Hey Put That Lowbie Dq Back To Old Nerfed Price

dont panic, they raised the amount you get for doing quests.

This is silly.
There are no low levels out there botting like in China.
Over here there are hypers and Frost.
The very, very few low levels left now who actually grind and quest a little are just being robbed by this.

b:cry I hope this get's changed back. I refuse to Frost my alts and this complete nerf is just ridiculous.

EDIT: After logging in, I found that the increase in coin drops is much more than I thought it would be. It offsets the DQ item nerf.
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Only the DQ21 and DQ31 items were nerfed. DQ41 was supposedly nerfed, but I checked in game and their npc price was normal.

All other DQ items have not had their prices changed.

Actually log in before you judge. The increase in coin drops from killing normal mobs DOES seem significant and I think it really lessens the blow for the DQ item nerf.

DaKaan - Harshlands wrote: »

i still can think of ways to make money of low dq's. you just need to think and not be a complete fc hyper noob..

You tell us

DaKaan - Harshlands wrote: »

i still can think of ways to make money of low dq's. you just need to think and not be a complete fc hyper noob..

Hm, well there's bank mat DQ's which are sort of pointless to sell because I've had times when I've had 50+ of each on a new toon just from questing, after bank quests. Setting up my cash shop for uber cheap mats usually results in no one buying, probably from already having so many of the mats themselves.

There's selling DQ to people actually doing Dragon Quests which...to be fairly honest aren't many. (Except me because I want a mold but am too cheap to buy DQs)

Then there's actually doing the DQ quests and selling the dragon orders to people that aren't cheap enough to do the quests themselves and have coin to spare, which, as above, aren't that many.

I guess people will still buy them for the DQ points, but the price would have to be lowered substantially to compensate for the fact that they only ncp for one coin now. I doubt they'd be worth the repair/pot costs for most farmers.

b:surrender Tell us how you think low dq's could still make money?

I'm having a hard time just updating the client as it is and its been two hours since I tried to start it up, so I'm here wandering the forums to see what has been found to be true. And this by far is what hurts the most.

I'm not a CSer. I'm not a Merchant. I'm not a new player. We always hear these 'No one says you have to spend money, just play the game' or 'Stop QQing and just quit.' and normally the way to fight back is to say you work hard for your stuff, but you can't really prove you did.

When I began in Nov. 09' I used to think it was hard to come up with enough coin to survive. With gold being 300k -- I thought, there is no way I can accomplish that! DQ wasn't nerfed at all, and I depended on it to survive. Of course, you have the other side of pwi which is mounts and fashions, everyone has it, you eventually want it, so saving up was not as hard until they screwed up the DQ prices by half at least which meant double the work to save for anything. How can low lvls possibly save for an npc weapon? How can a new person who has become interested in this game find a way to survive. Not only has this game added MORE powerleveling options, it has gotten rid of the most essential thing low levels needed to survive here. I guess PWI assumes every new toon being born is someone's alt and that said person has plenty of coin to provide them.

I think they are really trying to squeeze out decent players who earn not charge. I'm neutral to say, if you want to charge your way through, go right ahead, but least be aware there ARE people who refuse to stoop low to spend hard earned (possibly struggling to get) cash for pixel r9 gears. There ARE people who enjoy the game to be with friends and possibly have fun trying on new fashions and mounts, but to limit this enjoyment to the people who have endless amount and or able to farm the DQ that DOES make a difference . . it just sucks.

Now, I'm just wondering what is keeping me here with this game with all these changes. So much powerleveling, so much charging, so much talk about becoming R9. I miss the old days. PWI is going to be ruled by those who flash their cards; oh wait it already is. b:cry

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Now that youre unwilling to NPC those low level DQ why not use them for their actual purpose and do actual Dragon Quests?

Youre supposed to quest with them anyway. Honestly I think thats what I used most of my DQ for back in my lowbie days. I never remember NPCing them being a significant source of income.

Is anyone else baffled as to why so many level 100s are complaining about the price of DQ21?
People complain way too easily.

You do realize someone new to the game would have no clue as to what a dragon quest is right? I don't know why people with 100's are complaining about it with their low lvl's they can just send them coin. Someone who is new to the game though who doesn't know anything is going to be screwed.

To all who will possibly say to either accept the "current standard" of pw or quit the game entirely. ive got news for you, all who say to quit pw after the vast majority of us veterans of pw have been on here for over 3 years and counting, know what it was like in the old days of pwi. we had the challenge of farming, grinding coin, drops, the whole 9yrds of doing anything we could to survive. even with the gold prices being 300k+, we still could buy gold in game without swiping moms credit card or putting rl money into the game. so to all who are having us veteran players accept the "next generation of play" you guys need to grow some brains cause you all wouldnt know what it was like back when this game first came into existence. all of us veteran players liked the challenge of getting our armor, weapons, fashion, mounts, flyers, the works. some might of even traded whatever you had for something of equal value. so to all who say that we who are QQing/complaining bout how the game is going, i think your time is up for you guys to quit pwi permanently and immediately. GO CRAWL UNDER A ROCK AND CHEW ON A CAN OF WORMS.

Thanks PWI for ruining a perfectly good wholesome game that alot of us have enjoyed playing over the years. how much lower will you guys go before you most likely will cause a major leave fest of players. as of tues nights patch, your reputation has become totally shot. so you guys better fix everything or alot of us veterans will end up leaving. ty for reading. (for all the good that it'll do since the devs have their ears full of wax/pond water)

Why is it so hard to think of others in this game? Why must someone who mentions the worry for low lvl or new players always get torn to pieces for saying their opinion on the matter. Sure, my Veno MAY be level 92, that does not mean because I am a high level I've turned my back on how I originally got where I am now today in this game. I'm old school, I still DQ grind how I did before and farm herb in Hell just like every other person who havent used up the good ol'credit card. I save up and sure, time to time transfer coin around to my alts just to get by, but its not millions and millions, its everything but THAT.

Not everyone who IS a high level has an OP toon to farm like nothing. You know ways to farm, you aren't clueless and clearly, you have no worry for it anymore for being a high level. Least consider how a new player will come into the game without knowledge of what we know. They'll probably make it but barely until they are a decent level. So yeah, sue me if (as a high level) I shouldn't complain about the well-being of new/low levels who have NO rich alts to mooch from.

<_< Well, I'm much less concerned about the DQ price nerf now. I logged in on Jer, killed a level 52 mob in one hit and got around 240 coins. The highest I got from those low level mobs were 400+ coins in a single drop.

Good lord all the proverbial newbies will have more coin than I do. b:shocked

And if I'm lucky, the price for the DQ I need will drop due to the lesser npc value and I can get my Dragon Quests done

All I have to say is WOW!!!! I have not even logged in yet just got around to updating wasn't home to check out the new stuff when the server came back up. Now after Reading the comments here in this thread; I'm not sure if I really want to log-in LOL.

The game was great when it came out, people worked for their gear and such. Gave you a good feeling of self achievement. Not to forget, there was more team work in parties and factions. Which over time I've seen diminished to GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME! Now what a lot of veterans to this game that enjoyed the hard work see is unskilled players that are power leveled to level 100+.

Great job PWI for putting the final toughes to RUINING A GREAT GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!b:angry

I think I will be migrating out of here slowly as will most veterans to the game are saying.

As for all you that did not work your rear off to get Items before PWI introduce HYPERS and such take your laziness and ......... well I'll put it nicely put it were the sun don't shine. The veterans have been in the game longer then you and have the right to speak.

this is just sad. Very bad move PWE

Sidwinder - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You do realize someone new to the game would have no clue as to what a dragon quest is right? I don't know why people with 100's are complaining about it with their low lvl's they can just send them coin. Someone who is new to the game though who doesn't know anything is going to be screwed.

Uhm, Dragon quest was one of the first things I knew about when I first logged into the game. The npc is right there at the starter towns, any noobie with a healthy sense of curiosity is going to click on it(and presumably begin making plans to save for a violet lightning, at least that's what I did)

Of course this doesn't take away from the fact that this DQ price nerf shouldn't have gone through to our version in the first place, seeing as how botters are far less of a problem here than people not being on the map at all.

At least they still get the DQ points, that's something unique to our version.

This post is neither to praise nor condemn PWE. It's merely my own conclusions
after 3 years of playing & observing.

I think PWE is actually doing the smart thing from a money-making perspective.
Giving incentive & the means to get to high level faster. I daresay it's the
higher levels that end up spending more $$$.

I had to face it, nowadays 3 years is like 3 generations when it comes to change
in the gaming world. For I see when in game that the players in general seem to be
LOVING IT. And we don't see much of those players here in the forums judging by
WC ("Is there maint. tonight?" -- "WTF!? Dull Claw is now 1 coin? Is that a glitch?!" --
"Any1 know, is there maint. tonight?" . . . you get my drift).

It seems everyone now is majorly into speed & glitz. My mode & memories of playing PWI is like the
horse-and-buggy days, slow & leisurely, enjoying the ride along the way.
But that's gone, replaced by sleek, fast, get-me-from-here-to-there NOW! mentality.

With the fast lvl'ing, a player will get to 40 in a day or two, just by regular
play, so the dq nerf will not impact them greatly, no matter what they say. You usually
wear gear dropped by mobs or given as quest rewards until lvl 30-40 anyway.

Do I like it? No. But I also don't like most of the changes I see happening
in the rl world around me. But things do change, time moves on whether we like
it or not. I had hopes for awhile that somehow the "old" PWI could somehow come
back. But it won't. I see that now. Face it--the majority of players now DO NOT
WANT THE OLD PWI BACK. They want fast leveling & everything free & easy. Witness
the posts qq'ing about the new afk exp not being good enuf. lol

And for ppl who may say the game is dying, there are no new players in starter
zones, etc., ppl have been saying this very same thing with every change since I
started playing. And the game is still here, and honestly? it appears to be
thriving from the numbers of players I see. I think the new players (whether alts
or brand-new) are there, just in different places apparently, because I've never seen
more activity than I have lately in Archo.

I've finally accepted it. PWI will never again be what it was when I started.
Because it must cater to the desires of the majority of players now, which is
make-it-fast, make-it-easy. (BTW, I've noticed they've made a lot of the mobs in
the sub-lvl-40 areas at least, non-aggressive. I was playing a low-level alt, and
was avoiding Torgins & Devilroots, whatever, when I noticed it wasn't necessary.
They aren't aggressive anymore. Walk right up to a Tauroc Slave, or an Ossien
Merchant--he'll ignore you, lol.)

At least I have some very good memories from my early days playing PWI. I have
to thank them for that.

Jeremied - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:cry I hope this get's changed back. I refuse to Frost my alts and this complete nerf is just ridiculous.

EDIT: After logging in, I found that the increase in coin drops is much more than I thought it would be. It offsets the DQ item nerf.
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Only the DQ21 and DQ31 items were nerfed. DQ41 was supposedly nerfed, but I checked in game and their npc price was normal.

All other DQ items have not had their prices changed.

Actually log in before you judge. The increase in coin drops from killing normal mobs DOES seem significant and I think it really lessens the blow for the DQ item nerf.

A lot of people in pw complain and qq before even trying the new patches. The amount of coins you get for doing quests also incresed (for humans, untamaned, and elves). So if a lowbie wants coins, he just has to quests.