing a Sin is a waste due to the fact you have low defense and almost no defense levels in the first place.

    As a class that has A LOT of CC and defensive skill sets in your favor I would personally lean toward DoT over Vit because of it.

    But that is my opinion take it with a grain of salt on how you play. (Because I'm also that oddball SAGE archer that you never see anymore)
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