LV 101 morai HA armour+axes vs TT99

Ginrai - Heavens Tear
Ginrai - Heavens Tear Posts: 17 Arc User
edited August 2012 in General Discussion
So before I go do something crazy, just wondering what people's experiences are who already have the full set of lv 101 morai HA from Shroud. Currently on my barb I have the 4 pieces of TT99 HA and an OHT helm with nice mods (all +5 with immac citrines) - and considering throwing these away to get the lv 101 morai HA set. Is it really significantly better, or is the difference so negligable that if I've already got TT99 then it isn't worth me swapping now?

I don't care about PVP (I figure anyone who is going to start a fight is doing so because they have significantly better gear than I do, in which case I'm toast either way lol) or -int because will never put fists/claws on my barb. So that's why the morai set looks attractive :)

And same question on the axes - currently have TT100 poleaxe +7, should I ditch this in favour for the lv 101 lumi axes?

All that rather applies to my seeker too but she's a new char so doesn't have an existing TT99 set, so its a bit of an easier decision that way.

Many thanks =)
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  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Base stat-wise, Morai 101 is identical to TT99 (well slightly lower numbers on the armor than TT99, but not a significant difference). However they refine significantly better. You'll have a lot more hp by refining Morai 101 than TT99.

    101 axes end up approximately the same as TT100 in base damage after refining (TT has better base stats, Morai refines better).

    Of course if you don't do PVP at all, the Morai adds are much much better than TT.

    As to whether you should bother with it if you already have TT99? Probably not. 32m for the armor set and 17m for the axes. As well as the cost of refining it all over again. Might as well put that money towards vana gear instead.

    But yeah if you didn't have TT already, Morai is quite superior. I've been very happy with my HA set's performance.
  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    For PVE the level 101 gear is way above and beyond TT99. If the PW Database is right the level 101 gives a combined amount of 43 Warding levels, that's the PVE equivalent of having 21 and a half Jades of steady defenses sharded in your gear.
    Then the weapon has a set +60 Slaying levels. Which if you're familiar with how damage is done, a lot better than having jones + 60 attack levels. Jones + 60 slaying levels will do considerably a lot more damage. I would even dare to say that an Arma crit on mobs with that weapon + jones would be close to R9 damage minus the Zerk damage.
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  • Oo_Spud_oO - Sanctuary
    Oo_Spud_oO - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I am a seeker with full Morai gear and swords, its great gear and I would definately go Morai on your seeker, as for your barb maybe worth getting the Axes, you would have to compare them against the damage your axes do now, just add 53% more damage on the morai axes and see if its worth it.

    I am also going it on my cleric as he has rank 90 gear, used the pw calc and I get better magic attack on the full Morai set than what I get now, I need that def.
  • Ruibek - Lost City
    Ruibek - Lost City Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Oo_Spud_oO - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I am also going it on my cleric as he has rank 90 gear, used the pw calc and I get better magic attack on the full Morai set than what I get now, I need that def.

    Word of advise, do not go Morai weapon on your cleric. Gearwise, I agree with everybody else on this thread, I did my own math and Morai stuff works great, but keep in mind, Attack, Defense, Slaying and Warding levels do not affect heals.

    So, keep a spare HH 90 or 99ish weapon (Or better if you can afford it) on your cleric at all times to swap when it is time to heal people or do an instance where you are expected to keep your squad alive.

    Other than that, Morai is the new black!
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  • Oo_Spud_oO - Sanctuary
    Oo_Spud_oO - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Hi

    I got the TT99 weapon that I will be using for healing, the morai weapon will be for soloing, I should have mentioned that but heck i'm senile b:chuckle
  • Ruibek - Lost City
    Ruibek - Lost City Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Oo_Spud_oO - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hi

    I got the TT99 weapon that I will be using for healing, the morai weapon will be for soloing, I should have mentioned that but heck i'm senile b:chuckle

    Then good for you! I am working on my Corona Bow and Daggers! Also, better a person that investigates but forgets to post it than one that posts everything they investigate but does not include stuff like this on their investigation.

    I actually carry at least 3 weapons on me at all times, to switch depending on the situation, R8 dags for AoE, 1st cast NV for one vs one-to-5 fights, and the gold HH 80 bow, so weapon switching is a great idea.

    And meh, you are not the only senile here, welcome to the club.
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  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Morai 101 magic sword has the same base stats as TT99 magic sword, with better refines. So if you're using TT90 or 99 for healing, you're actually healing *less* than the Morai.

    You'd need Vana or rank gear to heal more.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Morai 101 magic sword has the same base stats as TT99 magic sword, with better refines. So if you're using TT90 or 99 for healing, you're actually healing *less* than the Morai.

    You'd need Vana or rank gear to heal more.

    Problem is that majority of clerics who use Morai are using the free G12 version.
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  • AshenSkies - Heavens Tear
    AshenSkies - Heavens Tear Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Problem is that majority of clerics who use Morai are using the free G12 version.

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    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Keeping 2 weapons would be crazy anyway. Focus on one for better heals / bang for the buck even if you go Morai. Even with Sage IH and G15 +10 (TT Nirv); I still would like stronger heals. Morai is dead end weapon for cleric/ mystic, subpar for heals and not trade-able or even account stash-able. Not totally fail, but not a wise choice unless you're a very casual player with only 1 toon that will be gone in a year.
  • Ginrai - Heavens Tear
    Ginrai - Heavens Tear Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    For PVE the level 101 gear is way above and beyond TT99. If the PW Database is right the level 101 gives a combined amount of 43 Warding levels, that's the PVE equivalent of having 21 and a half Jades of steady defenses sharded in your gear.
    Then the weapon has a set +60 Slaying levels.
    Yeah, my fac ldr pointed out yesterday that pwcalc has been very recently updated to include all the morai gear. So I stuck in my barb's current gear... then stuck in how I would improve his TT99 if I kept it (eventually get it all +6 with 4 exclusive cits in) then did the same if I use all the lv 101 morai gear. HP and mdef came out just about the same either way.. pdef a little less with morai but not significantly.. but then you throw in the 30-40 warding level on top of that, that has to make a heck of a difference.

    Anyway tyvm everyone for your input + posts on this :)

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